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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #885 on: October 12, 2009, 09:50:22 PM »
French is good for you ;)
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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #886 on: October 12, 2009, 09:56:03 PM »
Hi,

I speak English, which is the best language.  I do not benefit from inferior, non-English web pages.

Bye!

If its the best language, why are all the best games Japanese based?
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« Reply #889 on: October 13, 2009, 05:10:47 AM »
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If its the best language, why are all the best games Japanese based?

Ha ha they sure aren't any more.  My, how Japan has fallen in game development.  Anyway, Japanese students are forced to take English in school because it is the best language.

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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #890 on: October 13, 2009, 06:36:52 AM »
Bump

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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #891 on: October 13, 2009, 07:00:22 AM »
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If its the best language, why are all the best games Japanese based?

Ha ha they sure aren't any more.  My, how Japan has fallen in game development.  Anyway, Japanese students are forced to take English in school because it is the best language.

Oh and you're saying English games are better?

like what? ROCK BAND AND HAYLO?   Saying next gen English based games are the best isn't saying much really.  Most next gen games are worthless, unless you count PSP/DS, in which case the Japanese stuff is the only good stuff.

lol.

I think they're forced to take it so Japan is properly equipped to deal with this mess called 'Merica
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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #892 on: October 13, 2009, 09:16:30 AM »
There are too many things to list, but other than a few reasonable people, those who didn't just say that "everything other than SNES sux -end of discussion" and literally exited the discussion, the rest have such misguided understandings of hardware and how games work that incorrect arguments are replied to with equally incorrect ones and it just snowballs.

I'm pretty sure someone said that it's only fair to compare Mode 7 effects to effects on Mega Drive only in cases where the SNES looks better. :P In general, the die hard SNES fans seem to think that the SNES is capable of any kind of scaling and rotation (Galaxy Force 2 was used an example of what only the SNES could do).

Guyome seems to think that ram = power and that it was the power to render larger sprites and such, not simply additional frames of animation that select Saturn games required a ram cart for.

I like how shubibiman called Guyome on the classic "transparencies only count when they're rendered by hardware" aka "I only count the stuff that makes my favorite console/game/etc look best".

Under 'Genesis pros', it looks like Joel ARRAULT basically said: "It has the arcade feel". Just awesome. 8) He also literally called Guyome on the above mentioned cliche: "In fact the thing with you is that you speak only what suits you at a time "t", possibly obscuring everything else." :clap:

Someone should mention that the SuperGrafx Axelay demo includes several additional PCE roms that do the same effect. That Axelay demo could be reproduced identical on PC Engine with the criss-crossed bars merged onto the other layer or possibly appearing to be double layered using animated tiles.

I think that the fact that the topic was "THE SNES game impossible to reproduce on Megadrive" and not "SNES & MD games impossible to reproduce on the other" sums up the intended bias.
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Re: PCE, SNES and Genesis, screen comparison.
« Reply #893 on: October 13, 2009, 10:26:19 AM »
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Oh and you're saying English games are better?

like what? ROCK BAND AND HAYLO?  

Nonono, like Burnout Paradise, Uncharted and the like.  I only have a couple of Japanese-developed games for this generation and I'll be damned if I can remember what they are.

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I think they're forced to take [English] so Japan is properly equipped to deal with this mess called 'Merica

Because we're a force to be reckoned with!  You can't exist in the world without dealing with America!  Anyway since I am not Canadian I cannot read those forums.  Am I the only PCEFX forum member who cannot understand French?  Spanish will soon be America's main language.

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« Reply #894 on: October 13, 2009, 12:47:57 PM »
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Oh and you're saying English games are better?

like what? ROCK BAND AND HAYLO?   Saying next gen English based games are the best isn't saying much really.  Most next gen games are worthless, unless you count PSP/DS, in which case the Japanese stuff is the only good stuff.

I think his point was that 15 years ago if you asked anyone what their favorite game was, they would pretty much only answer with something that was Japanese unless it was Madden or a licensed game (and many of the licensed games were also Japanese). Now this is certainly not the case. American games used to be a total f*cking joke...a joke that wasn't even funny. I can't think of one NES-era American game that was good, and I can name very few SNES-era ones. There are only a couple of US developed TG-16 games, and they are shit. But now US games are much better, and innovation/charm/sales in Japan has dropped off big-time. The big titles in America are Rock Band, Halo, and GTA whereas they used to be Mario, Sonic, Tekken, Ridge Racer, etc. Now even people in Japan are buying crap like GTA and everyone hates Sonic. Mario games, for some reason, only come out every 5 years or so now.

I don't personally care for much of anything being made these days, certainly not on consoles, but the sad fact is that western developers are at the forefront of the industry, sales-wise, and I can't think of much coming from Japan that I'd recommend as an alternative.

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« Reply #895 on: October 13, 2009, 02:04:40 PM »
Yeah I know, im just bustin his balls.

I personally, and no offense to anyone who is French, cant stand the way it sounds. 

As for modern games, ... bah.    They all suck half the time anymore.  Its always a 50/50 chance anymore.  Uncharted sure did kick ass though.

Hell look at the Wii, in 1995 if anyone said "in 15 years Nintendo's going to have the most worthless game library on the most overrated console ever", people would've slapped the crap out of em.

At least its FINALLY getting past the stupid Wii mote gimmick stage, and real games are appearing.  Boy and His Blob rules.
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« Reply #896 on: October 13, 2009, 03:48:00 PM »
Bustin' my balls is OK and appreciated!

I just think it is interesting how game development has changed.  Japan hasn't offered much recently, though I am impressed with Ninja Gaiden 2 on the PS3.  I wish they would offer more stuff as they usually provide a simpler and more direct approach to gaming.

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« Reply #897 on: October 13, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
Bustin' my balls is OK and appreciated!

I just think it is interesting how game development has changed.  Japan hasn't offered much recently, though I am impressed with Ninja Gaiden 2 on the PS3.  I wish they would offer more stuff as they usually provide a simpler and more direct approach to gaming.

simpler and more direct = WII

wii do not want to play.

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« Reply #898 on: October 13, 2009, 07:28:17 PM »
There are only a couple of US developed TG-16 games, and they are shit.

Yeah, like Beyond Shadowgate, It Came From the Desert, Order of the Griffon, and Camp California:roll:
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« Reply #899 on: October 13, 2009, 07:44:01 PM »
There are only a couple of US developed TG-16 games, and they are shit.

Yeah, like Beyond Shadowgate, It Came From the Desert, Order of the Griffon, and Camp California:roll:


order of the griffon is so excellent.  Its got all the PC goldbox flair without all the crapass load times and manual referencing
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