Author Topic: Over rated, under appreciated? (Read 1342 times)

Keranu · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2005, 11:12:04 AM »

Quote from: "stevek666"

yes, i can see how veigues might be clunky... but when I play it, the big pile of junk moves gracefully! i'm serious! I think I've played this game way too much over the years.

Keranu, didn't I convince you to check out Veigues? Or was that someone else? Anyway, they weren't too impressed with it.

VEIGUES RULES, you bastards

I'm not sure, I just know you talk ab00t the game a lot. I have had the game for a year or so and try to enjoy it as much as you do, but I just can't get into it that much. I remember I found it much more fun the first time I played it. I do really dig the powering up different parts of your robot in that game along with some pretty decent graphics and music. I just can't tolerate the feel of the game too much though. I'll have to try beating this game sometime because I tend to enjoy games more after I beat them so I can look back at them

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Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #16 on:** June 17, 2005, 09:30:53 AM »

Yea,I nod my head in agreement that Sapphire was not that special.It was good,but not perfect,wonderful,awe-inspiring,jaw dropping perfect.
Strider is however really good.The flicker was the only bad thing to me,and it wasnt that bad.Even the Genesis version has flicker.
I have a burned bin/cue copy of both,as I will not pay more then 80 bucks for a game like Sapphire,and it goes for over 300 usually,but Strider I do plan to buy in July.These 2 are the only games I have that are not originals,so I dont list them in my collection list.
On the Genesis,Robocop vs Terminator.
Hardly anyone talked about this game,yet it was fantastic.The graphics and sound set the mood,the blood was nice,there was a code for more and lady killers,The bosses were very cool.
I place this one at the top/best of my Genesis games.

ParanoiaDragon · « **Reply #17 on:** June 17, 2005, 09:14:42 PM »

I love Sapphire, & Kaze Kiri, & Veigues, & Beyond Shadowgate, & lots of games that are considered underated, or overated. Yes, some of those games are overated, but, I couldn't care less, I love what I love. Sapphire is a solid 2 player shooter with a great soundtrack & some neat effects you don't really see on the Turbo. Beyond Shadowgate kicks arse, one of my favorite all time games! Veigues is just a great solid game, get's a little too tuff for my blood. Final Lap Twin rocks, especially the rpg, I've wanted to do something similar, maybe someday with the Fronzen Utopia team

I didn't think that the last boss was so hard, it's been awhile since I played it, I remember giving my car the ultimate of everything.

Kaze Kiri, is overated, but I still love the game, sure, I wish they did more with it, but, whatever, it's still great! Strider is great, not as good as it could of been on the Turbo, but it's still great. I've seen pictures side by side & the Turbo version is deffinitly more detailed.

Conan is an ok game, especially since I only played 10 bucks for it, I would be willing to pay more. Oh, on Sapphire, I'd pay around 100 US at most for it, so I'll probably never own it. As for DE 2, it's a great game, far greater then the first game, so even without the cinemas, I love it. Cosmic Fantasy 2, great game, by a great team, I get sick about people bashing WD, I couldn't care less what they changed, I've loved everything they put out, & atleast we get these games. I'd rather get the games they've given us, chopped up into pieces, then nothing at all! I love their humor as well. I just want to enjoy games in english, even if they are badly acted or whatever. Sure, I'd love for the games to be translated better, but, oh well, that's life. If the worst company in the world brought over the Far East of Eden series, I'd be greatful for the fact that we got them in english, with horrible artwork, horrible voice acting, etc, etc. I'm a very tolerant gamer

Air Zonk, one of my favorite shooter series, yes, I said series, the sequal is great too, it's not the best, but it's still a great game. Macross 2036 is a great game, with or without the liscense. I actually hated Robotech back in the day(I was a Transformers guy, but I have the whole Robotech series on DVD now), so the Macross & Robotech, meant nothing to me at the time, it was just a great game. I didn't even bother getting ELS, cuz at the time, Macross just didn't do it for me, things change over time ofcoarse

akamichi · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2005, 02:20:13 AM »

One game I think is suprisingly fun and interesting is Emerald Dragon. From what I understand, it is/was a highly regarded RPG in Japan back in the day. Apparently it was a big deal that it was ported to the PCE. It was initially released on PC (not sure which platform, but probably the major ones back in the day).

Anyway, I got the game fairly cheap and when I started playing it, I found that I just couldn't put it down. I know RPGs are hard to get into when there's the language barrier, but I really like this game. Emerald Dragon usually isn't mentioned when people talk about PCE RPGs, but I think people who can handle Tengai series or Startling Odessey can play through this game just fine.

I don't think there ever was an English version (official or fan translated). But it would be cool if this was translated.

The game starts out with a tribe of dragons spotting a wrecked ship off the coast. A little girl (about 5 years old) was rescued from the ship by one of the dragons. You play a child dragon who befriends the girl. The girl lives with the dragons for about 10 or so years when she decides to return to her land. The main char tells her that if she's ever in trouble to call him and he'll come to help. Well, guess what happens.

That description doesn't do the game justice. I also left out a number of details to get people interested. The graphics are pretty good and colorful. The game also uses the arcade card to reduce load times between areas. It's not really noticeable unless you go between two areas frequently.

Great game. Good story.

lord_cack · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2005, 05:42:33 AM »

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"

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On the Genesis,Robocop vs Terminator.
Hardly anyone talked about this game,yet it was fantastic.The graphics and sound set the mood,the blood was nice,there was a code for more and lady killers,The bosses were very cool.
I place this one at the top/best of my Genesis games.

I have this game as well, the controls are sloppy and the animation is stiff so I think that game isn't very good. OK graphics though.

Keranu · « **Reply #20 on:** June 18, 2005, 03:37:19 PM »

I agree with you about Emerald Dragon, Akamichi, although I haven't played through the game yet. I played over an hour of it a few years ago and thought it was awesome. I have a copy of the game now and I am thinking about playing through it sometime. A person I talk to on the internet has this page up somewhere that was translating some of the game. I'll have to look for the page again or ask him for it.

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #21 on:** June 18, 2005, 04:45:25 PM »

Quote from: "lord_cack"

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"
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On the Genesis,Robocop vs Terminator.
Hardly anyone talked about this game,yet it was fantastic.The graphics and sound set the mood,the blood was nice,there was a code for more and lady killers,The bosses were very cool.
I place this one at the top/best of my Genesis games.

I have this game as well, the controls are sloppy and the animation is stiff so I think that game isn't very good. OK graphics though.

Did you expect it to be as fluid as lets say SF Alpha/Zero in the frames department?I never had a problem with the controls.And during my stint of running a game store,I have never heard of anyone complaining about the controls or anim. frames.Collectors and gamers alike like to buy it.The Snes version however did suck.

akamichi · « **Reply #22 on:** June 18, 2005, 07:47:08 PM »

Quote from: "Keranu"

I agree with you about Emerald Dragon, Akamichi, although I haven't played through the game yet. I played over an hour of it a few years ago and thought it was awesome. I have a copy of the game now and I am thinking about playing through it sometime. A person I talk to on the internet has this page up somewhere that was translating some of the game. I'll have to look for the page again or ask him for it.

Cool. I did a quick Google search and this page is about the only one I could find. I managed to snag the SFC version and I've been playing that one recently. I only played about an hour to two into it and it seems to be pretty much the same as the PCE ver except the town and locations seem to be laid out differently. So far the story is pretty much the same.

If I'm not mistaken, the SFC version came out after the PCE version because it seems the SFC ver has some extra stuff in it. Nothing particularly big, but in the PCE ver, when you travel to the land of humans, you just show up near a town. No transition at all. In the SFC version, there's a cutscene that shows you flying as a ball of light to the land of humans. Then you land at a place that looks like it was a portal.

It was kinda weird when I played the PCE version the first time because I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do, but luckily you're pretty much right outside of the first town.

lord_cack · « **Reply #23 on:** June 18, 2005, 09:08:00 PM »

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"

Quote from: "lord_cack"
Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"
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On the Genesis,Robocop vs Terminator.
Hardly anyone talked about this game,yet it was fantastic.The graphics and sound set the mood,the blood was nice,there was a code for more and lady killers,The bosses were very cool.
I place this one at the top/best of my Genesis games.

I have this game as well, the controls are sloppy and the animation is stiff so I think that game isn't very good. OK graphics though.

Did you expect it to be as fluid as lets say SF Alpha/Zero in the frames department?I never had a problem with the controls.And during my stint of running a game store,I have never heard of anyone complaining about the controls or anim. frames.Collectors and gamers alike like to buy it.The Snes version however did suck.

It could have been better, thats all I'm saying, goodness everything seems so defensive. I doubt that anyone would say that Robocop versus Terminator was the picture of excellent controls and the animation.

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #24 on:** June 18, 2005, 09:15:27 PM »

Alien Soldier.One of my friends bought it for over 200 bucks,he thinks it was worth it,do any of you?

RCduck7 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2005, 10:26:26 AM »

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"

Alien Soldier.One of my friends bought it for over 200 bucks,he thinks it was worth it,do any of you?

No.

You can get the pal version on Ebay for half the price.

Myself i bought the game about 3 years back for peanuts and didn't even realise it was worth that much back then.

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2005, 04:28:35 PM »

He didnt buy the Pal UK cart,he bought the Japan one because of the title screen being different or something,with some kind of message about the Burning 68000 heart of fire.

doomfarer75 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2005, 02:40:21 AM »

Crucify me...but TV Sports Basketball has supplied my friend and I an endless 15 year rivalry...you learn to appreciate its deficiencies and accept them....Plus, its not "NBA-certified" which you can't get anymore. If only I had convinced Mindrec to do a SCD version with some updates....

lord_cack · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2005, 05:16:42 AM »

Damn you to the depths of hel....wait, I played the shit out of TV Sports Basketball and it never bothered me, I don't like sports games that much so I didn't care about the little things....

RCduck7 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2005, 06:04:29 AM »

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"

He didnt buy the Pal UK cart,he bought the Japan one because of the title screen being different or something,with some kind of message about the Burning 68000 heart of fire.

I can only give more money on something more expensive as the Japanese version if i have to much money.
If it's the same in gameplay and graphics i guess it's not worth it.