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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2009, 03:43:04 PM »

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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2009, 10:44:31 PM »
I've noticed a trend of certain games getting glowing recommendations, with little or no explanation as to why. Really the gripe is hearing about how fun or good a game is and never any reason why that person thought so.

Boo-frickin'-hoo!  I guess everyone should write a dissertation complete with in-game videos and historical references, just so your lazy ass isn't disappointed.  If someone recommends a game, there's nothing stopping you from asking for more information or from taking some initiative to check out youtube footage, the PC Engine Bible, VG Den, etc., so don't blame others for your inability to do a bit o' research.  :roll:

They're f*cking video games, for chrissakes!  You didn't like the game, eh?  Then throw the cdr away, move on to some other game, and shut your whine hole.  Besides, your negative review of Pop 'N Magic is equally non-descriptive.  You complain of "severely lacking game play", but never explain why.  Were the controls stiff?  Was the hit detection poor?  Who knows - you only say that it was "overly simplistic", whatever the hell that means.  You go on to complain about the cut scenes, but your inability to understand Japanese is not the game's fault.  The only meaningful complaint put forward is the difficultly level, yet you obviously haven't played enough of the game to provide an informed opinion.

Woah man, time out! Why all the angst? Why all the anger? I simply stated my opinion on Pop N' Magic, stated I don't understand why so many like certain games, and asked for a little more in depth reasons why people like it. I seriously don't see the need to cop such a condescending attitude, if anything you are further derailing the thread that was starting to actually get back on track. I don't think anything I said called for such a harsh tone or such language, and I would suggest taking a deep breath and calming down. Nothing good ever comes from such posts, and the intent is almost never good. Let's keep the discussion friendly and lively, no need to get all uppity. After all, as you yourself said, they are just games.  :wink:

Back on topic, Pop N' Magic is not a horrible game by any means. Long cut scenes aside, the concept and basic idea are just fine, trap enemies in bubbles grab the bubbles and fling them into other enemies trapped in bubbles to clear the stage, similar to bubble bobble. The problem is with the lacking challenge it goes a little to quickly, and there is much less emphasis on quick strategic maneuvers, making it seem like a prettier, watered down bubble bobble clone. In other similar games, you needed to be quick to react and be somewhat strategic about how you went about things. Pop N' Magic is a bit sloppy in this regard, you don't really need to think about how or when you do something, so long as you eventually clear the enemies. A lot of the stages are almost gimmies, and require little conscious effort or thought to clear. The visuals and audio are adequate, but again nothing too special. Controls were just fine, perhaps a tad bit slow but nothing horrible. I can see how someone might like it for it's slower paced and laid back style. I wouldn't say it's more simplistic than bubble bobble or similar games, if anything Pop N' Magic is the more complicated of the two if only from a gameplay mechanics standpoint.

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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2009, 02:40:53 AM »
Again Zeon- the game DOES get more challenging and it does get speedier (and as in Parasol Stars- there are speed shoes).  You talk as if you beat it already when you clearly said you turned it off early.  Also there is some thinking involved as you aren't supposed to throw two of the same color bubbles together as they create new monsters- yet you make it all sound so mindless.  As for asking Necro to calm down- I'm sure he's a lot calmer than you think- and it's not like you didn't come onto this thread yourself with this piss and vinegar attitude.  You should read what you write- maybe you'll see how damn whiney it sounds.  Someone was nice enough to burn you a CDR of a game and you come on crying about it- about how bad it is- about how unsatisfactory peoples' descriptions of it are- about how THE CAT WHO WAS NICE ENOUGH TO SEND YOU THE GAME is one of the worst offenders here with bland descriptions- and you're the one who totally derailed the thread- not Necro.  I understand you got a severe bedbug problem- but you should try to brush em' out of your vagina and turn that frown upside down  :P.
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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2009, 05:20:11 AM »
Woah man, time out! Why all the angst? Why all the anger? I simply stated my opinion on Pop N' Magic, stated I don't understand why so many like certain games, and asked for a little more in depth reasons why people like it.

No, you didn't.  You stated that Pop 'N Magic's game play was "severely lacking" (without much by way of explanation), intimated that only easily impressed simpletons could enjoy this title, and then crapped all over Windancer and Nectarsis for wasting your precious time.  I could care less if you like the game or not; at issue was your vitriolic response to others.

I seriously don't see the need to cop such a condescending attitude, if anything you are further derailing the thread that was starting to actually get back on track. I don't think anything I said called for such a harsh tone or such language, and I would suggest taking a deep breath and calming down. Nothing good ever comes from such posts, and the intent is almost never good. Let's keep the discussion friendly and lively, no need to get all uppity. After all, as you yourself said, they are just games.  :wink:

I suggest you go back and reread your own posts, as I was responding in kind.

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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2009, 06:16:59 AM »
Necro, I don't know if it's your lack of sarcasm detection, the fact that most people tend to ignore emoticons, or that you really just love picking a fight when there really isn't a problem, but the majority of the harsh language was used in a sarcastic sense. Notice the use of many such smileys such as:  :P meaning I'm joking or talking in such a manner knowing it might be seen as provoking if I didn't make it clear I wasn't seriously angry or something. The  :roll: which 99% of the time when I or anyone else uses it, it's to imply sarcasm, but not in a demeaning or spiteful way. Sometimes I even put a :P after it (though not in this thread) to make my intent more clear. Also the  :evil: and  :twisted: which again I never use in any sort of provoking way. Call me crazy but I don't think I sat there singling out any member alone, only when responding to a reply in this thread or when it made sense to mention any member to illustrate one of my points.

I was perfectly fine leaving my original posts at that, but I really didn't appreciate your tone or response, which certainly came off as more angry, judgmental, and condescending than ANYTHING I have typed in this thread. This is of course, assuming you pick up on my cues of sarcasm. Please don't think I am being condescending in this reply, I'm really not trying to be. I honestly believe you don't understand the spirit of my posts and I want to make sure we are clear on this. Whereas my snide remarks were merely in jest and certainly not spiteful, your reply certainly seemed that way. At least I can only assume so with only one smiley to help indicate your tone.

Woah man, time out! Why all the angst? Why all the anger? I simply stated my opinion on Pop N' Magic, stated I don't understand why so many like certain games, and asked for a little more in depth reasons why people like it.

No, you didn't.  You stated that Pop 'N Magic's game play was "severely lacking" (without much by way of explanation),

To me this illustrates you completely missed the emoticons and lighthearted jabs at other members. "Severely lacking" is but an opinion and yes, while I did not go fully in depth as to why I thought so, I tried to put a little more reasoning behind my feelings towards this game, than the basic, "it's just fun" I always hear. Keeping in mind that if I was called out on it (which you did, but in quite a rude and snarky way), I was fully prepared to elaborate my views which I finally did in my last response. I wanted to make sure someone was interested before bothering to go into detail about it, before wasting my time on members who didn't care. 

intimated that only easily impressed simpletons could enjoy this title,

Are you referring to this?:

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I am inclined to believe that everyone is either easily impressed by nice looking cut scenes and music, or everyone here but me is part of some crazy ass secret Pop 'N Magic loving cult that I am not privy to. I am beginning to think it's both   Not talking

Again, that was meant to be taken in a jokingly manner, I thought I made it obvious with the mention of a cult, as that seems too unreasonable and far fetched to be taken seriously. I was trying to limit my use of the :P so it didn't get redundant, but I probably should have put another one after the  [-( just to make extra sure no one took it too seriously. I'm terribly sorry you didn't catch it.

and then crapped all over Windancer and Nectarsis for wasting your precious time.  I could care less if you like the game or not; at issue was your vitriolic response to others.

Again, all in a lighthearted jokingly manner. I had no ill intent, nor did I really feel my time was wasted. If anything, I appreciate the time Wind took to burn me a copy to try out. I'm certainly not going to knock the guy for taking the time to make me a copy. Like I said, if anything I am glad he did so, this way it saved me the time of finding my iso and burning it. I don't believe I specifically called nec out on wasting my time, just that he often lets his feelings for a game get the best of him when telling others about them. Nothing wrong about that, both Wind and Nec are just passionate about the games they like.

P.S. - Only a hypocritical tool would bemoan the language of another when their own posts contain vulgarities.

I was only bemoaning it's use in being malicious, (or at least that was my problem with it) of which I certainly did not or had no intentions of using in such a way. Actually, "bitch" and "ass" seem to be the worst word I said, unless I am missing something else while re-reading my posts.

I hope this clears things up. Sorry for yet another derailment guys, this is the last I am going to respond on this matter in this thread. If you still feel the need to continue this discussion further Necro, I invite you to take it to Fighting Street, likely my "Some people are truly special..." thread.

EDIT: Sorry, I missed your post Sin. Like I said, I am more than open to others love for this game, I just wanted a little elaboration, because my initial impressions were not good. I am glad you finally posted some details, and I do appreciate that. I admit, I didn't play very far, (though probably a lot farther than any of the reviewers of games nowadays for publications :lol: :P), and I'm just fine with that. Like before, I just wanted to know why the game was appreciated so. It IS an appreciation thread, I'd think questioning why people appreciate it was well within reason.

I'll admit, I could have gone about wording my posts a LOT better and avoided derailment, and for that I apologize. I tried to interject a bit of humor, but it seems I failed miserably :P In any case I've said all I can really say on this matter. So let's get back on topic shall we?  :D
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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2009, 06:28:45 AM »
"I don't believe I specifically called nec out on wasting my time, just that he often lets his feelings for a game get the best of him when telling others about them."

I'm no reviewer, and I try to find at least SOME good in the games I play (though there are some that just isn't posible for).  "Feelings for a game get the best of me?"  I go by whats fun for me, not spirit counts, paralax, or any other technical merits (everyone here knows I'm DEF not up on the technical jargon anyways :P).  Like sin said..fun is usually hard to describe, if I enjoy a game thats it I ENJOY it.  Just cause YOU seem to find SOOOO many games lacking/redundant/average..doesn't mean I "let games get the best of me" :P
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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2009, 06:29:32 AM »
The first time I saw Rodland on hardcoregaming101 it reminded me of Pop 'N Magic. Although they're not exactly the same, Pop 'N Magic fans might enjoy it.


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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2009, 06:55:21 AM »
"I don't believe I specifically called nec out on wasting my time, just that he often lets his feelings for a game get the best of him when telling others about them."

I'm no reviewer, and I try to find at least SOME good in the games I play (though there are some that just isn't posible for).  "Feelings for a game get the best of me?"  I go by whats fun for me, not spirit counts, paralax, or any other technical merits (everyone here knows I'm DEF not up on the technical jargon anyways :P).  Like sin said..fun is usually hard to describe, if I enjoy a game thats it I ENJOY it.  Just cause YOU seem to find SOOOO many games lacking/redundant/average..doesn't mean I "let games get the best of me" :P

Nothing wrong with being passionate about the games you love nec. What I meant is that when you like a game you LIKE it.  :wink: Meaning you tend to go on about them just a bit more than the average bear. Again nothing wrong with that whatsoever, I'm just stating what I observe.

In any case all this talk of Pop N' is making me seriously contemplating giving it another go...

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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2009, 07:41:13 AM »
Another man's turd is another man's treasure...or something like that. Not everyone enjoys the same games regardless of how good or bad they are. 

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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2009, 11:04:11 AM »
Until last night I had never played this game.  Windancer brought it over and I gave it a go.  It started off a little easy in the beginning but the longer I played it the more fun and challenging it was.  Next thing I knew it was after midnight, my eyes were burning and I was going to be tired at work.  The game is definately fun!  I enjoyed the cut scenes and thought the graphics were nice.  Lots of scrolling in the backgrounds and just little things with the graphics that were pretty cool.  The sound I found enjoyable and the gameplay challenging.  I'm not sure exactly how many levels there are but I can tell you that in 2 player mode Windancer and I got stuck and just couldn't pass the boss we were on.  All in all, I definately will be buying this game in the future!
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2009, 01:00:27 PM »
WINDY (that bastard "worst offender" strikes again) ;)
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2009, 06:39:35 PM »
WINDY (that bastard "worst offender" strikes again) ;)

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2009, 12:58:03 AM »
Until last night I had never played this game.  Windancer brought it over and I gave it a go.  It started off a little easy in the beginning but the longer I played it the more fun and challenging it was.  Next thing I knew it was after midnight, my eyes were burning and I was going to be tired at work. 

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2009, 11:02:58 PM »
Until last night I had never played this game.  Windancer brought it over and I gave it a go.  It started off a little easy in the beginning but the longer I played it the more fun and challenging it was.  Next thing I knew it was after midnight, my eyes were burning and I was going to be tired at work.  The game is definately fun!  I enjoyed the cut scenes and thought the graphics were nice.  Lots of scrolling in the backgrounds and just little things with the graphics that were pretty cool.  The sound I found enjoyable and the gameplay challenging.  I'm not sure exactly how many levels there are but I can tell you that in 2 player mode Windancer and I got stuck and just couldn't pass the boss we were on.  All in all, I definately will be buying this game in the future!

well we thought we'd beat this beast but ended up on a Boss who just would not relent to us :( if anyone has beat this game the boss we got stuck on was a Mech that changes into 2 other mechs. First he shoots his hands out in first mech form. then jumps in as a claw looking machine and shoots lightning. then looks like the evil twin of the first mech. any ideas how far we made it?

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Re: POP 'N MAGIC Appreciation
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2009, 02:56:18 AM »
Until last night I had never played this game.  Windancer brought it over and I gave it a go.  It started off a little easy in the beginning but the longer I played it the more fun and challenging it was.  Next thing I knew it was after midnight, my eyes were burning and I was going to be tired at work.  The game is definately fun!  I enjoyed the cut scenes and thought the graphics were nice.  Lots of scrolling in the backgrounds and just little things with the graphics that were pretty cool.  The sound I found enjoyable and the gameplay challenging.  I'm not sure exactly how many levels there are but I can tell you that in 2 player mode Windancer and I got stuck and just couldn't pass the boss we were on.  All in all, I definately will be buying this game in the future!

well we thought we'd beat this beast but ended up on a Boss who just would not relent to us :( if anyone has beat this game the boss we got stuck on was a Mech that changes into 2 other mechs. First he shoots his hands out in first mech form. then jumps in as a claw looking machine and shoots lightning. then looks like the evil twin of the first mech. any ideas how far we made it?

Man. You guys are havin' all the fun.  :mrgreen:


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