Strider/Arcade Card

[hoobs88]

I recently picked up Strider Hiryu (PC Engine Arcade CD) and after placing it in my Turbo Duo with Arcade Card Duo in Kisado Converter, I received a comic book style error message. It was kinda cool looking but I wanted to play the game. Fortunately, I also have the Arcade Pro Card and it worked fine with that but I don't know why it won't work with the Arcade Duo Card. Has anyone experienced this with this game or any others?

[Necromancer]

I don't have Strider, but I've had similar problems with other Arcade titles.  In my case, the troubles stem from the card not being making contact fully and/or corrosion on the card, troubles which were solved by removing and reinserting the Arcade card in the converter.  I've had less troubles with my Pro card, though, so maybe its contacts differ in dimension ever so slightly, making for a better fit in the converter's socket.

[Tatsujin]

yeah, I would also say it is the AC DUOs fault.

[Joe Redifer]

Well the Arcade Card Pro has "Pro" in the title which is short for "Professional".  The Duo card is only for amateurs.  Professionals can be depended upon and that is why that card works.  Now doesn't that make sense?

[lkermel]

I've played Strider Hiryu with a Arcade Duo Card on my Super CDRom and it worked fine as far as I remember.
I've heard that some CD games don't properly work on the American Turbo Duo - but it sorts of make sense as the Arcade Duo Card only has memory in it (as far as I know) and no bios. So I assume that the bios from the Arcade Pro Card (system 3.0, correct ?) may be different than the one built-inthe Turbo Duo. But this is just a guess... oxidized contacts could also be the problem...

[hoobs88]

Thanks for the input and musings! I will probably test my Duo card with other Arcade games to see if it is the contacts or the card itself.

[Senshi]

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2104746

I've used this stuff for nintendo games that people said were broke. I took them and used this and the game worked fine, it just needed some cleaning. Hopefully this is all that's wrong.

[SignOfZeta]

The screen you are getting is the "you don't have an Arcade Card, go buy one!" message. So, its not seeing your Arcade Card. This is probably a contact issue, and its probably an issue with contact between the Arcade Card Duo and the Kisado, and not between the Kisado and the Duo. The Arcade Card Duo has, for some reason, its contacts in a recessed area and they do give problems.

[Tatsujin]

back in the days, I only had a US Turbo Duo. but sapphire as well strider worked fine with teh AC DUO + Kisado converter.

[geise]

back in the days, I only had a US Turbo Duo. but sapphire as well strider worked fine with teh AC DUO + Kisado converter.

That's my setup and I haven't really had any problems.  It has happened before but I just cleaned the contacts and all is well.

[termis]

I've heard that some CD games don't properly work on the American Turbo Duo...

Can this be confirmed by anyone?  As far as I know, not having the right system card (1.0, AC, GE) can be the only issue, and that doesn't matter whether its a US or a Japanese Duo.  (Unless there's a Japanese CD/SCD games that doesn't work with the internal US 3.0 system card?)

[SignOfZeta]

I've heard that some CD games don't properly work on the American Turbo Duo...

Can this be confirmed by anyone?  As far as I know, not having the right system card (1.0, AC, GE) can be the only issue, and that doesn't matter whether its a US or a Japanese Duo.  (Unless there's a Japanese CD/SCD games that doesn't work with the internal US 3.0 system card?)

Yeah, this is BS as far as I know.

[Necromancer]

(Unless there's a Japanese CD/SCD games that doesn't work with the internal US 3.0 system card?)

Don't listen to Zeta; he's wrong. 

The Japanese and US Super System Cards are indeed slightly different (versions 3.00 and 3.01, respectively), causing a few titles (A. III, Alshark, Bonanza Bros., SuperCD RPG Sampler, Shadow of the Beast, and perhaps others) to not work in a TurboDuo unless you bypass the internal system card with a PCE Super System Card or Arcade Card.

[termis]

(Unless there's a Japanese CD/SCD games that doesn't work with the internal US 3.0 system card?)

Don't listen to Zeta; he's wrong. 

The Japanese and US Super System Cards are indeed slightly different (versions 3.00 and 3.01, respectively), causing a few titles (A. III, Alshark, Bonanza Bros., SuperCD RPG Sampler, Shadow of the Beast, and perhaps others) to not work in a TurboDuo unless you bypass the internal system card with a PCE Super System Card or Arcade Card.

Ah, does it matter whether it's an Arcade Card Pro or a Duo to get around the issues you describe above?  (As I understand, the AC Duo still uses the main BIOS from the internal system....)

[SignOfZeta]

(Unless there's a Japanese CD/SCD games that doesn't work with the internal US 3.0 system card?)

Don't listen to Zeta; he's wrong. 

The Japanese and US Super System Cards are indeed slightly different (versions 3.00 and 3.01, respectively), causing a few titles (A. III, Alshark, Bonanza Bros., SuperCD RPG Sampler, Shadow of the Beast, and perhaps others) to not work in a TurboDuo unless you bypass the internal system card with a PCE Super System Card or Arcade Card.

Oh shit!

Come to think of it, I used to know that little factoid because I used to have the Super CDROM2 Sampler and the Tengai II portion of it wouldn't work on my US Duo. The other half, Dragon Slayer, I think, did though.