Backing up CD Games

[offsidewing]

Ok, so the search function in this forum is about as helpful as an abstinence program in a whore house.  So please forgive me that I grew tired of searching "19 percent matches" that are 4 years old to answer these questions.

My eight year old son is getting into the Turbo.  I want to back up games he enjoys playing like Dungeon Explorer 2 and Bonk 3 SuckyCD so he can scratch the daylights out of those like he does his Wallace & Gommit and Hiayo Miyazaki DVD's.

1.  What's the best process to back up CD games?  I have a DVD burner and a Blu-Ray burner on my 1 year old PC so I can do disc to disc.

2.  What's the best program to use to back up Turbo Games?

2a.  How do I do it?

2b.  Can I save the game data on my hard drive to poop out another copy when the back up inevitably becomes scratched?

3.  Is there blank media that is better quality than Verbatim? - there's some Japanese CD-R I can't rember Tayao Yupi or something that I obviously can't remember the name...

I just want to be able to back up my games.

Thanks

[nat]

Use TURBORIP if you need to rip an ISO copy to your hard drive for future use. If you just desire a disc-to-disc backup, you can use Nero or any other burning software.

If you TURBORIP a game to your hard disk, it doesn't hurt to run TOCFIX on the rip to make sure the .CUE file is in order.

I don't have URL links to these programs offhand, but I'm sure someone will come up with some quicker than me in that whorehouse you mentioned.

[Arkhan]

Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs, and Diamond Silverbacks, are the best (only) discs you should even bother using.   All them cheap ass dyed discs from bestbuy aren't quality.

They might say "high quality" and all of that, but the rickety, old ass CD-ROM units, and Duo's require the BEST quality CD-Rs

http://www.mediasupply.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-lacquer.html
http://www.gotmedia.com/prodisc-cdr-shiny-silver-diamond.html


If your computer can handle it (good luck), you can also use CDRWIN to rip a bin/cue from the CD.  Though, that programs kind of a bastard on new machines.
You can make straight copies of the discs with pretty much any CD copying software, just copy it at 1x for best results.

I've done it with Nero 7, Alcohol 120%, Disc juggler (crap), and some other program that I forget the name of.

http://www.ysutopia.net/index.php?ind=downloads&op=download_file&ide=8&file=TurboRipV100.rar

Thar be TurboRip

[offsidewing]

I use Roxio Blu-Ray and DVDFab.  Other than the click, click, burn those interfaces offer - I'm pretty ignorant with backing up media.  TOCFIX a rip on the .CUE sounds like a bunch of 'thrashers' talking at a skate park to me...

[Arkhan]

I use Roxio Blu-Ray and DVDFab.  Other than the click, click, burn those interfaces offer - I'm pretty ignorant with backing up media.  TOCFIX a rip on the .CUE sounds like a bunch of 'thrashers' talking at a skate park to me...

Well TOCFIX is "Table of Contents" Fix.

.CUE sheets are the table of contents.  Its a time-lined description of the contents of a CD.  You need it so audio is laid out properly.  Otherwise you'll have like a song start too early, or cut out, or not be there at all!

You can use TOCFIX to make sure that the files you rip are lined up nicely.

[Tatsujin]

and Duo's require the BEST quality CD-Rs

not to mention that cheap ass CD-Rs may destroy your PCE CD-ROM, or scale down its MCBF drastically!

[JapanTokei]

Good idea Darkwing.   I baby my otaku collection of games myself by making backup copies then sealing the games away with spine cards  and keeping them secured away..
 
I've found CloneCD is the best program for disc to disc copy that works perfect with Turbo/PC Engine CDs.. no need to worry about TOC and anything else..

go with Verbatim CDs.. good CDR blank media is getting harder to find these days though and getting replaced by DVDRs...

[Arkhan]

I've found CloneCD is the best program for disc to disc copy that works perfect with Turbo/PC Engine CDs.. no need to worry about TOC and anything else..

That is the other program I used.  It worked great.

go with Verbatim CDs.. good CDR blank media is getting harder to find these days though and getting replaced by DVDRs...

No.  Verbatim is not good enough.  Nothing you find at bestbuy/walmart is good enough.  Finding good ones isn't hard! I linked to two sources.  Hell, you can still buy 5.25" disks new!

You NEED the nice, near-pressed CD quality CD-Rs with almost silvery bottoms.  They might say "high quality" on the box of Verbatim, etc, but they aren't saying that with a 1x CD-ROM from 1987 in mind.

thicker, heavier, darker dyed bottom CD-Rs will slowly damage your hardware to the point of no return.

A friend got one, burned a bunch of games onto Verbatim and Kodak CD-Rs and 3 weeks later the CD-ROM unit croaked. 

[Tatsujin]

and Duo's require the BEST quality CD-Rs

not to mention that cheap ass CD-Rs may WILL destroy your PCE CD-ROM, or scale down its MCBF drastically!

 :idea:

[_joshuaTurbo]

personally for my kids to experience Turbo, I set up two soft modded Xbox's put MednefenX on them and used TURBORIP and TocFixer to play all the best Turbo CD games directly off the harddrive. 

Otherwise let them play your CD-r's on Magic Engine on an old PC or something....

I'm keeping CD-r's away from any Turbo CD's or Duo's in the future... THEY ARE CD-ROM KILLERS!!!

[Necromancer]

Go to NECstasy for links to TurboRip and TocFixer with tutorials on how to use 'em.

No.  Verbatim is not good enough.

Except for those made by Taiyo Yuden, of course; they've been rebranded by all sorts of other companies (Sony, TDK, Maxell, Fuji, etc.), though I unfortunately don't know how to identify 'em without sticking 'em in a drive.

personally for my kids to experience Turbo, I set up two soft modded Xbox's put MednefenX on them and used TURBORIP and TocFixer to play all the best Turbo CD games directly off the harddrive. 

An excellent plan, as it keeps the HuCards from being mistreated and safeguards the relatively fragile and expensive hardware.

[Arkhan]

Except for those made by Taiyo Yuden, of course; they've been rebranded by all sorts of other companies (Sony, TDK, Maxell, Fuji, etc.), though I unfortunately don't know how to identify 'em without sticking 'em in a drive.

I don't either, that's why I only get the actual name brand ones.  No sense buying the other brands on the off chance they're rebranded.

Another pretty solid plan, on paper at least, is to teach your kids how to take good care of CD-Roms!  Maybe get them started on cheap, useless CD-ROMs like your backups you make, or something.

I don't have kids so I don't know how much of a PITA is to teach these things... but I am thankful I was taught how to handle CDs when I was realllly young.

Otherwise my Sega CD, DOS CD-ROM, and PSX libraries may not be so shiney and useful now

[offsidewing]

personally for my kids to experience Turbo, I set up two soft modded Xbox's put MednefenX on them and used TURBORIP and TocFixer to play all the best Turbo CD games directly off the harddrive. 

Otherwise let them play your CD-r's on Magic Engine on an old PC or something....

I'm keeping CD-r's away from any Turbo CD's or Duo's in the future... THEY ARE CD-ROM KILLERS!!!

Is there a tutorial for this?  And is it an Xbox or and Xbox 360?  Either way, I have both and LOVE this idea.  The Turbo's and the Core Grafices are built like tanks, but the Duo's are a gentle, testy breed.

Except for those made by Taiyo Yuden, of course; they've been rebranded by all sorts of other companies (Sony, TDK, Maxell, Fuji, etc.), though I unfortunately don't know how to identify 'em without sticking 'em in a drive.

I don't either, that's why I only get the actual name brand ones.  No sense buying the other brands on the off chance they're rebranded.

Another pretty solid plan, on paper at least, is to teach your kids how to take good care of CD-Roms!  Maybe get them started on cheap, useless CD-ROMs like your backups you make, or something.

I don't have kids so I don't know how much of a PITA is to teach these things... but I am thankful I was taught how to handle CDs when I was realllly young.

Otherwise my Sega CD, DOS CD-ROM, and PSX libraries may not be so shiney and useful now

Children are the most destructive force on earth.

[nat]

It's odd to think that compact disc media didn't become widely used until most of us were already old enough to instinctively know how to handle it gently. I mean, the TurboCD system wasn't even released until I was almost a teenager. I definitely WAS a teen by the time the Duo came out, and those were basically the first CD-based game systems in the US. It was around this time my family got its first music CD player (sometime between 1990-92), so personally I never went through any sort of "too young to touch" phase with that stuff. And as I still don't have kids, I haven't experienced it from that end either. All this talk almost makes one feel.... old!

[Arkhan]

personally for my kids to experience Turbo, I set up two soft modded Xbox's put MednefenX on them and used TURBORIP and TocFixer to play all the best Turbo CD games directly off the harddrive. 

Otherwise let them play your CD-r's on Magic Engine on an old PC or something....

I'm keeping CD-r's away from any Turbo CD's or Duo's in the future... THEY ARE CD-ROM KILLERS!!!

Is there a tutorial for this?  And is it an Xbox or and Xbox 360?  Either way, I have both and LOVE this idea.  The Turbo's and the Core Grafices are built like tanks, but the Duo's are a gentle, testy breed.

You can soft mod it, but it requires a bit of knowledge and finesse.....

or you can do the mod-chip method instead.