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Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #195 on: October 23, 2005, 03:43:04 PM »
He remembers when it counts,and besides,why fly when you can "roll out"?

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« Reply #196 on: October 23, 2005, 03:56:21 PM »
Actually, he didn't remember.  Jazz had to pull him out of the water.
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« Reply #197 on: October 23, 2005, 04:45:46 PM »
He has flown in other episodes.

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« Reply #198 on: October 23, 2005, 04:47:02 PM »
You better be careful here,I think there are many more Optimus fans here then you think.Stop knocking Optimus.He saved us all from the horrible space dust.

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« Reply #199 on: October 23, 2005, 05:33:41 PM »
Actually, in G1, Autobots don't fly.  They did for a few episodes in the 1st season, then later changed it, so that only Decepticons fly, with the occasional Autobot that flies via a jetpack, or they happen to have a flying alt mode, like Jetfire & Powerglide.  The Dinobots do fly, though it's never explained why.  They were made on earth, maybe didn't have true sparks...or maybe Prime's connection with the All Spark(inside of Vector Sigma) allowed them to fly.  But, it's because of Autobots not being able to fly, that the Arielbots were such a big deal.  Later, the only other time you ever see Autobots fly, is when in the middle of space, like when Blaster, Ramhorn, Rewind, Blurr, Wreck Gar, & Perceptor were flying to an asteroid where Quintessons were taking energon out of the past.  I'd assume they were just able to project themselves thru space via some kind of thrusters.  But they never have an flying ability in an atmosphere.  Also, it's noted that all Autobots(that are Autobot of race, not faction) come from the worker race built by the Quintessons, with the Decepticons(Decepticon by race, not faction) coming from the warriors, which had natural flight ability.

Also, it wasn't space dust, it was the hate plague.  Here's info on that: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/6563/hateplague.html

Ultra Magnus never claimed to be a leader, he didn't even want to be a leader.  He told Optimus that he's just a soldier, & he proved that, by getting blown up, relying too much on the matrix.  As just a soldier, he thought it was the darkest hour, though, far from it.  BTW, originally, Magnus was going to be an upgrade for Optimus, rather then a new character, but, they axed that.  I forget if anyone explained their reasoning for killing Optimus & countless other Autobots & Decepticons.  I'd assume just to have no reason to continue to sell those respective toys, & push the new one.

Also, I'll note that Rodimus was a brand new leader, he had ALOT of learning to do, which I thought was cool.  Optimus had been the leader for millions of years, with Rodimus for a few years.  I'm sure Orion Pax/Optimus Prime had plenty to learn back in the day, especially since Megatron was already leading the Decepticons quite awhile before Optimus Prime came to be(noted in War Dawn).

However, I cried when Optimus died, I was 10 years old, I still get teary eyed to this day when I see that seen, and I'm 29.  I also get emotional watching Code of Hero, when Dinobot sacrifices his life, to save the (proto)humans & the Autobots fate, even though he was a descendant of Decepticons, he chose the honorable path.

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« Reply #200 on: October 23, 2005, 06:14:26 PM »
It always blows my mind when people try to think up reasons for why stuff didn't make sense in Transformers (like where Optimus's trailer goes when he transforms, I remember reading some ULTRA nerd's theory on "dimensional pockets" about that).  The cartoon had gaping plot holes and some of the most retarded writing ever, but it still ruled when I was a kid.  Now it's pretty much unwatchable.

The movie on the other hand is the best movie of all time.  Period.

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« Reply #201 on: October 23, 2005, 06:14:27 PM »
Good you know the vast details better then me,I dont keep all that locked in memory.
And the toon,as it was,was a tv ad for the toys for the US.It was created for the US first,to market the toyline,which was actually a toyline by Takara originally.They eventually pushed the stuff in Japan.I have alot fo the episodes we didnt get after our g1 over here ended.
The pretender stuff they got episode wise was pretty cool.Japan won in the end toon wise.

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« Reply #202 on: October 23, 2005, 06:52:59 PM »
Actually, Transformers in Japan was originally comprised of 2 lines, Microman(consisting of toys like Megatron, Reflector, Soundwave, & other household-esque items) & Diaclone(consisting of cars/trucks like Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Sideswipe, etc).  

I actually like the whole pocket dimension thing, it's kind of neat, if you want to get technical, which I tend to do.  Even still, we laugh we when see the trailer disapear, it's hilarious!  I actually still love the cartoon, even with all the millions of flubs.  It's one the best cartoons from the 80's, & I enjoy it more the all the current Transformer cartoons, with the exception of Beast Wars, which near the end of Season 1 got REALLY good.  

The current shows are made in Japan, with the latest made by Gonzo.  But Takara isn't going to have a main TF line for awhile, & Hasbro is looking to bring the shows back to the US, which will be a good move, IMHO.  Ofcoarse, the live action movie comes out in 07, which will/should raise the TF's status to that of Star Wars & Star Trek.

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« Reply #203 on: October 23, 2005, 07:01:33 PM »
Arg,a live action movie?????
No way,god I hope not.
Yea I used to have the Walter P.38 original Megatron that was brown before the Transformer release.He didnt have the silencer or anything.Got it off ebay way long ago,and sold it for good amount locally here.I think the release date for it was 78-79.basically looked the same except for the color.Im still impressed with the Megatron toy,any release,as the gun is very close to the real thing detail wise.

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« Reply #204 on: October 23, 2005, 08:00:08 PM »
Yeah, I have the re-issue of Megs, which they were only able to re-release in Japan, due to the US having higher standards for toy guns.  

When it comes to the movie, I think it's going to rock.  The robots will be CGI, with the humans & surroundings being live action.  And it's being written & co produced by Transformer fans, with Steven Speilberg as Executive Producer.  They're still working out the kinks, & they listen to the fans, which is great.  Don Murphy & others involved in the project talk with fans via Don's message board, so with all the feedback they get from fans, the less likely it's going to suck!

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« Reply #205 on: October 24, 2005, 01:28:07 AM »
I worry none the less.If it strays from the old stories,I wont care about it.I liek the old G1. I dont care to see Megatron as a G2 suck ugly green tank.
I want to see everyone as they were.Not just that,but Im tired of doing the 2 year wait thing,getting super hyped for 2 years,and being depressed after finally seeing a  flik.
Voice wise,it would be hard to get the old talent together too,and Im used to those voices.Chris Latta i sdead,has been for a couple years now I think,so who ever does StarScream would have to be new,and I dont think they could do the same quality.Ill wait,forget for that matter,and if the movie gets done,comes out,we will see then if its any good.Till then I wont hold my breath.

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« Reply #206 on: October 24, 2005, 05:46:53 AM »
Binaltech/Alternators rock.  Although I have my reservations for some of the chars.

Wheeljack is my fav from that line so far.  For some reason he just looks badass.  Even though Grimlock is the same mold, he doesn't look as stone cold as Wheeljack.

Maybe I should break out TF:TM soundtrack again.  :)

I video capped my JPN re-release LD and have it on my HD right now.  19GB of TF goodness.  haha!

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« Reply #207 on: October 24, 2005, 06:29:52 AM »
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I worry none the less.If it strays from the old stories,I wont care about it.I liek the old G1. I dont care to see Megatron as a G2 suck ugly green tank.
I want to see everyone as they were.Not just that,but Im tired of doing the 2 year wait thing,getting super hyped for 2 years,and being depressed after finally seeing a  flik.
Voice wise,it would be hard to get the old talent together too,and Im used to those voices.Chris Latta i sdead,has been for a couple years now I think,so who ever does StarScream would have to be new,and I dont think they could do the same quality.Ill wait,forget for that matter,and if the movie gets done,comes out,we will see then if its any good.Till then I wont hold my breath.


I know what you mean.  I know that it will be a redux of G1, & Megs will be a tank, though I doubt he'll be green.  I'm 100% he'll be his G1 colors.  It's sounding like Soundwave will be a helicoptor maybe, but either way, he'll have his Casseticons for sure.  There's still a chance that they'll make him a tape player or something, but, sometimes things have to be changed for the practicality of todays' world.  I say make him an MP3 player with memory sticks or something like that.  We'll see.  Arcee is supposed to be a part of the Autobot cast, but, there's been an uproar of sorts about her being in it, so, they might just change that.  I think Shockwave is a part of the con lineup, not sure what they're going to do him as.

Actually though, the toy line that comes after Cybertron, might be interesting to you.  Megs is gonna be a gun, & apparently, though not real looking, looks pretty badass from what I hear.  The other one that has been seen, is Starscream as an F15 I believe, which he is supposed to look pretty sweet as well.

As for the voices, they REALLY want to get the original voices!  But that doesn't mean they can.  Like you said, Chris is dead.  Though it might be possible for the guy who did Terrasaur to imitate his voice.  Apparently, he was friends with Chris, & taught him how to do the voice.  He played as Starscream taking over Waspinator in Beast Wars, did an ok job, but that was 10 years ok, maybe he's improved by then!  Also, Scatman Crothers, who did Jazz, is dead.  And I believe Jazz is one of the Autobots slated for this movie.  I'd say the 2 most likely candidates to actually be used in this movie, are Peter Cullen(he was G1 Optimus & Ironhide) & Frank Weller(he was G1 Megs, Soundwave, Galvatron, Wheelie, & a bunch of others).  We'll just have to wait & see.  I'm keeping my hopes semi high, mainly cuz I know the producers are listening, & I also know they can't just do a straight rip of the exact same G1 story.

Yeah, the Alt's rock, I have all of the ones released so far including Prowl.  The next wave includes Sunstreaker & Skids.  I'm a little bummed about Skids, since they included flames on the sides of the car, but, oh well, I'll live.

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« Reply #208 on: October 24, 2005, 09:03:56 AM »
What res did you choose to capture the LD in?Cripes thats alot of space used up.I cant believe it got that high.What player did you use also,as I was wondering,and what capture card.I was thinking maybe 12 gigs tops,past 15 is pretty big for one LD both sides captured.Depending on the setup I bet the transfer looks wonderful from the sound of it,prob much betterthen the original dvd US release yeilded.

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« Reply #209 on: October 24, 2005, 09:05:20 AM »
DVD just does not look like film.I hate DVD with a passion.
If I want artifacts Ill do a divx rip of a LD.