Attn: Smokers! E-Cig Intro *smoke healthier*

[override]

I just recently (about 11 days ago) bought myself a "personal vaporizer" from InnoVapor.com and am very please with the product! I'm sure many of you guys on here have heard of the E-Cig and what the FDA has to say about them or have formed your own personal opinions. Aside from all that I myself can say despite of what anyone says about the product whether it be good or bad, I have quite smoking "Analogs" since the day I got this in the mail. It has been a very different experience but I honestly enjoy it very much. I already feel better, breath better, sleep better, and can taste and smell much better. Not to mention I dont reak of cigarette breath and smell!

Before buying my first E-Cig, and I would recommend this to anyone who this catches there eye is, I did my research to find the best products on the market. My research lead me to innovapor.com which carry two of the most highly sought after e-cigs on the market. Not to mention the two best quality companys marketing the two products they sell. They are the JOYe 510 made by Joytech and the EVOlution made by Intellicig. Innovapor has GREAT customer service, I generally get a response within only a few hours after emailing them and they seem to respond at almost anytime of the day or night.

The EVO is an automatic with sealed battery and an awesome atomizer while the JOYe 510 is a manual with sealed battery and again great atomizers. I personally wanted to keep the smoking feel so I went with the automatic batteries. The difference is the automatic you just draw on the cig and a pressure switch is activated which kicks the atomizer on and vaporizes the E-Juice. The manual has a button to push which activates the atomizer while then you just draw the vapor produced. I have had a great experience so far with my EVO.

The E-Cig consists of a 100mah battery, atomizer and cartride. The atomizer is a small vaporizer which when the cartridge (contains the nicotine juice) is drawn on wicks the E-Juice to the atomizer bridge which then vaporizes the liquid and allows you to inhale and exhale a vapor mist.

The three main components in the E-Juice is PG (Food Grade Propelyn Glycol) or VG; Vegetable Glycerin (also know as Wiltons Glycerine), nicotine that is cut down from your choice of either 0 to 36/mg (can be higher but not recommended) of nicotine and flavorings such as LorAnns hardcandy flavorings.

All I can say to any of you that are smokers is to atleast try it...The initial starter kit that I got from innovapor.com was $90 and has already paid for itself (see the counter below), in my opinion (id like to say its a fact) this is well worth the $90 spent on it! I have quit smoking cigarettes and started smoking a healthier choice! There is tons of information to be had out there I personally recommend E-Cigarette-Forum for tons of useful information!

Here is a video review of the EVO aswell --->

Also to top things off if you decide to go with innovapor.com you can use this code ---> 10offvape to get you 10% off any purchase. You can use it as many times as you want! Feel free to email or PM me if any of you guys have any questions. I also would like to say that I am in no way affiliated with innovapor.com or any of the products they sell. Im just one smoker trying to reach out to other smokers. 

Keep in mind that this product generally does contain nicotine, so if you are not a smoker I DO NOT recommend this product unless you get the ZERO Nicotine E-Juice and Mix your own liquid. I by no means want to get someone started smokeing who doesnt smoke. 

ENJOY!

[wmacmonagle]

Override, Congrats on your quitting method.  As for me I had been smoking cigarette as well as NA/AA..  Quit on my own using my will power with His help!.. =)  Soon to be 4 years clean and sober!..

Keep it up OVER!

1 day a time! bro!

[override]

Thanks for the congrats wmac~!

Glad to hear you were able to kick the habit yourself...

I personally didn't want to quit smoking because I enjoyed it, thankfully I found this product which allows me to still enjoy smoking (or atleast simulate the habit I had) whilst still feeding my nicotine habit. If my calculations are correct the amount I smoke on the E-Cig amounts to about 2 regular "analogs" a day so I have been able to greatly cut my nicotine habit down. I feel confident enough that I could put the e-cig down anytime I want to and not have to pick it up. 

[blueraven]

Hey override,

Congrats.

BTW I went cold turkey; 10 years, 2 packs a day. I stayed inside for the first three days.

Kept gallon jugs of water, and replaced the cravings with yoga and workouts. After 1 month I started running.

It leaves me with so much more money for video games...

[esteban]

Override, congrats on finding a product that you like

In fact, based on your recommendation, I might try the Black EVOlution E-Cig.

I don't smoke (never have), but I've been trying to wean myself off of this goddamn Nicorette gum for a few years now.

Maybe the E-Cig will help me actually accomplish this.

[override]

Hey override,

Congrats.

BTW I went cold turkey; 10 years, 2 packs a day. I stayed inside for the first three days.

Kept gallon jugs of water, and replaced the cravings with yoga and workouts. After 1 month I started running.

It leaves me with so much more money for video games...

  Great to hear blueraven! My goal is not really to quit "smoking" but more or less to smoke healthier! Not to mention my girlfriend hates the way cigarettes smell and she has I guess you can say "allergy" issues when being around cigarette smoke. She is much happier with the E-Cig, since the vapor doesn't smell or contain anything harmful, it doesn't bother her to be around it. I am saving money just not as much as if I were to completely quit. Although the one advantage to the E-Cig is if I ever wanted to put down "smoking" all together I am confident that I can!

Override, congrats on finding a product that you like

In fact, based on your recommendation, I might try the Black EVOlution E-Cig.

I don't smoke (never have), but I've been trying to wean myself off of this goddamn Nicorette gum for a few years now.

Maybe the E-Cig will help me actually accomplish this.

The EVO is deffinetly a winner! Another great reason why I choose to go with the EVO is the fact that they were working on marketing a manual battery for them! Which I apparently did not realize was going to be released so soon. I was on innovapor.com last night about to order some more ECOpure Krystal to make my own flavoring and when the page refreshed (@ midnight) the manual battery and matching atomizer popped up on the page! So now you can actually get the EVO with automatic and manual batteries!

One thing I noticed about the website when I was surfing it last night to by my E-Juice is it was never down or under construction due to the updates they were performing! This tells me one thing....You should never have an issue with getting on the site even when they are updateing it and adding stuff, which made me super excited! 

Hope the product works for you....! If you decide to get one...

[nectarsis]

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm173222.htm

More than a few articticles on this.  May not be as "great" as you guys think.

[blueraven]

Great to hear blueraven! My goal is not really to quit "smoking" but more or less to smoke healthier! Not to mention my girlfriend hates the way cigarettes smell and she has I guess you can say "allergy" issues when being around cigarette smoke. She is much happier with the E-Cig, since the vapor doesn't smell or contain anything harmful, it doesn't bother her to be around it. I am saving money just not as much as if I were to completely quit. Although the one advantage to the E-Cig is if I ever wanted to put down "smoking" all together I am confident that I can!

Right On, Thank You override. I commend you on your efforts to live a healthier life. It was a strictly chemical addiction for me, as I never had the oral fixation or made the connection between smoking and drinking.  Quitting cold turkey kicked my @$$ but it really was the only way for me to separate myself from Nicotine for good.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm173222.htm

More than a few articticles on this.  May not be as "great" as you guys think.

I never tried them for this reason.

[override]

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm173222.htm

More than a few articticles on this.  May not be as "great" as you guys think.

I would prefer this not turn into an thread of arguing on whether these are safe or not....To be quite frank with you nectarsis everything in the article is a bunch of bullshit. Yes propylene glycol (used to cute the nicotine) can and is found in radiator fluid, but you also have to figure that the PG found in ratiator fluid is NOT FOOD GRADE or KOSHER. Pharmacuetical Grade PG or Vegetable Glycerin (Wiltons Glycerin) is all approved by the FDA as a safe to humans substance. They are used in Cakes, Snow Cone flavoring, Food Dies etc. etc. etc. So the FDA is simply trying to turn something around that is simply FALSE!

You figure that is the E-Cig is allowed (which it is not illegal or banned by the FDA) and say half the people in the USA quit smoking well, the government just lost 1.5 billion dollars in tax money funded by smokers. The FDA has proven that there are carcinogens, rat poisen, methenfedamens, Raid, and all the other 4800+ chemicals in a cigarette but still allow them to be sold. Not to mention cigarettes are a combustible and that in itself is bad for your health.

If there are such stated "carcinogens" found in the e-cig then what are they from? LorAnns hard candy flavorings? nicotine? or the PG/VG? Thats the only three ingredients used to make the E-Juice. Two of the three ingredients are approved by the FDA and deemed safe for human consumption. Nicotine is approved by the FDA as a chemical that will not harm you unless consumed in its raw form (which is then considered a poison) the amount of nicotine you actually take in from the E-Cig is only about 1.3% of what your actually taking in from a cigarette. Which a cigarette contains 9mg's of nicotine per cigarette, if you smoke 1 pack a day then your taking in 180mg of nicotine a day. The highest flavored nicotine juice sold is 36mg's.

On top of all this (and plenty more if I started throwing links of tests and stuff proven on the E-Cig) the E-Cig has been around since 2002 (if my mind serves me correct) and was originally produce in china. Have you ever heard of anyone dieing from an E-Cig? Have you ever heard of anyone getting cancer from an E-Cig? I think not, never has there ever been a report of someone who was hospitalized or became ill due to an E-Cig.

I rest my case, and as I said I would prefer this to not become a thread that we argue about whether it is healthy or not. I am simply informing people of a product that works, and is simply harmless, to help quit or cut down on smoking! If anything just from the way I already feel better etc already in the last 14 days I would deff say that the E-Cig is a smarter and healthier choice!

All I can say to anyone is do your research and find out for yourself...

I forgot to add, that yes at first the E-Cig companys were a little irresponsible with packaging and not specifing that these were for 18 and older only, the product is infact NOT sold to anyone under 18. Also the E-Juice and DIY nicotine all come with childproof lock caps and most are labeled that nicotine is poisonous when directly ingested.

[nectarsis]

Wow just post a link, and get a very dickish response.

Maybe you should go back to the "analogs" may cut some of that edginess

[override]

Wow just post a link, and get a very dickish response.

Maybe you should go back to the "analogs" may cut some of that edginess

Sorry If I came across "dickish", and my edginess has nothing to do with my "analog" habit. I somewhat took offense to the link you posted and comment you stated about the e-cig "may not be as great as you guys think". You obviously are uneducated in what your talking about on the E-Cig and it seemed as if you were bashing my thread.

[esteban]

I don't smoke (never have), but I've been trying to wean myself off of this goddamn Nicorette gum for a few years now.

...

Hope the product works for you....! If you decide to get one...

I'm sorry, I was trying to make a lame joke. I apologize, because I know that you are genuinely trying to help folks and I'm just trying to be stupid .

Of course, I think I am hilarious.

[Necromancer]

Yes propylene glycol (used to cute the nicotine) can and is found in radiator fluid, but you also have to figure that the PG found in ratiator fluid is NOT FOOD GRADE or KOSHER. Pharmacuetical Grade PG or Vegetable Glycerin (Wiltons Glycerin) is all approved by the FDA as a safe to humans substance. They are used in Cakes, Snow Cone flavoring, Food Dies etc. etc. etc. So the FDA is simply trying to turn something around that is simply FALSE!

I could give a shit if E-Cigs are safe or not (normal cigs most certainly aren't), but you do realize that there's a profound difference between propylene glycol and diethylene glycol, don't you?  Like you said, the former is pretty harmless and oft used in other products, but the latter is a different story and is most certainly not available in 'food grade'.

I'm sorry, I was trying to make a lame joke. I apologize, because I know that you are genuinely trying to help folks and I'm just trying to be stupid .

Of course, I think I am hilarious.

I always enjoy a little levity, but unfortunately some people just don't seem to have much by way of a sense of humor..... or the ability to take criticism.  That said, I'm going to order me some E-Cigs, abandon 'em in favor of chewing nicotine patches, quit those to start snorting snuff, and finally switch to smoking cold turkeys (whatever the hell that means).

I somewhat took offense to the link you posted and comment you stated about the e-cig "may not be as great as you guys think". You obviously are uneducated in what your talking about on the E-Cig and it seemed as if you were bashing my thread.

My Amish sensibilities are offended by this thread (as well as all other internets).  Care to join me for a good 'ol fashioned barn raising?

[override]

Necromancer...

Yes I know diethylene glycol and propylene glycol are different chemicals...Both chemicals can technically be found in antifreeze. Ethylyne Glycol is what is most commonly used in antifreeze but diethylene glycol is derived from ethylyne glycol, although it is not techincally related.....Im not a rocket scientist so I can't break it down that well for you. Point is all three chemicals have a chance of being used to lower the freezing point in antifreeze.

The major difference here is that the FDA seemed to miss is that the Propylene Glycol used in the E-Juice is a Pharmacuetical Grade product that they deem safe for human consumption...

Yes I aswell don't have that wonderful of a sense of humor on this subject as nor do I have much of a sense of humor for anything I feel passionate about that someone trys to cut down.

WTF is a Barn Rasing? lol

[Necromancer]

The major difference here is that the FDA seemed to miss is that the Propylene Glycol used in the E-Juice is a Pharmacuetical Grade product that they deem safe for human consumption...

Did you even bother to read the article linked by nectarsis?  If you had, you'd have seen that the FDA found E-Cigs to contain the diethylene glycol, which is toxic (ethylene glycol is equally toxic and not the same as propylene glycol).

WTF is a Barn Rasing? lol

What, were you born in a barn?  It's something the Amish do.