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Ace

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PC Engine flash cartridge question
« on: December 03, 2009, 02:51:32 AM »
I'm looking to buy a PC Engine flash cartridge, but I have a question.  Which of the currently available flash cartridges(Tototek, NEO) support System Cards, more specifically, the Super System Card?  I found this picture on Tototek's website showing a PC Engine Duo-R running the System 1.0 card on the Tototek flash cartridge, but I'm wondering if that flash cartridge or the NEO flash cartridge can be used as a Super System Card?  Or am I SOL and have to import a Japanese Super System Card(I have a region-modded TurboGrafx with the TurboGrafx CD, so playing Japanese HuCards is not a problem, not to mention the US Super System Card is crazy expensive)?

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 03:14:12 AM »
None of them can actually function as a super system card, as far as I know. Running system 1 or system 2 might be possible, but system 3 adds an additional memory bank to the system so a flash cart can't be used for that purpose.

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 03:44:58 AM »
A flash cart can be used as a system card, but only if the memory is already present in your system (i.e. - using it as a 1.0 card to play Altered Beast or as a 2.0 card to see SCD error screens on a Duo).  I suggest you skip the SCD card and go straight to the Arcade Card Pro (the Pro card has the extra 1.5mb of memory missing in non-SCD systems).  They're not much more expensive than a Super System card and you'll probably want it eventually anyway.
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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 02:35:35 PM »
Huh... last I saw on eBay, there were only Arcade Card Duos, but looking at the prices now, a Super System Card and an Arcade Card Pro seem to be about the same price.  I may go for the Arcade Card Pro instead of the Super System Card.

Are there any good Shoot-em-Ups for PC Engine Arcade CD-ROM?

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 02:40:46 PM »

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 02:43:35 PM »
Hell yes!  That's the kind of stuff I'm going for.  Thanks Nat!

I just remembered something: what's so special about Altered Beast that it ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES the System 1.0 card?

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »
It was designed before System 2.0 came out, and inadvertently contains a bug that causes it to freeze when run under 2.0.

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 02:23:16 PM »
All of this begs the question as to whether the TurboGrafx uses cards or cartridges.

A flash cart can be used as a system card...

So which is it, a cart or a card?  ](*,)

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 03:14:00 PM »
All of this begs the question as to whether the TurboGrafx uses cards or cartridges.

A flash cart can be used as a system card...


So which is it, a cart or a card?  ](*,)

This pic is from the back of my Turbo Grafx 16 box. It is not my opinion. This is NEC's opinion.  :D

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 04:10:39 PM »
All of this begs the question as to whether the TurboGrafx uses cards or cartridges.

A flash cart can be used as a system card...


So which is it, a cart or a card?  ](*,)

This pic is from the back of my Turbo Grafx 16 box. It is not my opinion. This is NEC's opinion.  :D

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Those are the same people who called HuCards "Turbochips". So which is it, a card or a chip? :wink:

Of course, that quote just as easily means that game cards 'make convenient cartridges a thing of the present'. It actually makes less sense as an endorsement of cards-aren't-carts, since obviously the "awkward carts" comment is meant as a swipe against the current competition which was present at the time. Also, game cards had been around for years in North America and were therefore also a thing of the past.
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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 04:41:59 PM »

Those are the same people who called HuCards "Turbochips". So which is it, a card or a chip? :wink:
You could be opening a major, major can of worms here black tiger...

But in all seriousness, TurboChipsTM is just a trademarked name that has nothing to do with the actual functionality of the game media. Clearly, the games are cards ("game cards"), which is why there is no such thing as a "system cart 3.0" for either turbografx or pcengine...


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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2009, 04:53:18 PM »
So which is it, a cart or a card?  ](*,)

It's a cartridge shaped like a credit card.  End of story.

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2009, 04:59:35 PM »
So which is it, a cart or a card?  ](*,)

It's a cartridge shaped like a credit card.  End of story.
Cartridges are bulky and clunky, unlike the game cards used by the TurboGrafx.

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 05:00:15 PM »
It's a game on a card, end of story. :P

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Re: PC Engine flash cartridge question
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 01:05:35 AM »
We already had this discussion here somewhere....but I don't remember what the majority vote was; it may not even have been resolved yet.

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