Author Topic: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK  (Read 1622 times)

esteban

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24063
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 04:48:33 AM »
This is the item I am intrigued by:

"The complete pc engine guide book" by Richard Gibbs

Very interesting...
  |    | 

LMS

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 85
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2009, 06:45:12 AM »
I'll get some scans up of the richard gibbs book if I get time. not all the reviews but some of teh stuff at he beginning.

esteban

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24063
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 02:31:24 AM »
I'll get some scans up of the richard gibbs book if I get time. not all the reviews but some of teh stuff at he beginning.
[/quote

Rock on. :)

Thanks in advance.
  |    | 

futurematt

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 71
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2010, 04:54:24 AM »
OK guys, this topic needs dusting off. It' sunny in London right now, I have a headache from internet authoring so I'm gonna sit back and recount some hardcore PC engine memories from the 80s and 90s.
I consider myself 'Generation Engine' as I was about 15 1/2 when the Engine was first talked about on these shores. C&VG was the first mag I came across that featured it - a 2 page spread if I remember. The reviews posted elsewhere on this thread, are also familiar.
There were at least 3 kids in our school who had bought one - two got them direct from HK through a Chinese guy called 'Chi' at school. One other had ordered his from PC Engine Supplies. He turned out to be a very good and long term friend of mine- PC engine was the catalyst.
Anyway, for some reason I decided to mail order a PC Engine - with my good parent blessing and sponsorship :oops: from Mention Technical Services. It was a little bit more expensive (about £200?) but it seemed a bigger company. I think they were based in the Scottish borders.
The thing arrived - with Vigilante, Dungeon Explorer, Tails of the Monster Path (a free game!) and Galaga '88. I think it was a 4 HuCard deal or something.. The four still remain in my collection. With the White Engine came the ubiquotous Colour Booster, which as you probably all know, screws up a lot of the colours and puts out greens instead of pinks etc....anyway flesh never looked very good and it started to bum me out, especially as my mate's one from PC Engine supplied worked fine on PAL as it had been modded.
So I ended up sending mine away to - guess who - Console Concepts - to repair....and the f****rs went bust, taking my PC Engine with them. I never saw it again..! :roll:  Another annoying thing was I threw away the box etc - what a berk! I was only 16 and boxes didn't seem worth keeping.
So, a little later, with my games and hobby intact, I managed to convince my - very annoyed - parents to buy a Core Grafx from some other supplier - I forget who - and it arrived, unmodded. I used the AV out for video signal but things were still far from perfect - after about 10 minutes of play, the screen would flash pink-red intermitently, due I think to the heat, as blowing across the vents seemed to ease it off. Not great when you're in the middle of a Formation Soccer match though....Anyway I could still use the AV booster for stereo sound, which was the best part about that ugly beast. It has since been thrown away - I should have kept it cos its still a dinky little add on . Never mind.
Anyway, my collection grew between 88 and 90 - and I amassed about 35 games. By the time the CDROM was brought out I (a) didn't have the money to get it (b) convinced myself it was a draft gimmick and (c) was getting more into rather less healthy persuits than gaming, or should i say the typical adolescent guy things.... anyway the collection reached its peak, with a couple of purchases from Computer Exchange on Whitfield Street ( I am intrigued by the other London shops mentioned here - now I think about it though I do remember vaguely something in the Middle of Tottenham Court Road!!) and then the hobby lay dormant. But before I skip to the 'Second Coming' I will give a couple of prices I paid - £40 for Don Doko Don (worth less now!!) and £30 for Outrun (ditto!!). The very last game I bought in that era was an unboxed version of Barunba for about £12 and it has stopped working since. Games were expensive cos we only had a few importers to buy them from. Talking about HuCard failures I have only ever had two but a couple are known to still be 'awkward' and take a few boots!
OK, well before I get to the return of the Engine, I will also say that I had an XE1-PC joystick, and a 5 way etc etc. This is important cos my first foray into buying new stuff for the engine, was after a ten year hiatus and on my return to London in about 1999 to work. There I found Computer Exchange, shortly to move to its current location of Rathbone Place, and its amazing little retro museum, which also went with it (for the first couple of years anyway, before they went mainstream...!)
An in CE I bought a XE1-PC Pro - still the best joystick for the engine IMO. Recently I picked another up - new and boxed this time!
As I didn't know about ebay then - one guy in my office was trading on it, but it meant nothing to me - I bought a few games from CE as well as starting my Sega Dreamcast and Saturn collections (but largely on ebay by that time).
I found a number of CHEAP! HuCards in CEX - Final Blaster £20, for example, but they also had some very expensive ones - I remember seeing Super Star Soldier there for £60 for like a whole year!! And of course, I didn't even LOOK at the Super CD ROMs!! What an idiot! I have in my head the idea that they were selling like Sylphia for £50, or Spriggan for a tenner. Was that the case???!!
Anyway, my collection grew at the tail end of the 90s into about 50 Hueys, and has since grown only a little more to about 70. I prefer shooters and some platformers / RPGs but nothing like the whole set. And anyway I have Magic Engine and HuE for the PSP to play anything!
Pulling this rather long story back into present day, to conclude, I was looking at stuff on the net and discovered Nexzr. I thought - sh*t that shooter looks good - and did a bit more research into the Super CD Rom setup. I ended up getting a boxed IFU-30 with SCDROM for about £85 off ebay, which I was very pleased about. CD drive is sketchy though. Since then I have built up a collection of about 20 of the 'must have shmups' for the system - Spriggan 1&2, Psychic Storm etc etc.....and recently acquired a boxed GT, then a boxed LT, then a Super CD ROM 2.

I'm really impressed by all the PCE resources on line - this being a PRIME example - just love the hardware compatibility chart for example! And the Bible PCE Daisuken etc etc ..... and You Tube of course, where I now have a channel (see link!) and have met some awesome PCE gamers like Dankss, Nectarsis, PhatPhunk, Lorfarius, the list goes on and on.....

Retro love people.
Systems: PCE white, Core Grafx, CD Rom2 / IFU30, GT, LT, Super CD Rom2. Games: Almost all the shooters and about 50 others and growing! Also into Sega Saturn and Dreamcast shooters.
For HD gaming stuff visit my You Tube channel "Ten Minute Turbo Show" at www.youtube.com/futurematt5

shubibiman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1832
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 05:50:18 AM »
Quote
Computer Exchange on Whitfield Street

When was that? When I worked in London (I'm French and spent the summer of 1998 there), I often went to that place that i discovered by chance, when I was walking around near Oxford Street or something like that. If I remember well, it was not far from the BT Tower. I kept a bag of that shop and I think I still have it.

It wouldn't be too surprising thayt they sold Sylphias for 50£ as all the PC Engine games they sold were like 40 to 50£, no more, no less. At the time, it was quite difficult to get games from the internet so guies like me were ready to pay that much for games they really wanted (I bought Gulliver Boy, Garnzort and Legend Of Xanadu, that I discovered at the shop thanks to the guy who worked there). So the price were high but when you look at it now, the ones who got their copies of Sylphia in that shop for 50£ turned out to be the lucky one.

Man, I can't believe it was 12 years ago. I spent so much time in that shop talking to the salesman that he once invited me at the pub. That was cool.
Self proclamed Aldynes World Champion

imparanoic

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 297
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2010, 05:46:49 PM »
i had a ok collection of pc engine games, even had coryoon (paid 35quid at telegames in leicester), pc engine was/is a expensive hobby as it was only imported in Uk via  unofficial means, pc engine supplies/console concepts had a good collection for games in the midlands ( based in stoke on trent), but i lost my collection ( lent to a friend, he moved away), now i have rebuilt my collection again and moved to Hong Kong, most pc engine stuff are cheaper in Hong Kong.

Otaking

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2288
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2010, 01:29:40 PM »
OK guys, this topic needs dusting off. It' sunny in London right now, I have a headache from internet authoring so I'm gonna sit back and recount some hardcore PC engine memories from the 80s and 90s.
I consider myself 'Generation Engine' as I was about 15 1/2 when the Engine was first talked about on these shores. C&VG was the first mag I came across that featured it - a 2 page spread if I remember. The reviews posted elsewhere on this thread, are also familiar.
There were at least 3 kids in our school who had bought one - two got them direct from HK through a Chinese guy called 'Chi' at school. One other had ordered his from PC Engine Supplies. He turned out to be a very good and long term friend of mine- PC engine was the catalyst.
Anyway, for some reason I decided to mail order a PC Engine - with my good parent blessing and sponsorship :oops: from Mention Technical Services. It was a little bit more expensive (about £200?) but it seemed a bigger company. I think they were based in the Scottish borders.
The thing arrived - with Vigilante, Dungeon Explorer, Tails of the Monster Path (a free game!) and Galaga '88. I think it was a 4 HuCard deal or something.. The four still remain in my collection. With the White Engine came the ubiquotous Colour Booster, which as you probably all know, screws up a lot of the colours and puts out greens instead of pinks etc....anyway flesh never looked very good and it started to bum me out, especially as my mate's one from PC Engine supplied worked fine on PAL as it had been modded.
So I ended up sending mine away to - guess who - Console Concepts - to repair....and the f****rs went bust, taking my PC Engine with them. I never saw it again..! :roll:  Another annoying thing was I threw away the box etc - what a berk! I was only 16 and boxes didn't seem worth keeping.
So, a little later, with my games and hobby intact, I managed to convince my - very annoyed - parents to buy a Core Grafx from some other supplier - I forget who - and it arrived, unmodded. I used the AV out for video signal but things were still far from perfect - after about 10 minutes of play, the screen would flash pink-red intermitently, due I think to the heat, as blowing across the vents seemed to ease it off. Not great when you're in the middle of a Formation Soccer match though....Anyway I could still use the AV booster for stereo sound, which was the best part about that ugly beast. It has since been thrown away - I should have kept it cos its still a dinky little add on . Never mind.
Anyway, my collection grew between 88 and 90 - and I amassed about 35 games. By the time the CDROM was brought out I (a) didn't have the money to get it (b) convinced myself it was a draft gimmick and (c) was getting more into rather less healthy persuits than gaming, or should i say the typical adolescent guy things.... anyway the collection reached its peak, with a couple of purchases from Computer Exchange on Whitfield Street ( I am intrigued by the other London shops mentioned here - now I think about it though I do remember vaguely something in the Middle of Tottenham Court Road!!) and then the hobby lay dormant. But before I skip to the 'Second Coming' I will give a couple of prices I paid - £40 for Don Doko Don (worth less now!!) and £30 for Outrun (ditto!!). The very last game I bought in that era was an unboxed version of Barunba for about £12 and it has stopped working since. Games were expensive cos we only had a few importers to buy them from. Talking about HuCard failures I have only ever had two but a couple are known to still be 'awkward' and take a few boots!
OK, well before I get to the return of the Engine, I will also say that I had an XE1-PC joystick, and a 5 way etc etc. This is important cos my first foray into buying new stuff for the engine, was after a ten year hiatus and on my return to London in about 1999 to work. There I found Computer Exchange, shortly to move to its current location of Rathbone Place, and its amazing little retro museum, which also went with it (for the first couple of years anyway, before they went mainstream...!)
An in CE I bought a XE1-PC Pro - still the best joystick for the engine IMO. Recently I picked another up - new and boxed this time!
As I didn't know about ebay then - one guy in my office was trading on it, but it meant nothing to me - I bought a few games from CE as well as starting my Sega Dreamcast and Saturn collections (but largely on ebay by that time).
I found a number of CHEAP! HuCards in CEX - Final Blaster £20, for example, but they also had some very expensive ones - I remember seeing Super Star Soldier there for £60 for like a whole year!! And of course, I didn't even LOOK at the Super CD ROMs!! What an idiot! I have in my head the idea that they were selling like Sylphia for £50, or Spriggan for a tenner. Was that the case???!!
Anyway, my collection grew at the tail end of the 90s into about 50 Hueys, and has since grown only a little more to about 70. I prefer shooters and some platformers / RPGs but nothing like the whole set. And anyway I have Magic Engine and HuE for the PSP to play anything!
Pulling this rather long story back into present day, to conclude, I was looking at stuff on the net and discovered Nexzr. I thought - sh*t that shooter looks good - and did a bit more research into the Super CD Rom setup. I ended up getting a boxed IFU-30 with SCDROM for about £85 off ebay, which I was very pleased about. CD drive is sketchy though. Since then I have built up a collection of about 20 of the 'must have shmups' for the system - Spriggan 1&2, Psychic Storm etc etc.....and recently acquired a boxed GT, then a boxed LT, then a Super CD ROM 2.

I'm really impressed by all the PCE resources on line - this being a PRIME example - just love the hardware compatibility chart for example! And the Bible PCE Daisuken etc etc ..... and You Tube of course, where I now have a channel (see link!) and have met some awesome PCE gamers like Dankss, Nectarsis, PhatPhunk, Lorfarius, the list goes on and on.....

Retro love people.

interesting read Matt  :D
just sitting up watching up the UK election coverage and switched to Youtube for a bit and watched your new vids, good stuff, cool collection you got.

JAPJAC

  • Guest
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2010, 01:35:08 AM »
JAPJAC`s TFP Fanitsu Capcom Power System CHANGER Definitive Resource is the first extensive and only competent expose in English on-line is here!:

(Under the TFP Features section):

http://www.japjac.proboards.com/
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 05:32:58 AM by JAPJAC »

brightmidnight

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2016, 07:10:05 AM »
OK guys, this topic needs dusting off. It' sunny in London right now, I have a headache from internet authoring so I'm gonna sit back and recount some hardcore PC engine memories from the 80s and 90s.
I consider myself 'Generation Engine' as I was about 15 1/2 when the Engine was first talked about on these shores. C&VG was the first mag I came across that featured it - a 2 page spread if I remember. The reviews posted elsewhere on this thread, are also familiar.
There were at least 3 kids in our school who had bought one - two got them direct from HK through a Chinese guy called 'Chi' at school. One other had ordered his from PC Engine Supplies. He turned out to be a very good and long term friend of mine- PC engine was the catalyst.
Anyway, for some reason I decided to mail order a PC Engine - with my good parent blessing and sponsorship :oops: from Mention Technical Services. It was a little bit more expensive (about £200?) but it seemed a bigger company. I think they were based in the Scottish borders.
The thing arrived - with Vigilante, Dungeon Explorer, Tails of the Monster Path (a free game!) and Galaga '88. I think it was a 4 HuCard deal or something.. The four still remain in my collection. With the White Engine came the ubiquotous Colour Booster, which as you probably all know, screws up a lot of the colours and puts out greens instead of pinks etc....anyway flesh never looked very good and it started to bum me out, especially as my mate's one from PC Engine supplied worked fine on PAL as it had been modded.
So I ended up sending mine away to - guess who - Console Concepts - to repair....and the f****rs went bust, taking my PC Engine with them. I never saw it again..! :roll:  Another annoying thing was I threw away the box etc - what a berk! I was only 16 and boxes didn't seem worth keeping.
So, a little later, with my games and hobby intact, I managed to convince my - very annoyed - parents to buy a Core Grafx from some other supplier - I forget who - and it arrived, unmodded. I used the AV out for video signal but things were still far from perfect - after about 10 minutes of play, the screen would flash pink-red intermitently, due I think to the heat, as blowing across the vents seemed to ease it off. Not great when you're in the middle of a Formation Soccer match though....Anyway I could still use the AV booster for stereo sound, which was the best part about that ugly beast. It has since been thrown away - I should have kept it cos its still a dinky little add on . Never mind.
Anyway, my collection grew between 88 and 90 - and I amassed about 35 games. By the time the CDROM was brought out I (a) didn't have the money to get it (b) convinced myself it was a draft gimmick and (c) was getting more into rather less healthy persuits than gaming, or should i say the typical adolescent guy things.... anyway the collection reached its peak, with a couple of purchases from Computer Exchange on Whitfield Street ( I am intrigued by the other London shops mentioned here - now I think about it though I do remember vaguely something in the Middle of Tottenham Court Road!!) and then the hobby lay dormant. But before I skip to the 'Second Coming' I will give a couple of prices I paid - £40 for Don Doko Don (worth less now!!) and £30 for Outrun (ditto!!). The very last game I bought in that era was an unboxed version of Barunba for about £12 and it has stopped working since. Games were expensive cos we only had a few importers to buy them from. Talking about HuCard failures I have only ever had two but a couple are known to still be 'awkward' and take a few boots!
OK, well before I get to the return of the Engine, I will also say that I had an XE1-PC joystick, and a 5 way etc etc. This is important cos my first foray into buying new stuff for the engine, was after a ten year hiatus and on my return to London in about 1999 to work. There I found Computer Exchange, shortly to move to its current location of Rathbone Place, and its amazing little retro museum, which also went with it (for the first couple of years anyway, before they went mainstream...!)
An in CE I bought a XE1-PC Pro - still the best joystick for the engine IMO. Recently I picked another up - new and boxed this time!
As I didn't know about ebay then - one guy in my office was trading on it, but it meant nothing to me - I bought a few games from CE as well as starting my Sega Dreamcast and Saturn collections (but largely on ebay by that time).
I found a number of CHEAP! HuCards in CEX - Final Blaster £20, for example, but they also had some very expensive ones - I remember seeing Super Star Soldier there for £60 for like a whole year!! And of course, I didn't even LOOK at the Super CD ROMs!! What an idiot! I have in my head the idea that they were selling like Sylphia for £50, or Spriggan for a tenner. Was that the case???!!
Anyway, my collection grew at the tail end of the 90s into about 50 Hueys, and has since grown only a little more to about 70. I prefer shooters and some platformers / RPGs but nothing like the whole set. And anyway I have Magic Engine and HuE for the PSP to play anything!
Pulling this rather long story back into present day, to conclude, I was looking at stuff on the net and discovered Nexzr. I thought - sh*t that shooter looks good - and did a bit more research into the Super CD Rom setup. I ended up getting a boxed IFU-30 with SCDROM for about £85 off ebay, which I was very pleased about. CD drive is sketchy though. Since then I have built up a collection of about 20 of the 'must have shmups' for the system - Spriggan 1&2, Psychic Storm etc etc.....and recently acquired a boxed GT, then a boxed LT, then a Super CD ROM 2.

I'm really impressed by all the PCE resources on line - this being a PRIME example - just love the hardware compatibility chart for example! And the Bible PCE Daisuken etc etc ..... and You Tube of course, where I now have a channel (see link!) and have met some awesome PCE gamers like Dankss, Nectarsis, PhatPhunk, Lorfarius, the list goes on and on.....

Retro love people.

Matt, your channel is awesome. Please make more videos again! I have a fairly similar PC Engine background to those shared in this thread. I got introduced to the scene back in the late 80's by a good friend who's now a game designer. In the very early days of the UK grey import scene there was a notorious outfit called PC Engine Services, run by two crooks who sold shoddily modified systems with the dodgy colour booster. They ended up serving jail time for their fraudulent activities if I recall correctly, as they ripped off a lot of people before going bust. I think that might be the company you got yours from, as PC Engine Supplies were a great outfit that later became Console Concepts and carried on well into the 90's. I believe Colin Diamond was the person behind Console Concepts and he was a really top guy. I bought many of my import games from them back in those days, along with the other companies mentioned in this thread, like Raven Games, Telegames, Rhine Games and Shekhana. I used to go to Shekhana's shop on Tottenham Court Road all the time before I discovered Advance Console Entertainment, or ACE. I spent many, many hours hanging out at ACE through the 90's and early 2000's and got very friendly with Nick and Dimitry who ran the place. Not the cheapest shop, but then none of those places were cheap back then. Import gaming really was a hardcore pursuit and a very expensive hobby. Raven Games in Beckenham was a cool shop too and was one of the first physical import shops in the UK dating back to 1988, the year I started collecting. Tony who ran Raven Games was another top guy. Amazingly, the shop still existed until fairly recently, but sadly I think it's closed down now as their website has disappeared.

I've only just got really back into gaming over the past few years after a long hiatus from the hobby. It seems to be quite a common story that I hear from other people my age who were also serious hardcore import gamers back in the late 80's and 90's. You reach a certain age and then life has a way of steering you away from the hobby as adolescence gives way to adulthood. But life also has a way of bringing you full circle and back to your roots, which is where my journey has taken me. I was very, very into PC Engine collecting through the early 90's, but unfortunately I gradually drifted away from that scene when I got a Mega Drive and Super Famicom, so my collection didn't grow much after around 1994 until recently when I picked it up again. I have a fairly decent HuCard library, but my CDROM collection is still rather lacking. The prices that some games sell for now is quite breathtaking. The same goes for a lot of the sought after HuCards. I once had two sealed copies of Coryoon that I foolishly sold about 10 years ago when I lost interest in gaming and I'm really kicking myself now. I also sold off my entire Japanese Saturn collection too, but that's another story. Suffice it to say that I'm paying dearly now trying to replace it all!


Speaking of UK fanzines, there was an excellent one back in the 90's called Electric Brain produced by a guy called Onn Lee, who was quite a legend in the UK import scene at the time. They're highly sought after nowadays and seem to change hands for quite a bit on eBay when they pop up. It was produced to a very high standard and was even sold in high street newsagents like WHSmith. The Complete PC Engine Guide Book by Richard Gibbs was also very highly regarded. I still have my copy and I actually tracked down Mr Gibbs recently by sheer luck. He has a YouTube channel by the name of GYRUSS. He said he might make a video some day about the making of his legendary PC Engine guide and I really hope he does.

Retro love indeed! :D
A street-smart fish out of water in a world I never made

Vimtoman

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2016, 02:26:26 AM »
This is the item I am intrigued by:

"The complete pc engine guide book" by Richard Gibbs

Very interesting...


You can find it here. http://www.archives.tg-16.com

I still have one copy which I bought from Richard. The first one died from over use.

Black Tiger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11242
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2016, 03:07:51 AM »
This is the item I am intrigued by:

"The complete pc engine guide book" by Richard Gibbs

Very interesting...


You can find it here. http://www.archives.tg-16.com

I still have one copy which I bought from Richard. The first one died from over use.


What do you think the odds are that he found it during the past seven years? :-k
http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/forum

Active and drama free PC Engine forum

Necromancer

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21369
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2016, 03:47:22 AM »
And on his own site?  :lol:
U.S. Collection: 98% complete    157/161 titles

Vimtoman

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2016, 08:15:05 AM »
Is that his site?

Necromancer

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21369
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2016, 08:36:03 AM »
Yarr, but don't mind the ribbing.  You meant well.  :mrgreen:
U.S. Collection: 98% complete    157/161 titles

Ex_Mosquito

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
Re: Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2016, 09:33:04 AM »
Found this in my Mums attic earlier. It's a flyer from Telegames selling off a couple of bargains! £70 + game for a TG. The Jaguar is pretty cheap too :)