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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2012, 11:07:05 AM »
What I want to know is, suppose that her prototype copy stops working one day. Won't the game be pretty much permanently lost to everyone, just because she wanted to keep it for herself ?

Pretty much, unless the disc has been backed up to an ISO.

Though I just read through the thread I posted above and the comments (mainly from Jammaniaclord) suggest that there were several of them. I'd love to see the image get released to the public.

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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2012, 03:55:58 PM »
This was like back in 2003/04, when i was heavily into the pc engine scene. For the longest time i saved the e-mail traffic, but trashed it after a while because it reminded me of how pointless the pursuit was. I was even in talks with Squaresoft 74 to round up people to pitch in, and i believe i stated i would get the cash cow going by lumping down my1,000 dollars into a paypal account created to collect funds until we reached a goal of a reasonable offer, then make our pitch to that same owner. Problem was, no body really knew each other face to face even though we were close friends of the scene, and of course there is going to be the trust issue, and who is going to take ownership/responsibility for the account/funds. It was a flash in the pan idea, wrought with obsession(understandably so), with great intentions to share with the community(well maybe make some money off it since it was rare, if we did get it, it would have cost all of us a handsome slice of our salaries, so in fairness, we woukd be in the right to charge some monetary fee to share a copy). I will be honest, i was crushed when they did not release the game. I waited and waited for a long time while it was being developed. DieHard Games used to run their ads in EGM, and had screenshots of all the awesome imports, and that was one of them. I used to call them and bug them about the release date. When they told me it was shelved i was crushed. Now i just dont care. I gave up. I will find the website that has the screenies. I do have those images saved on my laptop somewhere to this day. I look at them once in a very long blue moon. Sigh. Sniff.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2012, 04:09:23 PM »
The link for the screens and the owner, was already posted in here by another user hyperlinked "here ya go". It is a geocities(god geocities is ancent!). I translated the site with a program i had back then and contacted her. It was like a big sushi-smelling middle finger in the face when i was rejected. She was polite about the rejection though, so my remarks are purely of frustrated jest, not rage filled loathing. If it is still the same exact website(which appears to be. Iunno.... It's been 8-9 years since then, and i dont have my laptop with me now to compare images, but if you translate the site, her e-mail is/was on there.

I agree, if she doesnt have it backed up, it could become a coaster, and it would be lost forever, all because she wanted to keep it for herself. Maybe she will bequeath it to me in her will, with a letter of apology. My luck, i'd have arthritis by then, and cruel fate would laugh in my face like Henry Rollins.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2012, 04:24:08 PM »
Correct..... All i wanted was a copy. I wanted it because i wanted to play it and beat it, as well as tell the story of how i had one of the worlds rarest unreleased games, for the worlds most underappreciated gaming system. I wanted it to be something i could share with my close friends of the community as well. The owner is not stupid, and realizes her investment would depreciate under that umbrella, and i respect her diligence, regardless of how frustrating it is. There are several other ultra rare pc engine titles as well i would love to obtain an iso image of for my collection, but life has its priorities, and i am not richie rich throwing money at the ground for shits n giggles. I wish i were though, as you'd all be killing my bandwidth to get copies. Lol!

I would however settle for a detailed story of how she landed the prototype, and have it posted as a major article on this website, and any others. I think we have all wondered that scenario, and would be thankful for some insight on that.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2012, 05:46:11 PM »
I was even in talks with Squaresoft 74 to round up people to pitch in, and i believe i stated i would get the cash cow going by lumping down my1,000 dollars into a paypal account created to collect funds until we reached a goal of a reasonable offer, then make our pitch to that same owner. Problem was, no body really knew each other face to face even though we were close friends of the scene, and of course there is going to be the trust issue, and who is going to take ownership/responsibility for the account/funds.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2012, 04:20:47 AM »
I honestly think that $10,000 will be too low and that it might take something more like $20,000 - $30,000. Which is not worth it to me.

The other thing to consider is that the person who owns that site and any other rumored owners of the game, may very well have traded it away years ago to the kind of private hoarder who doesn't wave around around proof of ownership on the internet. People like this one woman can continue to bask in the same level of glory without actually owning the game and no one will ever know the difference.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2012, 05:07:45 AM »
f*ck that.  we should do a kickstarter and call it

GET PC COCORON OUT OF THE HANDS OF THAT BITCH IN JAPAN

[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2012, 05:15:51 AM »
Correct..... All i wanted was a copy. I wanted it because i wanted to play it and beat it, as well as tell the story of how i had one of the worlds rarest unreleased games, for the worlds most underappreciated gaming system. I wanted it to be something i could share with my close friends of the community as well. The owner is not stupid, and realizes her investment would depreciate under that umbrella, and i respect her diligence, regardless of how frustrating it is. There are several other ultra rare pc engine titles as well i would love to obtain an iso image of for my collection, but life has its priorities, and i am not richie rich throwing money at the ground for shits n giggles. I wish i were though, as you'd all be killing my bandwidth to get copies. Lol!

I would however settle for a detailed story of how she landed the prototype, and have it posted as a major article on this website, and any others. I think we have all wondered that scenario, and would be thankful for some insight on that.

Well before you start writing your autobiography you might want to learn that Yuki is very much not female.  Tats has even met him a few times in a bar.  Great guy.  In Japan "Not for sale" means NOT FOR SALE.  Yuki has helped me a few times stop annoying the guy, he's quite busy.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2012, 05:20:27 AM »
f*ck that shit.  He's got something that should be shared instead of horded. 

What happens when he dies?  The thing gets auctioned off, thrown out? Taken to some thrift store?  Lost?

in Japan, NFS doesn't mean anything different than here.   Every hoe has their price.

what is he busy with really?  I doubt people trying to get his proto is that distracting.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2012, 05:28:06 AM »
I'm not going into cultural differences, but do you really think annoying the hell out of him is going to change his mind?
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2012, 05:31:53 AM »
I don't think cultural differences have anything to do with it.

Collectors/Greedy hoarders are their own culture.  If he's a big enough dick to sit on something that important and shaft an entire community worldwide, hes also a big enough dick to eventually cave in and sell it off for some obnoxious sum of money.



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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2012, 05:44:07 AM »
We are talking about a culture that still doesn't understand the idea of joint custody, it simply doesn't exist.  Marriage laws haven't been updated in over 200 years.  Even though the entire world is bitching at them they are just finally agreeing to look at the Hague Convention.  Also they bitch about the USA not signing the Kyoto Protocol, yet they are making the tuna go extinct.  This is getting too political, so I'm stopping here, but the point is "Not for Sale" actually means "Not for sale."
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2012, 05:46:48 AM »
I bet if you waved 5000000 yen in front of Yukinator, he'd be all about sellin that shit.

He will say he won't because he doesn't think anyone will ever do that.  He looks hardcore.

"THATS THE GUY THAT WONT SELL COCORON !!1234  HES SO KAWAIIIIIIIIIIOMG"

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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2012, 06:12:44 AM »
As much as I'd love to see it, chances are that it would just be a big letdown anyway (much like Space Fantasy Zone).

We should just take the screenshots, rip out the graphics and make our own version. Then sell it for a fortune.
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Re: PC Cocoron screen shots?
« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2012, 06:23:02 AM »
Yeah, noone would really know the f*ckin difference since its all unanimated screenies.

good idea.

Noone saw this idea.  It never happened.
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