Streuth, Necromancer, seriously, where do you even get the energy to keep these pointless arguments going? I just get so tired...I can barely keep up. You so grossly misunderstood so much of what I said though (which is different from a difference of opinion) that I have to just stick up for myself, if nothing else.
f*ck. Where's my walker and my Reader's Digest...
Unless I'm forgetting something, this isn't correct. If doing a permanent region mod (btw, please don't) you only have to cut a the pins and solder a short wire between them (differently, of course).
You left out the grounding of pin #29, which would be required for either type of mod. Otherwise, isn't that precisely what I stated?
Yes, and I wasn't arguing about it any any way. Not even slightly. That was just an establishing sentence so you would know where I was coming from in the next sentence. f*ck. You're so touchy.
If installing a switch you need to run a much longer piece of wire from the pin to the switch, and then another wire from the switch back to another pin. Therefore there are twice as many wires, and twice as many solder points when installing a switch, as well as the logistics and labor of finding a place to put the switch, and all those wires, that won't mess with with stuff when the case is put back together.
Are you being intentionally obtuse, or does it just come to you naturally? Obviously the switch would be wired up - it's not magic. Anyways, that's my point (as clarified in my last post): the work entailed in a permanent region mod is as extensive (if not more so) than adding a switch between the HuCard slot wires, yet he's seemingly charging $10 for the first service and $50 for the second.
Well, I've only ever modded one Duo, but for me DOUBLING the amount of solder points adds complexity. Yes, its double minus 2 (for pin 29). I better point that out before you blow the f*ck up on me about it. Also, all the wires that go into a perma-mod could be very short and require no logistics on running the wires, or where to put the switch. Also, it excludes buying, shipping, and installing the switch. IMO a switch is about double the work of a perma-mod.
I don't know why you've decided to be the CEO of Walmart about this anyway.
Said the hypocrite that's made three decent sized posts to refute a six word comment not directed at him in the first place. I guess your opinion is just more important than anyone's else, eh?
OK, I guess I used language that was too creative there...I think. I'm not sure WTF you are talking about there, but I assume you thought that I was saying you should mind your own business. This is not the case at all. If you thought that someone was ripping someone off here then of course you should say something about it. I do the same thing. All the f*cking time.
So instead of assuming that I'm telling you not to do something that I do all the time myself and calling me a hypocrite, maybe you could use your
brain instead. You could say to youself, "Gee, he's constantly interfering in the threads about $300 copies of Bonk and stuff. He's terrible at keeping his mouth shut. Why would he tell me to butt out? Wait...maybe that's not what he's saying at all..." At which point you might decipher my (in retrospect, poor) metaphor and guess that I wasn't accusing you of being a nosey hall monitor type, but just of being a cheap-ass Scrooge. See, it was the Wal Mart part that I was getting at. Wal Mart is a place where everything is affordable, but everything is shit, and I hate to see that in the world of system mods. Mods should outlast the system.
...f*ck, this is tiring.
Anyone who does a mod for less than $100 is either a hack or are grossly underpaid. If I were looking for someone to mod my shit I wouldn't be looking for the lowest price and with as many NEC fans as there are paying $250 for games these days I can't imagine why they would be such penny pinching cheap-asses about something that is rather important and can leave you will a busted system if it isn't done right.
If you weren't so dense,
Damn. Seriously. Is this necessary? I'm a lot of things, but I'm not stupid. Neither of us are, regardless of how much you pay for TG-16 games. So lets stick to the point, OK?
...you'd notice that I've never said that a switchable region mod isn't worth the $60 as listed. I've clarified that what I originally meant was that it seemed silly to charge $60 for a switchable region mod while charging $50 to upgrade from a permanent region mod to a switchable region mod.
Yeah, but, that's you extrapolating a price from partial data.
You know that a mod costs $60. You know that he has two Duo Rs for sale. One perma-modded, and one real modded for a difference in price of $50.
However you don't know that he charges $10 for a perma mod. That isn't listed, or even offered. I understand how you could assume that he charges $10, but you don't know. There might be other factors, and I think there probably are. Hell, the perma-modded one might be scratched up or something.
For example, Apple charges $299 for a 32GB iPod Touch, and $399 for a 64GB one even though the cost of the labor to produce them is exactly the same, and the difference in the price of the part is probably $5, if that. They do this because the perceived value of the 64GB one is $100 higher in the minds of the customer. Up there I stated that a switch about doubles the work that goes into a Duo R mod, give or take. Since you and I both agree that a perma-mod is f*cking stupid I think we can also agree that it is
worth far less than a real switch mod regardless of the amount of work performed. IMHO it considerably devalues the Duo R below what it would be worth if left "stock", but that's beside the point. People charge what they can get.
Also, we don't know the whole story on these Duos. For example, we don't know what he would charge for a stock Duo R. $300 is a lot more than most people pay for a Duo, so the perma-mod probably adds more than $10 to the price of that Duo, and the one with the switch is worth even more, from his experience. Maybe he just has a perma-modded Duo R laying around and he thinks its worth about that much from his experience. You don't know because the bulk of the price is the system in this case, and not the mod. Anyone who has run a business knows that you have to move numbers around in ways that bring in customers, which often leads to selling two things at the same price but with enormously different profit margins.
Either way, please try to be less of an exploding insult machine, or at least save it for the a$$holes selling $50 obi strips. I was just trying to get you off this guy's back. I wasn't accusing you of being bossy, or insulting your technical knowledge. If you call modders crooks on this (very influential) forum it will likely be much harder for them to sell their services and the scene needs more good moders, not less. If his prices alone are the only problem then they will adjust as he learns what people want and are willing to pay.
Topic: Need help with Turbo Duo repair/region mod (Read 945 times)
