Author Topic: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo  (Read 974 times)

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Re: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 06:16:23 PM »

Don't waste your money on a PAL TG. The games often run slower, the A/V port is unique and incompatible with Turbo/PCE hookups and the only way you can use it to play CD games is to buy a pricey, different colored Turbo-CD, pay for shipping across the world and then fork out a ton for a U.S. Super CD card.

 Actually *ALL* games will run slower (they'll run at 50hz or 16.6% slower). It's not an option. They all will because they are NTSC designed games. Whether the music(chip) slows down or not, that's up to the game because of an external sync option, but everything else is tied directly to the slower refresh rate (gameplay, animation, movement, etc).

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Re: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2009, 06:30:55 PM »
Actually *ALL* games will run slower (they'll run at 50hz or 16.6% slower). It's not an option. They all will because they are NTSC designed games. Whether the music(chip) slows down or not, that's up to the game because of an external sync option, but everything else is tied directly to the slower refresh rate (gameplay, animation, movement, etc).

Well, many run even slower than others. :P
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Re: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2009, 09:19:41 AM »
So far I have only been testing games for a matter of seconds or minutes, mainly to check after doing work on the motherboard that things still work ok, so only seen some of the games in demo mode so far (look fine), like Gradius. Also can't play the games at the moment as the controller is taken apart and not connected.

There have been many posts, some contradictory, about speed difference in real terms between the PAL TurboGrafx and the PCE. Logically, working with a slower clock rate will have an impact on the game speed, however, as was pointed out by someone, the refresh rate is also lower by 20% so therefore the impact may not be too obvious. Hey, I don't know yet, you guys have been playing your systems and know the subject far better than I do, so I am sure the PAL one does work slower, however proof is in the testing. If I find the PAL system runs juttery, I may dive my hands into my pocket again and get a PCE, however, if the PAL system runs perfectly fine, there is no point. My motherboard is trimmed and separated from its case, so which version of the hardware or colour of the box is not important; its how it plays the games.

What I do know, is that when I get the system working properly, I will test each of my 25 or so games I currently have (about 70% are Japanese ones) and let you guys know if I see any slowdowns in the games or not (especially when there are lots of sprites on the screen), and if they are minor or a pain, or not noticable. If the whole game runs slightly slower but without slowdowns, I will be happy with that, because, to be frank, I will do far better in action games than I normally can! :lol:

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Re: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2009, 10:13:00 AM »
play them on your console and compare to an emulator play of them.  best/fastest way to know
[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: Looking for advice on getting started with the TG16/Duo
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2009, 04:50:16 PM »
play them on your console and compare to an emulator play of them.  best/fastest way to know


I got my camera setup to take some quick footage, but something came up, so I can't finish the quick comparison video tonight. I likely won't get to shoot anything tomorrow, so here's the test footage for now-

http://superpcenginegrafx.com/video/palaeroblasters1.avi

Both my video editing programs are giving me problems right now, so I couldn't make it any other size. :?

It'll be much more noticeable in a proper comparison. Now the real music sounds like it's in fast forward to me. :P
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