Holy Jebus!

[nectarsis]

I'm NOT the owner. Only 2 people are.
Check my collection page either:
http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/34/217/show-collection-p-0-0-100-name-asc-0.htm

But I thought you said you're NOT Adol on there?

EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??

[Adol2009]

I'm NOT the owner. Only 2 people are.
Check my collection page either:
http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/34/217/show-collection-p-0-0-100-name-asc-0.htm

But I thought you said you're NOT Adol on there?

My twin is reponsible for the listing there.I can't edit it,i don't have his password.
We share the collection.We share things,as normal brothers would do.

[Adol2009]

Thats my point even over 20 years (as stated before)...very few average people would have the means for that kind of collection.  Time, $, etc. 

Yes..but it can happen. If i managed (with my twin) to do it,why not others?
I'm not rich, i never was,and i'm still not now. It's all about patience and devotion to a goal. ^^

BTW, I modified all my posts, due to my boredom seeing Sinistron's answers. That is way off topic,and not interesting for anyone.
I'll be pleased from now on to answer to any question with a "normal" member,who will be able to answer mine as well.
I'm not here for fighting with a 5y mind olded brat who cannot answer simple questions and explain his false assumptions.

[Necromancer]

And if you want I give to you some prototypes, could you just say please ?

I can: please upload copies of any prototype roms or isos in your possession.  Failing that, screen shots, in-game footage, and reviews would be nearly as welcome.  If such material is already available, please point us to the correct site.

P.S. - It's good to see that not all Frenchmen are raving, hypocritical tricksters.


@ Adol2009 - Your illogicality and incongruities are too much for me.  As such, I won't be tilting at any of your windmills.

[Adol2009]

EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??

I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well..
And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well.
We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world.
since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem?
don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)?  Especially twins.  ^^

[Adol2009]

Necromancer:I'd say the same:
please upload copies of any prototype roms or isos in your possession.  Failing that, screen shots, in-game footage, and reviews would be nearly as welcome.  If such material is already available, please point us to the correct site.

About the windmills,it's just the truth is too hard for you to hear. 
I get it,i saw that with sinistron already. shouting,naming,lying,i got it.
The point is: the way you're acting,you or sinistron, by naming people, or making false assumptions, you won't get anything good from. 
Nobody is. That's the whole point.

[nectarsis]

EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??

I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well..
And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well.
We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world.
since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem?
don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)?  Especially twins.  ^^

Claiming you aren't adol on the PCE Daisakusen..and latter it's your twins (which wasn't mentioned for awhile...def not at the point you denied it being your listing)...now you "share" it....thats at least 3 different versions of the story.

1.  It's not yours at all
2.  It's your twins (twin wasn't mentioned for awhile)
3.  You share it
4.  The fact it was listed (and on there for quiet some time) with you having NO knowledge of it.

[Adol2009]

EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??

I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well..
And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well.
We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world.
since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem?
don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)?  Especially twins.  ^^

Claiming you aren't adol on the PCE Daisakusen..and latter it's your twins (which wasn't mentioned for awhile...def not at the point you denied it being your listing)...now you "share" it....thats at least 3
different versions of the story.

No, that's only one.
I'm not adol on PCE daisakusen. My twin is. he owns the account,password,etc.
I don't see why i'd mention my twin earlier,since i had no idea what the hell Sinistmoron was talking about (PC Cocoron stuff).
I realized then Sinistmoron's lie, about me owning PC Cocoron. Looked like he knew better than me what i own (
What i share with him is the PHYSICAL COLLECTION, the OBJECTS, the GAMES. Not ONE damn listing on ONE website made by ticking 800 games at a time.
Is it clear?

Edit:ahh,you modified your post..then i'll answer that part:
1.  It's not yours at all
2.  It's your twins (twin wasn't mentioned for awhile)
3.  You share it
4.  The fact it was listed (and on there for quiet some time) with you having NO knowledge of it.

Answer 3 is correct.We share the collection. Sicne we started it together 20 years ago.Which is not the case for all fullsets i have.some of them,like DC,was done by me only.
Answer 4 is correct as well.I know he ticked the collection games on that website,but didn't check every fraction of it. What is the point?

[sunteam_paul]

BTW, I modified all my posts, due to my boredom seeing Sinistron's answers. That is way off topic,and not interesting for anyone.

Look, I'm not usually one to jump in and start beating-up on forum members, but it's pretty clear that you modified your posts to cover up your epic fail and spaghetti of what appeared to be half-truths. Not to mention plenty of name-calling by yourself when you complain people are doing the same. Sure, this forum can be quite hard on people (sometimes a little unfairly) at times, but you're really not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps it's just the language barrier *shrug*

[Adol2009]

Not to mention plenty of name-calling by yourself when you complain people are doing the same. Sure, this forum can be quite hard on people (sometimes a little unfairly) at times, but you're really not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps it's just the language barrier *shrug*

It's pretty clear that forum is a kid's playground as well.
I came here because i was shocked to see how Thibaut was treated,and i gave solid points. about fact sharing or not, and what happned last years about this.
Why japanese owners don't share, how other communities operate for grabbing such stuff,etc.
Solid points that Sinistron was unable to answer besides "douchebag" and such comments.Maybe the truth wasn't easy to hear after all.
About calling names, i started after SEVERAL (a dozen?) posts of Sinistron doing such against Thibaut, and me. I got sick of such arrogant and childish attitude. Then i answered.
My bad i didn't know that forum was a playground.
Any honest member would see that chronologically he started insulting Thibaut (or me) way before i answered. Didn't you?

The only thing that comes out of this is that it doesn't help getting rare stuff shared. I know i shared a lot of stuff(PCE,Nintendo,Mega CD) in the past, but seeing such attitiude,it doesn't help doing the same thing ever again.

[esteban]

Life 101

For the folks who find it necessary to be rude, aggressive and attack fellow board members, here's a thought...

A little bit of peace, love and harmony goes a long way.

If you actually cared about learning more (and possibly even playing) the "unobtainable", you might consider a more civilized approach.

1) If there was ever a chance that we could build healthy relationships that we could all benefit from, you've poisoned them with your personal attacks, juvenile drama, and good-old-fashioned spite. Bravo. You have contributed greatly to the PCE/TG-16 Community.

2) I would refrain from characterizing "Frenchmen" in any manner, since we've shown, here in this thread, just how imbecilic "Americans" can be. Bravo. (Canadians? Who cares about them!)

3) As for Yuki, the person who owns PC Cocoron... he's been gracious enough to share the ISO with me*. See? A little bit of peace and love goes a long way.






* No, of course he hasn't. Perhaps he never will. You know what? Use your time an energy to be constructive and productive. Namaste.




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Q & A (Bonus!)
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Q: Esteban, what entitles you to interrupt this thread with a "holier-than-thou" lecture on how we should communicate with each other?
A: F*ck you.

[Sinistron]

Esteban- I like you man- honestly I do- you're cool as hell- but save your peace and love crap.  You're not Jesus and this isn't Camp Christ.

Besides- my rudeness- as you put it- helped us eliminate one possible holding of PC Cocoron.  We're closer to realizing who ACTUALLY owns the damn thing.

[sunteam_paul]

The whole problem with these rares is the vicious circle of buyers and sellers. If people wouldn't pay such ridiculous prices for them then it really wouldn't be that much of an issue. But there's really no cure except for one person to break that cycle.

I remember when a copy of Space Fantasy Zone got leaked just after myself and a fairly modest group of others managed to get hold of it through someone - at the time it was disappointing that the trust had been broken, but in hindsight it was probably the best thing that could have happened. (At least everyone can see how unexceptional it is now!).

[esteban]

Esteban- I like you man- honestly I do- you're cool as hell- but save your peace and love crap.  You're not Jesus and this isn't Camp Christ.

Besides- my rudeness- as you put it- helped us eliminate one possible holding of PC Cocoron.  We're closer to realizing who ACTUALLY owns the damn thing.

I thought I was blunt enough, but you miss the main point of my post: In this situation, you (and others) are being COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. Don't be silly. Identifying the "true owner" is meaningless when you have gone out of your way to destroy relationships--the very relationships necessary for obtaining the unobtainable.

Sinistron, you know I totally respect you, and, believe me, we have the same goals. We just have very different ideas about how to actually reach those goals.

[Adol2009]

Life 101

For the folks who find it necessary to be rude, aggressive and attack fellow board members, here's a thought...

A little bit of peace, love and harmony goes a long way.

If you actually cared about learning more (and possibly even playing) the "unobtainable", you might consider a more civilized approach.

1) If there was ever a chance that we could build healthy relationships that we could all benefit from, you've poisoned them with your personal attacks, juvenile drama, and good-old-fashioned spite. Bravo. You have contributed greatly to the PCE/TG-16 Community.

2) I would refrain from characterizing "Frenchmen" in any manner, since we've shown, here in this thread, just how imbecilic "Americans" can be. Bravo. (Canadians? Who cares about them!)

3) As for Yuki, the person who owns PC Cocoron... he's been gracious enough to share the ISO with me*. See? A little bit of peace and love goes a long way.






* No, of course he hasn't. Perhaps he never will. You know what? Use your time an energy to be constructive and productive. Namaste.




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Q & A (Bonus!)
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Q: Esteban, what entitles you to interrupt this thread with a "holier-than-thou" lecture on how we should communicate with each other?
A: F*ck you.

Congrats for this post.
I just hope such strength in hatred here would have been used to convince those 2 owners.
But with Sinistron's rude approach, you can be pretty sure nobody would give a damn f*ck about it.
Keep up the good work.

About PC Cocoron, i missed an opportunity for 15mn 1 year ago.Too bad that was a BIN. The usual japanese user won it.