CDR's, a Duo and Wierd Problems.. Need Help

[Golgo13]

Ok, guys, I know this is a bit scandalous to bring up maybe.  But I have this weird issue with burning CDR backups and playing them on my Duo.

Most games, it works just fine, I use alcohol 120% and burn at around 10x speed and I play it on my Duo.

But some games, have weird issues, even though I burn them exactly the same way as the working ones, not only that, I test them on Daemon Tools and mount the image that way, trying them out on Magic Engine and they work fine, but on the Duo they dont.

The particular one I am having trouble with, that I really want to play on my duo and not Magic Engine, is the translated hack of Xak III, this one I burned on a disc, and it starts up fine but freezes at the first game screen after startup, I pop the same disk in magic engine and it does not freeze in that spot, and seems to work fine.

Im just wondering if any of you have had similar luck with these things, what gets me is that its really hit or miss, some games work fine, some work only in magic engine mounted in daemon tools, some the cdr works in Magic Engine but not on the Duo.  I really just wonder why the inconsistency and if there is anything I can do to fix these issues, particularly with Xak III because its really awesome to play the English Translation on the Duo.

[Necromancer]

Sounds like you have some shitty rips.  Compare your cue sheet to the TOCs at Necstasy; if they don't match, then try running 'em through TOCFixer (found in their tutorials).

[Golgo13]

Mostly, its sound issues with the games, no music where there should be music, in Xak it has this and the freezing problem, whereas others don't freeze they just have sound and or music issues.

Have any of you been able to get the translation hack of Xak III working on a real Duo?

I checked a few like you said Necro and they seem to match up ok.  So do you have any other ideas what it could be?

[geise]

It's a very good idea to stay far away from iso/mp3/ogg/ whatever.  They tend to have crazy issues.  Even the toc fixer doesn't fix them completely.  The best bet if you still want to use cdr's is to find 1:1 copies.  This is a lot harder, but there's plenty of japanese p2p programs that have loads of clone cd versions and bin/cue.  I know for a fact that Nightwolv's Xak III translation wants a bin/cue format from an original pressed cd.  It's the same as with the Ys 4 translation he did.  It would only work right with a 1:1 copy cd image.  There are some iso/mp3/ogg games that work fine but there are so many bad rips out there making the rounds on r0m sites.  It makes it really hard to get rid of those bad rips.  Find out info of winny and Share and make sure your pc can read japanese font.

[Golgo13]

Thanks for the help, I am going to mess around with the TOC fixer and see if that makes any changes, as for Xak III, would you know why it works fine on magic engine but not as a burned CD on the Duo?

[Necromancer]

Thanks for the help, I am going to mess around with the TOC fixer and see if that makes any changes, as for Xak III, would you know why it works fine on magic engine but not as a burned CD on the Duo?

Magic Engine is very tolerant of shitty rips; real hardware is not.

[Golgo13]

Ok, I tried that TOC fixer, it did not work.  It was identifying the problem games as having bad files, but when it fixed them and I burned it, the 2 games I tried made it to the title screen, with sound working ok, and then froze up after that.

This whole PCE CD backup business is really jacked up sometimes, I just hope I can find a way to get Xak III to work because that one I cant buy.

Thanks for your help necromancer, it is people like you who keep the radical 16 bit graphics flowing in the 2009.

[Tatsujin]

Thanks for the help, I am going to mess around with the TOC fixer and see if that makes any changes, as for Xak III, would you know why it works fine on magic engine but not as a burned CD on the Duo?

Magic Engine is very tolerant of shitty rips; real hardware is not.

it's more that the PC CD-ROM is more tolerant with shitty CDs; real hardware is not (due to the reason of being almost 20 years old and not made for that newstyle shit anymore).

[DragonmasterDan]

it's more that the PC CD-ROM is more tolerant with shitty CDs; real hardware is not (due to the reason of being almost 20 years old and not made for that newstyle shit anymore).

I don't know, I think it might just be the condition of the Duo laser itself.

I had a Duo (and if you look at my history a failed attempt to replace the laser assembly) that wouldn't read CDRs music or otherwise to save its life.

Any glass mastered discs I put in read fine.

I have since replaced it with a new(used) Duo. This one has read every backup and music CDR I've put in without a hitch. It could just be the condition and wear and tear on the laser.

[Golgo13]

I don't think that is the issue with mine, because it does read CDRs, but certain games have problems, either sound or lockups, so that leads me to believe necromancers opinion regarding the shitty rips, this is most likely the case, can anyone recommend a Japanese P2P program were I can track down the good rips? It's called Winny right?

[jperryss]

Sounds like a bad rip maybe, but try using ImgBurn to burn it. I use this for all of my images and have never had issues.

http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download