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esteban · « **Reply #210 on:** October 24, 2005, 03:06:38 PM »

Quote from: "Emerald Rocker"

I see reason; that's better than some people.

Kind of unrelated, but here's a cool article on why Rodimus Prime kicks Optimus's elderly ass:
http://www.segabastard.com/features/rodvsop.html

Oh man, I forgot about this silly trash that Nick wrote. I think I inspired him to write it, because we were discussing cartoons in general, and I mentioned that Grimlok (sp?) was annoying nine times out of ten and that Rodimus had NUTHIN' on good ole Optimus.

Optimus = John Wayne
Rodimus = Wayne Newton

Rodimus, as a character, has some neat attributes and qualities, but he just isn't in the same league as Optimus.

You and Nick have no respect for your elders

For fans of 21 Jump Street (top 30 best tv theme songs of all time, by the way):
Rodimus was to Optimus as Richard Grieco was to Johnny Depp

ParanoiaDragon · « **Reply #211 on:** October 24, 2005, 03:26:22 PM »

It's funny you mention John Wayne, as that's who Peter Cullen modeled his character after!

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #212 on:** October 24, 2005, 08:28:30 PM »

I got to admit though,that little peice he wrote had me laughing my ass off.It was pretty distorted,but funny as hell.I just kept laughing and laughing.It also proved my point about what I said about Rodimus copping out.He even admits Rodimus used the Dinobots all the time,and was quick to hand the Matrix over.And actually,I think the darkest hour was when the space spores/red dust crap was driving everyone mad,all over the universe.And who saved the day,Optimus Prime.

Yamazaki · « **Reply #213 on:** October 25, 2005, 03:50:36 AM »

how about closing this thread since it turned into shit.

or open a seperate transformer-thread?

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #214 on:** October 25, 2005, 06:23:56 AM »

Does it matter,we turned this thread to shit long before the Transformers subject came to light.

GUTS · « **Reply #215 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:35:33 AM »

Haha that's like the 30th guy who has popped in for a one post "please close this thread or else I'm going to start crying!".

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #216 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:43:41 AM »

Yea really,what does it matter what we are talking about here,at least we are talking about stuff we care about.If he doesnt like it,he can always go elsewhere???
I kno wit is off the subject,but crap man,cant let anyone get away with knocking Optimus,saying Rodimus was better.
Thats like saying Robocop 3 was better then 1 or 2.

esteban · « **Reply #217 on:** October 25, 2005, 08:07:00 PM »

TODAY's NEWS: I was at library with my daughter today (a cute librarian reads stories for the kids on tuesdays and wednesdays) and what do I see on the "Just Arrived" table? TRANSFORMERS: The Ultimate Guide. Hardcover. Gorgeous. I don't feel bad, the kids are too young to remember Transformers

. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but man, it looks great.

Quote from: "GUTS"

Haha that's like the 30th guy who has popped in for a one post "please close this thread or else I'm going to start crying!".

hahahahahahhaa. seriously.

Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"

Yea really,what does it matter what we are talking about here,at least we are talking about stuff we care about.If he doesnt like it,he can always go elsewhere???
I kno wit is off the subject,but crap man,cant let anyone get away with knocking Optimus,saying Rodimus was better.
Thats like saying Robocop 3 was better then 1 or 2.

Robocop 1 is one of my faves. Excellent. I was at a Presbyterian Youth Group when I saw R1 and we nearly crapped our pants (my friend's dad was/is a minister, and the Church was one of the few VCRs we had access to). I don't know if I mentioned it here, but my friend and I saw the most twisted movies with the Youth Group (Last House on the Left, Serpent and the Rainbow, etc.) The advisor let my friend pick the films and we'd occasionally get a "bad" film by "accident". The advisor was kool and always said, "Don't let it happen again." Anyway, I avoided the Robocop sequels until a just month(?) ago when R2 or R3 was on TV (w/ commercials). There was a drug called "Nuke" and a little kid was evil drug pusher.... it was amusing, for sure, but it was trash next to the original. I'll rent it, to see it properly, but I can't even believe the series veered off into a cesspool. R1 had great potential for one sequel, at least (think Alien --> Aliens, not that R1 is as good as Alien, but it's up there, IMO).

Are we off-topic again? Don't worry, I can steer us back:

So, this Robocop sequel I saw has this AWESOME scene that took place in an arcade. The arcade was portrayed as a hangout for derelicts and losers and gangsters (I'm not sure if this film came out before the Lieberman anti-Night Trap crusade, but it sure fits the moral panic of the times).

Anyway, I've mentioned elsewhere that I loved Data East's Robocop game. It was easy, I could 1 CC it. Well, naturally, all of the arcade cabs featured in this scene are Data East games! I wish I could remember some of the titles, but my memory fails me at the moment. Being the nerd that I am, I actually ran up to the TV screen to get a better look at the arcade cabs (they were being smashed and thrown around)... it sucks being senile. Serioulsy. I need some gingko biloba (sp?), stat.

EDIT: Bad Dudes was definitely one of the games! Maybe Cabal? Probably a Robocop cab...

ParanoiaDragon · « **Reply #218 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:03:37 PM »

I have the Ultimate Guide! It's written by Simon Furman, who pretty much wrote all the best of the TF comics back then. He also helped with a few episodes of Beast Wars, & has been HEAVILY involved in almost all the current Transformer comics. Including the upcoming Beast Wars comic that comes out next year, which I personally can't wait for, since it'll tie it in more with G1. If no one here knows, Beast Wars, is in the future of G1, as is Beast Machines.....though, Beast Machines, most fans like to look at it, as either a bad dream that Optimus had, or an alternate future, with all the techno organic stuff.

GUTS · « **Reply #219 on:** October 26, 2005, 07:36:03 AM »

Haha Robocop 2 was awesome I thought, not as good as the first but a damn cool movie. I loved the arcade scene, I did the exact same thing you did (get closer and try to figure out what games were being smashed), I remember my roommate at the time was all "f*ck you are such a nerd dude!".

I never bothered to see part 3 since it was PG-13 AND had ninjas in it, I bet Keranu would love it though.

esteban · « **Reply #220 on:** October 26, 2005, 08:07:17 AM »

Quote from: "GUTS"

Haha Robocop 2 was awesome I thought, not as good as the first but a damn cool movie. I loved the arcade scene, I did the exact same thing you did (get closer and try to figure out what games were being smashed), I remember my roommate at the time was all "f*ck you are such a nerd dude!".

I never bothered to see part 3 since it was PG-13 AND had ninjas in it, I bet Keranu would love it though.

Oh yeah, I said R2 was totally entertaining... it just isn't a bonafide top 10 movie like R1, IMO.

So I was watching R2? Damn, R2 must be a masterpiece compared to R3. Why the hell are ninjas in it? Sounds like the TNMT turtles movie with Vanilla Ice in it: corny!

GUTS · « **Reply #221 on:** October 26, 2005, 08:20:28 AM »

Yeah you saw part 2, I've never seen part 3 but I remember Robocop with a jet pack fighting a ninja in the trailer, it was horrible looking (though it might be worth watching now though just for cheese factor). It's like they finally realized that kids made up 3/4 of the people who loved Robocop and were making a movie for them, but it backfired because kids didn't want a pussy PG-13 movie, half the fun of watching Robocop was seeing all that R rated violence you weren't supposed to be watching.

I'd say Paul Verhoeven is one of my favorite directors, he just has so many classics. Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers, Basic Instinct, etc. I've never seen The Fourth Man but I hear it's awesome too, I need to rent it.

esteban · « **Reply #222 on:** October 26, 2005, 08:57:16 AM »

Quote from: "GUTS"

Yeah you saw part 2, I've never seen part 3 but I remember Robocop with a jet pack fighting a ninja in the trailer, it was horrible looking (though it might be worth watching now though just for cheese factor). It's like they finally realized that kids made up 3/4 of the people who loved Robocop and were making a movie for them, but it backfired because kids didn't want a pussy PG-13 movie, half the fun of watching Robocop was seeing all that R rated violence you weren't supposed to be watching.

I'd say Paul Verhoeven is one of my favorite directors, he just has so many classics. Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers, Basic Instinct, etc. I've never seen The Fourth Man but I hear it's awesome too, I need to rent it.

Paul Verhoeven is indeed the man. I actually have lots of fun watching SHOWGIRLS, so I even like his flops.

I saw one of his really early movies... I think it was called "Soldier of Orange" or something like that. Rutger Hauer was in it. It was really kool and it was filmed in Europe. This was before Verhoeven went Hollywood, if I recall correctly. I'd say it's worth checking out. It's not a Hollywood film... but it's great. Here's a gauge: if you liked Das Boot (great movie!), then I think you'll like this movie. No, they don't have anything to do with one another.... but the gritty drama comes through in both. No glam. No super-polished glossiness.

Tangent: So I was at an ASPCA charity event in LA a year or two ago (hey, there was a fashion show with scantily-clad cuties -- I was sitting right next to the runway and saw EVERYTHING up close

). Anyway, to raise money they have a "silent auction" with items that were donated. Naturally, the film studios didn't want to donate any quality films, just the stuff they can't sell, so there was a beautiful SHOWGIRLS DVD boxset. I was the only bidder for the entire day. $10. YAY!

But then some dude came in at the last minute and upped the bid. I circled round the room and upped my bid... right behind his back!

Of course, he noticed my new bid, and was looking around. I tried to be covert, but I'm sure he knew it was me. So, there we were, with a few minutes left, both of us lusting for SHOWGIRLS.

I had to circle the room once more and up his bid yet again... he relented and I got the box set for $20.

Hey, the money was going to a good cause.

check out the silly bonus items in the boxset. I've never used this stuff, though I'll probably have fun downing shots of soymilk with the glasses.

Keranu · « **Reply #223 on:** October 26, 2005, 05:34:03 PM »

Oh man, the first Robocop movie IS THE SHITZA! God damn I love it!

Michael Helgeson · « **Reply #224 on:** October 27, 2005, 07:44:15 AM »

Wow,alot passed since I mettioned Robocop.
Well, here we go:
1.I have both cuts of RoboCop on laserdisc.I have the normal one,and the Criterian CAV edition.My friend still wonders why I keep the full screen normal cut,my reply:"Its f*cking Robocop 1,you cant buy that for a dollar!"
2.I have Robocop 2 on laserdisc also.The movie script was done by Frank Miller.Most of the offbeat humor and mood from part 1 was maintained,which anyone who has posted here will confirm Im sure.
3.If you pay close attiention to some of the Prime Directives in Robocop 2 you will see one of them that says something about avoiding Orion Board Meetings as a prime directive.There were even funnier ones that you were not supposed to notice,but you need either the dvd or a LD player with screen pause feature memory for CLV disc to see them.
4.Robocop 3 just plain sucked ass,along with the TV show,and the new movies made in Canada. The ninjas in 3,I mean come on,in one of the scenes they leap off the floor and bounce around.The "concrete" floor bounces.It was so badly/poorly done.Robert Burke played Robocop,another poor choice.He was ok in Thinner,but thats another story.
5.Robocop 2 arcade game is kinda cool too.Its not perfect,but still violent,and you get to crush a guy in a truck with Robos bare hands.I'll buy that for a dollar!
6.Robocop rocks on Laserdisc more then on dvd.The sound fx that use deep bass stand out way stronger then the dvd cuts.
7.Cool warped movies:1.Naked Lunch 2.VideoDrome 3.Hardware 4.Tetsuo The Iron Man 5.Dellamorte Dellamore AKA Cemetary Man 6.Hidden.
8.Soldier of Orange was wonderful.Great WW2 flik,esp for its time.
9.I loved Showgirls too!!! It was great to see Kyle Maclachlan in something other then a David Lynch project.