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lord_cack

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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2005, 02:48:06 AM »
I think that the personal attacks over a game are too much. Neither Nodtveidt or myself made any prior attacks on your person. In fact, I have defended your right and everybodies right to love which ever game you choose to like. But, as I said before, if your gonna step up and say "Hey that Superman game for the N64 was great." then expect to hear a thousand "OH that game was SCHITE" comments (not saying by the way that you did say that you liked that game).

Now as for Mysterious Song and the other games coming from Frozen Utopia...so you don't like it. So it looks dated...this isn't PS2 or Xbox. It is a remake of a traditional Role Playing Game and I believe he was trying to keep some of the originals charms and looks and not re-invent the wheel. You don't have to play it. I also would like to ask how many games have come out for the Turbo in the last 8 years......lets see Implode and A Metero Blast...fine games and damn glad that their is someone out there making an attempt to put stuff out for MY Favorite system of all time. But, one is a Yahoo game clone and the other is an Asteroids clone. So lets not split hairs about game appearance=not good.

As for the rest of your post, its childish at best and down right rude at worst. I will make no appologies about one single comment I made. If you have no since of humor or the ability to leave others to their opinions that is a problem you have to deal with not me. But, until then I would like to say.....Keep your eyes on Frozen Utopia and their products, because I am pretty damn sure, that thanks to your comments, there will be no vaporware over there....Even if I have to be the last man standing over there....which I won't
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« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2005, 03:04:25 AM »
Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"
I thought you might like to read this,sence it might give you a idea of a couple of "true and real" gamers opinions might be like regarding your up and coming game.
here you go straight from the Yahoo archive.


I, for one, am excited about this game.

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« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2005, 05:26:05 AM »
It's a shame to see such negativity and childishness on these boards.  This is usually the one place I can go to that avoids that sort of thing.

Personally, while the Frozen Utopia stuff looks great in my opinion, they could release a Pong remake on the Turbo and I'd still pay top dollar for it just to encourage people to keep making stuff for my favorite system.  

If we're going to be petty here, it's spelled "since" not "sence".   :wink:

Just kidding.  Anyway, my point is, let's just keep this civil, shall we?  If you want to argue, please go to GameFaqs or IGN.
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« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2005, 08:45:00 AM »
So......how bout them Dodgers?  Anyways, let's just let this all end.  It's not getting anyone anywhere.  We're all imperfect people, with different opinions, & that's just the way it is, end of story.

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« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2005, 06:42:20 PM »
You can look for Quoth on ebay or on yahoo,I didnt fake the conversation,why would I bother?And as I recall both of you asking what kind of freaks live where I am located,remarking about the binky,and other remarks I wont bother to list,as anyone can go back and read them.And you said this stuff first,why?Because I defended a game mag and some games I feel were really great.You opened the door as far as I am concerned.Quoth and I use to manage game stores,We are both heavy gamers and collectors,him more then me infact.We are both into older game systems.he is the friend who dished out the 200 plus bucks for Alien Soldier.After doing that there shouldnt be any question about his passion for gaming.If you would like,you can check his ebay auctions,as he sells alot of hard to find stuff,for all systems.The ebay id to look for is quoth09.
As far as games go,I have a Gamecube,and  a PS2 here in the house,but never play them.I only play 16-bit stuff anymore,and pc games here and
there.If I only cared for the Xbox and PS2 crap that is churned out monthly,I would'nt be here right now.
I look at it this way,the game either brings something to the table I like,or it doesnt,and that is the end of it.If I liked the game,I will defend it.And it is a basic fact that most of those games on the list were major titles over the time period of 88-96.I cant fathom the idea that a hard core gamer,or a guy programing for a classic system could have missed half of those games,yet make a attempt at making a classic feeling game on a system such as the Turbo Cd/Pc-Engine.And I got a glimps of Puerto Rico a couple weeks back,as Wal Mart held its share holders convention her ein Fayetteville,and many people from your "island" came to it,as they do each year,and with happy joy joy smiles comment about how much more we have here in the small city of Fayetteville then they do on the "island",and we watch with happy smiles as they spend and spend and spend away their hard earned cash on things like blow dryers and Apex dvd players,and in the most broken english as possible ask if everything comes with a 110/220 volt adapter.
Thats where the 3rd world comment comes from,and it gets reinforced every year in late May to early June.and as a former Wal Mart employee,i can assure you that Wal-Mart has every interest at heart in exploiting the richest AND poorest of areas all around the world.

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« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2005, 07:35:17 PM »
You know what keeps getting reinforced how much of a Bigot and a Hypocrite you truely are.

I am going to say that this is my last comment on the topic.  I defended everyones comments even your initial comment. But they have clearly depraved down to name calling and immaturity. You seem to think you know so much, but think so little. I appreciate your right to your opinion but defamation of character and racially driven comments are not defendable actions and I think that the people of the community should show it the proper respects....


Anyway, I figured out what The worst games I like is. I like the TV Sports line up and Night Creature....but atleast I don't like Ballistic  :shock:  :D
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« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2005, 07:35:49 PM »
Dishing out $200 for Alien Soldier when you can get the PAL version IN ENGLISH for 1/3 of that makes you semi-retarded, not hardcore.  And I love how Starblade is some kind of measuring stick, I bet a big portion of the professional game programmers out there don't know or give a rat's ass about half the games on that list.

Props to Frozen Utopia, anybody who can make or port a new RPG to the Duo has an awesome mullet and can probably play at least a 15 minute guitar solo.

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« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2005, 09:50:47 PM »
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE?

I finally catch up reading the old posts and discover that this thread has gone wacky.

Michael: I love tons of games that most serious gamers consider "crap".  It is frustrating when folks dismiss games without really trying to appreciate them first. But that doesn't justify the barbed insults you threw at fellow posters. As I see it, everyone involved was getting somewhat abrasive with one another, but you crossed the line several times (particularly your racial / ethnic insults).

I know it sounds corny, but now it's time for some peace, love and harmony. Let's not make things any worse.

Michael, for what it's worth, I actually enjoyed reading your earlier posts when you explained some of the history behind Strata and what you liked about some of their games. That was neat stuff I didn't know and you were encouraging discussions that wouldn't have otherwise occurred here. I also enjoy it when someone takes an unpopular position and explains why they maintain it. All of that was very kool.

But, while everyone volleyed insults back and forth, you didn't have to go COMPLETELY BALLISTIX on them!

TIP: Only a handful of light-hearted barbs are necessary when you want to insult someone here!

ASIDE: This thread has inspired my most recent song, which is entitled "Games Will Tear Us Apart". I'm only half-joking!
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« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2005, 10:05:35 PM »
Messiah Mike, you are a true work of art, you know that? Oh wait, didn't I mention this before? :D Everything you say further discredits you...if I were you, I'd back out now to save at least a minor amount of face. And here's why:

So you got a "glimps" at Puerto Rico... (blame the kids for your typos). You don't have the first clue when it comes to Puerto Rico. Your little example is terribly flawed; I believe you have the wrong country. First of all, PR operates on 110, not 220, so why the hell would they need convertors? Also, English, although not the mother tongue, is spoken quite often down here, and its difficult to believe that anyone involved with Wal-Mart would be speaking in broken English, especially shareholders, who are almost always of US origin, even if in PR. Additionally, the items that you mentioned are expensive in PR; much better to buy these items and others as well in the US to avoid the tax hikes that they carry when brought here. There are products here than you can't get in the US (let's see you buy plantillas or queso blancos in your little Arkansas Wal-Mart) and vice versa. You can buy Birch Beer in Pennsylvania Wal-Marts but outside of the state, most people have never even heard of it. Wal-Mart localizes their stock; my wife and I work as merchandisers and one of the stores we service is Wal-Mart and in addition, her mother worked as a high-level manager for Wal-Mart for five years and was involved in the opening of a new one. What was your position...cart pusher? Oh excuse me...they call them "Courtesy Associates" now. Try naming a single poor third-world country that has a Wal-Mart in it. Wal-Mart does not open stores in areas which are proven to be unprofitable, kinda like McDonalds. Wal-Mart doesn't do too hot in Germany because they don't like the chain very much, but there's no use in trying to use this as an example because Germany is very much a first-world country. :D

And where did you get the idea that I said I was some kind of hardcore gamer? I never said that. I said that I, and everyone else in Frozen Utopia, is dedicated. I love this console, there's no questioning that fact. :D RPGs were my bread and butter throughout time and I disliked most other genres simply because they weren't my thing. So the fact that I didn't know about many of these "uber-l33t games" isn't exactly shocking, nor does it have any effect or bearing on our ability to produce a classic game. After all, this IS a game from my own genre of choice, and considering I've programmed many a game on the PC before (most of which are RPGs), well...I think anyone can figure out where I'm going with this one. :D

Now for a more personal note...do you pay attention to the style of writing that people use? Did you not notice the use of emoticons? I use them very often to convey emotional intention. When I mentioned "Makes me wonder what kind of deranged people live in your town... " it was followed by five laughing smiles. This means "I'm yanking your chain in good fun". Learn to recognize emoticons and their usage. Now, let's see if you can recognize the difference between these two phrases:

Please remove the corn cob from your ass. :D :D :D

Please remove the corn cob from your ass.

Can you tell the difference? :D

Now, getting back ON TOPIC, finally...how much does the Golden Axe game go for? I want to snag a copy to see this miserable failure first-hand. :D

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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2005, 12:31:31 AM »
Its not very expensive....between 15-40 bucks...not to bad...thats off the top of my head...been awhile since I hit ebay.
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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2005, 06:35:51 AM »
Hi  :D





We can take a break on this discussion by all doing the same thing.







Hi  :D
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« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2005, 08:48:30 AM »
I usually see it for around 20 bucks or less.

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« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2005, 05:24:44 PM »
I picked one up for about $7 within the last month or two.  I personally haven't seen GA go for more than $10 except for when it was first released.

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« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2005, 04:13:39 AM »
I'll thank you people to kindly stop shitting all over my thread now.  :evil:
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« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2005, 11:44:54 AM »
Im sorry,it got boring and seemed to just go on and on here so I didnt check up yesterday.To the comment about the dual voltage question,yes they asked this alot,almost everyone did,because in some parts of the world that the shareholders travel,110 volts is not the standard,they are shareholders,which means they travel everywhere Wal-Mart calls them to go to,from Germany to the moon if need be.Not only that but not every share holder,even from Puerto Rico,speak perfect english,or any english at all.The only reason english is spoken there to begin with is because the US doesnt know when to leave a place alone,and so we like to spread/force our influence down other cultures throats and change them to suit our needs."For what its worth,Id like to move to Asia,but that would depend on the wife,not just me."And alot of them had to travel all over South America to get here,some also coming from Brazil and what not,and not every place in South America is 110 from what I have been told either.My typos,yes I screw up alot,I dont even type,as I never bothered to learn,I only got into computers for the gaming experience they give.That was why I forced myself to learn to build nice gaming computers.I suck at typing,Im the first to admit that.I have kids also,and when kids are playing around you,you do get distracted.Any of you who DO have kids on this forum know this to be very true.Its cuts your gaming hours down quite a bit,or any personal time you might try to have for yourself.My job,is in retail.I have never worked as a cart pusher in my life,I dont even have to work.My wife is a LPN,that mean shes a nurse to any of you who dont know medical terms.She works on a peds floor in registry,on normal hourly pay,she makes $27.00 an hour,and gets paid $38.00 for call time hourly.I work to get out of the house so I dont go insane,it gives me a break from the kids.I have been in retail management,retail sales,been a CNA,a security guard for Union Pacific RailRoad,and a stocker for both Wal Mart and Target.I have even did a stint running photo for WalGreens.I do the jobs I like to do,that dont become a pain in the ass,and I usually only work half the year,as I take most of spring to summer off to spend with my kids.If ever in my life i was a cart pusher at Wal mart,I couldnt afford games Id like to mettion also,as they pay the cart pushers crap,and walk all over them.Also,by you commenting on the cart pushers who work there,your knocking on them for just trying to make a buck.Not everyone can do every job well,and Im sure any cart pusher would agree it sucks,but its a living for what its worth.Some people have to make bills anyway they can,and I have a couple of friends who do the cart pushing thing for the Wal Mart down the street.If you want to know a shame here,its the fact that in alot of retail game stores,they barely make over the min. wage,the cart pushers make more.Go figure.I also dont care for people bringing up their medical problems and deaths in the family for sympathy and to rally others on your side.You seemed to have gotten far into the world for what its worth,moving around a bit,and I dont think being or not being psyically active has anything to do with gaming at home or ina local arcade much,as I said,m wife works on Peds,she  takes care of lots of sick kids,dying kids,who are heavy gamers,putting lots of hours in on the Gamecube and X Box on the peds floor,who dont let anything stop them.So unless you just cant stand up at a arcade at all,and cant plunk your ass on a couch or chair to begin with,you can play games.
2:I may stoop low,and in anger not hold any punches,but I know when to admit I was being a ass,and I was.I have a tendancy to do this when others do it too.You attack me,I attack back,and thats life.I dont care for sarcasm myself,but thats just me.And even sarcasm has its limits,and then ceases to be just"sarcasm",like the binky,Arkansas knocks.Its a tired subject,I dont have the time for it anymore either,as I only got on here to discuss games,as they dont discuss them on the comp forums I go to.Enough of all of it is right,lets let it end.
3: The games on that list at one point in time were in a class by themselves,meaning not much else at the time they were released did what they did.Starblade was one of the first major 3d arcade games.Way of the Warrior was one of the first games to use a real band for its music soundtrack,not just that but the game did things no other did on the 3DO.The Guardian Legend if no tthe first was one of the first few to do a cross between shooter and adventure,and did it well.Pit Fighter was the first fighter with digitized actors.True,some of the games dont stand the test of time,because others were released that knocked them off their throne,but at the time they were out,they were it.Nothing could compete.
3:I understand why Quoth purchased the Alien Soldier cart,he did NOT want a english pal cart.He wanted a Jap cart.He liked the look of it more,box and all.I completely understand this,I have avoided as many pal games as possible,because they usually look like US counterparts.
Not just this,but there can be problems with some Pal games on US decks,like Mario Cart on Snes,the Pal cart ran too fast on NTSC systems,and was known to short out a deck while being played.I had no luck getting a Pal N64 cart to run ona US system.The few Pal Mega Drive carts I have messed with ran slower,when being forced to do 60 hz.My monitor will display Pal,without the screen rolling,but its in black and white,so why bother.Master System I never had  aproblem with,and the UK games released were way more plentiful then in the US.Dreamcast games had the same problems when messing with Pal disc.Your best bet seemed to be the VGA box,unless it was a converted game disc booted with Utopia or something.
There is some site that compared the difference on the 2,Pal and Jap carts of Alien Soldier,and if I get the link I will post it here,the only difference I noticed right away was the title screen.
Also,a side note on Golden Axe.Quoth has a bootleg cart of Golden Axe 3 for Megadrive,that only runs in Pal.
Im taking a break from this place for a day or 2 more.Its draining.Frozen Utopia will either do the job well or fail terribly,I cant wait to see either way.
Later.