Backing up Duo Games

[Withalligators]

First off, can I talk about this?  I have a nice collection of original games I would like to back up to avoid wear and tear on.  But if this falls under pirating or anything I'll drop it. 

Secondly, I've read you can do a straight disc copy with many programs.  I've tried to back up my copy of Faussete Amour with CloneCD but clone CD just runs endlessly on read without making any progress.  Any advice with this particular disc?  Anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks,
Alex 

[Arkhan]

use CDR Win and rip the CD to bin/cue format, that way its reburnable (at 1x speed to ensure it plays well on the CD system).  Once you have bin/cue, you can just open it in Nero, Alcohol 120 or Disc Juggler and reburn!

thats how I back up games.  Quick and easy.

You might want to buy nice Diamond Silverback CD-Rs to do it on.  Theyre as close to real CDs as they come.  cheapo CDRs (dyed ones like the blue, red and purple bottom ones), are heavy, and cause extra wear and tear on your system itself.

You'll find that there are torrents of PCE CD game collections out there already so you could just grab those too

[Tom]

If you have a PC, there's a utility just for PCE CD games. It's called TurboRip. It will build a CUE/ISO/WAVE set for you to burn with Nero, Alcohol, or whatever supports that format. TurboRip also identifies the CD it's ripping if it's PCE/TG and will label accordingly

[Withalligators]

Thanks guys,
I tried TurboRip but it won't open on my PC.  I click on it and it flashes a DOS looking window for an instant and then disappears.  I don't know why, everyone seems to have no trouble with it except me.  Maybe it's Vista? 

Cancel that.  I opened it using command prompt but can't get it to recognize any cd-rom drives on my computer.  I can't even get to my cd rom drive (f:\) just moving around in prompt.  It would just be cd\f:\ right?  wtf? 

[gekioh]

Aaaeeehehehh holy crap, so the dyed colored back cd-r's are bad for your system/ruin it, this sucks cause up till now thats all ive been using to make backup copies, maybe this is why my TG CD is really acting up now and doesnt seem to read games worth shit anymore, and after I just fixed the ground cable to and saudered it back together too.

[Necromancer]

Thanks guys,
I tried TurboRip but it won't open on my PC.  I click on it and it flashes a DOS looking window for an instant and then disappears.  I don't know why, everyone seems to have no trouble with it except me.  Maybe it's Vista? 

Cancel that.  I opened it using command prompt but can't get it to recognize any cd-rom drives on my computer.  I can't even get to my cd rom drive (f:\) just moving around in prompt.  It would just be cd\f:\ right?  wtf? 

I don't think so - "cd" stands for "change directory"; to change drives, isn't it just "f:"?

[Withalligators]

Yes, You are right.  It's been too long since I used DOS.  But I still can't get TurboRip to recognize my CD Drive.  I also tried CDRWIN to rip and CDmage to error check.  Mounting this image with Daemon, I had all kinds of music errors in Magic Engine.  I didn't even bother burning a disc (even though cloneCD won't recognize my virtual drive.  So I'd like to try TurboRip if it specializes in preventing audio errors.  Any more help?  Thanks,
Alex

[geise]

You might need to install aspi drivers.  What OS are you using?

[Withalligators]

I'm using vista.  I've installed various aspi drivers for Gens to run Sega CD stuff (which didn't help so I started using Fusion).  any idea what I should try?  Thanks,
Alex

[override]

Hello,

Turborip currently is not supported for Vista (officially). You CAN use this on Vista if you have the correct aspi drivers and files. Also this program cannot be run by simply clicking to open it. The program is designed for DOS use only.

I can help you out with the issues you are having.....You will need the WINASPI32.DLL file. I have this file and can email it to you!  

Next you are going to need to put the file in your windows/system32 folder. Also you will need the files in the same folder as TURBORIP. Turborip should be in C:\TEMP

Now your going to open a command prompt from windows and you are going to want to type in c:\temp\turborip /systemaspi /speed=max make sure you put the slashs and spaces like they are not \ or it wont work. That was the issue I was having. Also the speed=max can be changed to the lowest speed your cd drive offers....such as speed=10 Also keep in mind that when using DOS any filename OVER 8 characters generally will NOT work. Just rename it to make it shorter. Example of what my files look like are C:\TEMP\Turborip\turbo.exe

Also when opening and using the program make sure your CD is in the drive and has enough time for you PC to detect it etc.

My memory is kinda faulty on this because its been awhile since I used the program but I am almost positive my directions are correct.

Credit goes out to nightwolve for this program etc.

Thanks for Reading hope it helps,

override

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions!

[Arkhan]

strange that CDRWin didn't work.  It works for me under vista (I backed up a few discs to check a second ago).

Try the ASPI stuff that was just mentioned and see.  I did that at one point and it is why mine works right maybe...?



I wasn't aware of TurboRip.  This is good news.

[override]

Also I forgot to mention the best media so far that I know of for burning pretty much any game!

The BEST that I have used so far are Diamondsilver CD-R's! You can find them on several sites and they generally range form about 21 cents to 29 cents a peice. Ofcourse you have to buy in 25,50,100, and 100+ packs. These suckers are the closest you will get to an actual "oem" silver presses cd used for anything game, music,etc. wise. They are almost virtually undetectable as a burned game to game consoles and music player etc.! I use the inkjet printable "silver/silver" CD-R's and although the label side doesnt print aswell as others I have used the load times and struggles on the laser are virtually unchanged! I think they are well worth the money and everyone should give them a shot! Oh and I use CD Clone to make my backups! I think the program works really well...It too is supposed to burn the data exactly as it was "ripped" off the disc and its a very fast process even on the slower speeds!

The link I use to buy these is: HERE! they offer sharpie markable, inkjet printable and thermal printable along with colored cds! On the left bar scroll down to diamondsilver
cd-r's then in the main window go to:

 48X 80-Minute
DIAMONDSILVER CD-R's
with Shiny-Silver Top
True Silver, Colorless Dye

Keep scrolling down for even better media but at a higher price! The data protective are supposed to be the best they make!

The second to best in my opinion is the Taiyo Yuden CD-R's. The ones in particular that I am talking about are the light blue data surface. You can find them on several sites and they generally range form about 22 cents to 29 cents a peice. Ofcourse you have to buy in 25,50,100, and 100+ packs. The light blue data surface ones are they only of the Taiyo Yuden brand that in my opinion work the best. The best thing about them is that you can get them as inkjet printable cd's! You can also get them as Thermal Printable CD's too which is how all the CD games were printed on at the time. SO your backups will look almost identical!

Here is the link I buy from for the CD's - HERE! scroll down on the left bar and click cd-r's &
cd-rw's then scroll down in the main page to 52X 80-Minute Taiyo Yuden
'SILVER/LiteBLUE' CD-R's these are going at 22 cents a peice so $13.50 for a pk of 50.

The website is somewhat confusing to surf on but you can also order samples of just about anything you want for like $3.50 = 10pk.

I hope this information is very helpfull to everyone.....A couple more sites you could use are - https://www.emediadepot.com/
http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=TY http://www.ioproducts.com/cdrmedia3.html

The only reason why I say Gensys DTP is cause I have used them, they guy is nice, friendly, reasonable, and ships fast!


Hope this information helps all those peeps that are trying to find the best stuff to make back-ups of there precious games without damaging the system and getting excellent results!

Thanks for reading,
override 

[sunteam_paul]

I've done a straight disc copy with Nero before and it worked fine. Easy.

[jperryss]

I'm a big fan of tha Taiyo Yudens also.

The second to best in my opinion is the Taiyo Yuden CD-R's. The ones in particular that I am talking about are the light blue data surface. You can find them on several sites and they generally range form about 22 cents to 29 cents a peice. Ofcourse you have to buy in 25,50,100, and 100+ packs. The light blue data surface ones are they only of the Taiyo Yuden brand that in my opinion work the best. The best thing about them is that you can get them as inkjet printable cd's! You can also get them as Thermal Printable CD's too which is how all the CD games were printed on at the time. SO your backups will look almost identical!

[gat]

I'm a big fan of tha Taiyo Yudens also.

The second to best in my opinion is the Taiyo Yuden CD-R's. The ones in particular that I am talking about are the light blue data surface. You can find them on several sites and they generally range form about 22 cents to 29 cents a peice. Ofcourse you have to buy in 25,50,100, and 100+ packs. The light blue data surface ones are they only of the Taiyo Yuden brand that in my opinion work the best. The best thing about them is that you can get them as inkjet printable cd's! You can also get them as Thermal Printable CD's too which is how all the CD games were printed on at the time. SO your backups will look almost identical!

Nice! I'll have to try those..

I had a bunch of other discs printed with ink and it screws up and bleeds through over the years... making em unreadable. I guess the thermal printing is the way to go. Also prolly depends on the brand. I was using some generics.