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King_Vidiot

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I can't do it.
« on: March 04, 2010, 06:54:58 PM »
I just can't do it. I can't beat Blazing Lazers.  I've been trying for days.  I get to the 9th (final) stage where you have to fight all the bosses again.  By the time I get to the second-to-last boss I have lost my shield (it always goes away even if I dont get hit), and then after I beat the boss, the wave after him where all the enemies come up the sides and then zoom at you in the middle always kills me.  Then you start over from the beginning of the killer wave, and it's impossible to last more than a few seconds without any shield or firepower.  I'm ready to jump out of my window. 

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 09:39:58 PM »
the wave after him where all the enemies come up the sides and then zoom at you in the middle always kills me. 

I highly recommend the Ring Blaster for that part.  It's also very useful against the Stage 7 boss--the first time you see him and then again in Stage 9.
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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 01:10:08 AM »
Funny, just the other day on here I was saying I thought Bazing Lazers was over rated for basically what you are saying. As long as you use the shield it is SUPER easy to get to the last stage, even if you've never played then the last level is tough! Esteban had some good tips, they are in the Spida1a reviews thread. I have not tried them yet myself cause I can't get up to want to play again right now.

I think shooters like Soldier Blade, Gate and Lords of Thunder, Aero Blasters and Super Star Soldier are much more balanced, it takes a little time and practice to even get to the last level and every level is pretty enjoyable where Blazing Lazers after the first couple plays gets boring playing through the first 8 levels then infuriating getting blown up on the 9th after I spent the time to get there.

I know alot of people love it but for me there are many shooter on the Turbo that are better.

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 09:25:51 AM »
Haha i was frustrated with the same part!! It took me quite a while and believe me I did plenty of ranting in the shout box!

Three tips:

1: Be persistent and don't give up, even if it takes several days
2: Try to relax and accept where the enemies come from and find a good position for your ship (the enemies always come from the same place at the same time every time you play the stage)
3: Don't get hit

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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 09:53:52 AM »
Dude, ignore these other posers.  The key to beating all those bosses is to move in as close as possible so that they die quickly.  If you're near the boss, then your shots hit him more quickly and he dies faster.
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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 10:16:19 AM »
3: Don't get hit

Simply brilliant!  Only the hand of Allah could ever deliver such adroit and cunning tactics.  :D
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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 10:18:32 AM »
I beat Blazing Lazers 20 years ago when I was 14.  Suck it up.  It's not like you're playing Karateka for the Atari 7800....

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 10:24:26 AM »
I beat Blazing Lazers 20 years ago when I was 14.  Suck it up.  It's not like you're playing Karateka for the Atari 7800....

I only have Karateka on my famicom, and boy is that game shit! Next thing you will be referencing my favorite terrible game of all time, Criticom on the Saturn.

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 10:47:50 AM »
I beat Blazing Lazers 20 years ago when I was 14.  Suck it up.  It's not like you're playing Karateka for the Atari 7800....

I only have Karateka on my famicom, and boy is that game shit! Next thing you will be referencing my favorite terrible game of all time, Criticom on the Saturn.

I only ever played one game on the Saturn.  Crusader: No Remorse.  This game did not leave a good impression with this gamer.  And to the Saturn, which I then dubbed "Shit-urn", I unceremoniously bid farewell.

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 11:43:13 AM »
"Shit-urn" ?!?!?!?  The Saturn is undeniably the best system of that generation.  The only system that comes close (and is arguably part of the same generation) is the Laseractive, but that's just because I am an idiot.

To stand up for Sega, I may have to get a SATURN 4 LIFE tattoo on my junk.

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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 12:28:02 PM »
PC-FX slaughters the Saturn. ;)

esteban

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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2010, 02:12:26 AM »
Dude, ignore these other posers.  The key to beating all those bosses is to move in as close as possible so that they die quickly.  If you're near the boss, then your shots hit him more quickly and he dies faster.

Well, he seems to be having problems with the waves of enemies, which kill him before he even gets to the bosses.

King_Vidiot, read my hints over on the TurboViews thread.

Basically, Blazing Lazers is designed to TOTALLY LET YOU ADVANCE during the "Boss Rush", but you have to use the "pea shooter with no shields" approach:
1. Some enemies can be avoided. LEARN.
2. Some enemies make your life difficult, if not impossible: LEARN how to dispatch them quickly (hint: you should use full speed + maneuver to counter their patterns "before" they are on screen)
3. I constantly adjust speed--it is part of my strategy--depending on my power-ups, the section of the stage, the enemy behavior (i.e. you mess up and have to deal with opponents you usually kill quickly)...
4. GET INTO THE GODDAMNED AWESOME MUSIC.
5. This final stage is one of the BEST examples of how a shoot-em-up (or any game) can create growing tension and excitement.  Music (double-bass!) + sound effects (those satisfyingly huge "mega" explosions!) + boss rush with incessant waves of enemies and the "occasional lull" to help you catch your breath ... all of these elements complement each other and produce a full cup of steaming AWESOME.

Hint: Additional hints are in the other thread...

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2010, 02:37:12 AM »
"Shit-urn" ?!?!?!?  The Saturn is undeniably the best system of that generation.  The only system that comes close (and is arguably part of the same generation) is the Laseractive, but that's just because I am an idiot.

To stand up for Sega, I may have to get a SATURN 4 LIFE tattoo on my junk.

And the Turbo Grafx, which I will love 'till my dying breath, was dubbed the "Terd-Blow Grafx"  I do this thing with names....

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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2010, 05:37:01 AM »
Just keep at it man.  Funny that the first time I ever played all the way through it was on ONE life and on the TE.  I was so proud I posted it on here!

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Re: I can't do it.
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2010, 04:56:31 PM »
Dude, ignore these other posers.  The key to beating all those bosses is to move in as close as possible so that they die quickly.  If you're near the boss, then your shots hit him more quickly and he dies faster.

Well, he seems to be having problems with the waves of enemies, which kill him before he even gets to the bosses.

King_Vidiot, read my hints over on the TurboViews thread.

Basically, Blazing Lazers is designed to TOTALLY LET YOU ADVANCE during the "Boss Rush", but you have to use the "pea shooter with no shields" approach:
1. Some enemies can be avoided. LEARN.
2. Some enemies make your life difficult, if not impossible: LEARN how to dispatch them quickly (hint: you should use full speed + maneuver to counter their patterns "before" they are on screen)
3. I constantly adjust speed--it is part of my strategy--depending on my power-ups, the section of the stage, the enemy behavior (i.e. you mess up and have to deal with opponents you usually kill quickly)...
4. GET INTO THE GODDAMNED AWESOME MUSIC.
5. This final stage is one of the BEST examples of how a shoot-em-up (or any game) can create growing tension and excitement.  Music (double-bass!) + sound effects (those satisfyingly huge "mega" explosions!) + boss rush with incessant waves of enemies and the "occasional lull" to help you catch your breath ... all of these elements complement each other and produce a full cup of steaming AWESOME.

Hint: Additional hints are in the other thread...


You understand this doesnt help me at all, right? I dont need a general strategy for how to play the game.  I just posted because I'm having trouble with one particular part of the final stage and wanted to hear what others thought.  Your post doesn't have anything about getting through this particular wave and the strategy for the boss right before it etc. 

I think my frustration came from what Obfuscate describes: the game is a cakewalk up until the middle of the final stage, when it suddenly becomes quite hard.  this is just bad game design. 

I figured out a strategy that works for me - basically switch from shields to the two "m" shooters right before the 3rd boss in the final stage, then use it all the way up through the second to last boss.  If you get hit by this boss you can take him out until he is almost dead, then just keep dodging his shots while power-ups regularly appear and you get a shield.