Space Fantasy Zone - No end in sight?

[nat]

I believe there must be a problem with the "retail" version.

Although, it'd be nice if someone would actually PLAY THROUGH the game and see if they get the ending since that's what I did. None of this skipping levels nonsense.

[cosmos99]

According to some people on an other forum ,all this is just silly and no interest, i was told "play the game without skipping levels and you'll see the end".... Those people for most received the game from the same batch,i just doubt someone really has beaten the game.

The interresting thing to do now is to compare the two programs and try to find where the problem is , i remember there was a slight difference with the two TOCS , the audio is of the exact same quality,i used an analyser(PC) for that. I should check the data track and something called the cuesheet , may be we'll find a clue ?

[nat]

Those people for most received the game from the same batch,i just doubt someone really has beaten the game.

What the hell? Seriously? The game is not really all that hard. I've beaten it a few times..... No ending, just a black screen.

[cosmos99]

No , the meaning was not they could not beat the game but have'nt beaten it yet at least i suppose.

[nat]

Ah, you are referring to the people on the "other" forum, my mistake.

If you're going to analyze the two discs, I believe the glitch would have to be in the data track somehow.

[cosmos99]

Yes i was talking about this other forum members. Yet analysing things would be of interest but remain the problem : why it works fine in an emulator In an emu there's no problem , why only with real hardware The truth is out there...

And curiously the anime4ever guy no more reply now.... does he fear a "bulk" refund ?  :-"

[nat]

It's really quite strange, and it's a pretty big flaw considering the price the guy charges for it. I'm not surprised he's stopped responding.

[cosmos99]

Sure. Do you have time and are you equiped to burn discs ? I noticed some difference between the 2 version , 2 audio tracks are shorter on the "retail"(tracks 6 & 7 - especially track 6) , also the TOC(table of content) is slightly different , it would be interresting to burn the retail with the proto TOC just to see ,and why not also the cue file , those are just 1 byte so could be sent by e-mail. I checked the 2 data tracks ,they are same length.If you're OK to burn , use Turborip first.

[cosmos99]

The guy just answered me , he was busy , he told me he would do some tests with different versions he has.

[esteban]

The saga continues...

Who will send me the prototype and "retail" discs so I can test this on a SuperCD-Rom2?   

[cosmos99]

The "retail" version is still for sale if you want it.

"retail"'s TOC is

Track 01 Audio 00:02:00 LBA=000000
Track 02 Data  00:49:65 LBA=003590
Track 03 Audio 01:14:72 LBA=005472
Track 04 Audio 04:33:14 LBA=020339
Track 05 Audio 06:09:70 LBA=027595
Track 06 Audio 09:23:65 LBA=042140
Track 07 Audio 09:28:67 LBA=042517
Track 08 Audio 09:36:47 LBA=043097
Track 09 Audio 12:54:06 LBA=057906
Track 10 Audio 15:49:25 LBA=071050

Leadout: 17:02:42   LBA 076542

(supposed) proto TOC is :

Track 01 Audio 00:02:00 LBA=000000
Track 02 Data  00:49:65 LBA=003590
Track 03 Audio 01:14:72 LBA=005472
Track 04 Audio 04:33:14 LBA=020339
Track 05 Audio 06:09:70 LBA=027595
Track 06 Audio 09:23:65 LBA=042140
Track 07 Audio 09:29:67 LBA=042592
Track 08 Audio 09:37:72 LBA=043197
Track 09 Audio 12:55:31 LBA=058006
Track 10 Audio 15:50:50 LBA=071150

Leadout: 17:03:67   LBA 076642

[nat]

It doesn't seem like a TOC inconsistency would affect anything but audio if the data track is identical and located at the same place in both. This is extremely strange.

[cosmos99]

I will try to burn different "mixes" between the 2 versions,one with the other's TOC for example , i want to know where the problem is. According to what the guy told me ,there's been no changes to the data track. May be just the fact to burn it again on another media would make it work ? This could be just the media , wich would explain why it works on a PC and not on a Duo Can you please show me your TOC nat ?

[cosmos99]

First test : changing the TOC , i'm not doing audio tests for now(remember the audio was corrected) , i've burned a RW and it's fine with magic engine , let's go for real test !

Done ! Still no ending...

Oh! I've forgotten the basic test: just burn the "retail" myself and see...

Result: no ending too !

What should i do now ? Changing the cue file ? Is it read by the cd player or is it just read by the burner ?

Well ,next step , changing the data track , it was supposed to be the same as prototype , all i know is that they are exactly the same lenght...

Result: guess what.... again no ending...

[nat]

The CUE file is only used by the burner as a guide as to where to place things on the disc. Try changing the CUE file in the "retail" version to match the CUE for the "proto," burn, and then give that a try on the real system.