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Pingu

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2005, 09:30:53 AM »
Well, I'm pushing 400LDs now and I can tell you that I'm not using my laseractive for just watching movies, I'm using my pioneer elite cld-99 for my ntsc discs and my old sony lasermax (found in LD arcade game cabinets) for my pal discs. My laseractive is used for playing everything PC engine, megadrive, mastersystem and yes gamegear as well. Going to be interesting to see if I can hook up a X32 to it as well. It is a highly versatile gamingmachine, not to that sadly only have composite out but my panasonic FT-2900 somewhat makes up for that.

Specs is not the only thing making a machine great.

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2005, 11:50:20 AM »
Cld-99s are nice,good players.Ever thought bout going for a X-9 or a Sony Muse?X models are supposed to read rotted disc extremely well.

I have 2 older players for arcade cab kit.I keep one here and one at my friends place.LDV 2200 here,and a LDV 4200 at my friends place.Both can be used fine for arcade kits.The Sony Lasermax players were pretty sturdy US wise,but not as good as the Pioneers.Sony always had a problem here or there,and couldnt make a ld movie worth a flip either in their US plant.Too much rotted disc by them.Really sucks.I have a CLD-D504,2 CLD-D301s,Sony MDP-605 but needs repair,has motor problem,CLD-V2800,LD-V6000A which reads disco vision fine,a LDV2200,LDV4200,A Panasonic LX-120,a Panasonic LX-200.I keep all of the players other then the MDP-605 and the LDV4200 here at my home.I hade a wonderful MDP-333 player,which btw the UK version of that player is supposed to be really nice too,but I chose to sell it,as it had problems locking down on Mitsubishi made disc,because of their smooth disc labels they used.There was a fix for it,but I dont like putting extra stickers on my disc labels.I had well over 150 disc years back,but Sony rotters and useless stuff I didnt want to keep made me downsize.I wont keep just anything on LD.It has to warrent a reason for being kept,by either being only on LD or VHS,have somethng the dvd version doesnt have,or just be a movie I really like.I dont like drama,comedy,or children movies.I only collect action with real actors,horror,sci-fi,anime,and dark comedy.I allow nothing else into my collection.That means no True Lies,Last Action Heros,Leathel Weapons,Lion Kings,Black Sheeps,or 3 Ninjas lds.I have alot of box sets too,Criterian stuff.Imports that you cant get here.Im about the only person I know of in the US with Outlanders anime imported on LD that is regestered on LDDB.And oddly I have 2 region pressings of Aliens Special Edition Boxset.I have a pressed in Japan,and Pressed in USA set.Slight differences,like mint marks,but both have the exact same speckle areas in the exact same parts fo the LDs,and I dont attribute this to rot like others may think.I am thinking more along the lines of Mitsubishi using scratched glass masters.It did happen now and then.I need to start listing stuff on th eLDDB more,but I dont have the time,with kid sand all,going from disc to disc,listing mint mark after mint mark,gets old.I used to want a Elite,but seeing it made no real difference on stuff liek Hardwares playback quality noise wise made me not want one anymore.There is a pretty good amount of ld collecters in Ark.You have to look to find them,but they are here.usually movie store workers and so on.A few I have talked to said to forget using aElite,stick to what I have,get a line doubler,and be happy.Considering a good line doubler has a way better comb filter then a Elite-97-99 I will prob end up doing that instead.Do you have any pics you can post of your Elite player going at it?Id liek to see some to see the quality on a poorly mastered LD,to see how it improves it.Most collecters here are like me,very strict,and dont keep average fliks,so nothing larger then 200 lds max,pretty much all good mastered stuff.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2005, 11:59:28 AM »
I heard/read that UK players/disc didnt do one of the audio modes either,digital,ac-3 or what,Im not sure,but I do remember reading that.Which is it?

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2005, 12:05:12 PM »
I dont have any pal disc because of the fact we got pretty much anything you guys did over there and more,so I could never find out if this was true or not.

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2005, 01:23:08 PM »
Older Disney movies rock, Lion King was kick f*ckin ass.

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2005, 01:23:46 PM »
The CLD-99 has a first generation NEC 3D Adaptive filter,which is basically why I wont spend that kind of cash on it.Back then it was worth it,but second and third gen filters are much better.Now you can get line doublers that do a better job for standard 3-line filter players for 400-600 bucks.I wish the US got a player laiter in the game then the 99,but thats how it went down.Japan got the best Pioneer decks in the end,costly,but the best.I alwasy liked Sony and Panasonic for offering really good high end decks for alot less then Pioneers price too.really the worse prob Sony had player wise was on some models had door jam probs.Thye could be fixed easy,but still sucked.

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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2005, 01:30:52 PM »
Well as for the video mod, I was thinking more on the improvement of the video game video output. Of course I know about the LD being in composite and 3D comb filters etc... Some people don't have TVs with the filters so in that case it wouldn't be too bad of an idea. Really the best bet for older TVs is to get one of those $100 composite to S-video splitters, that might atleast clean up the picture for older TVs. As for games, as long as you got an RGB output you can do anything with it just about. You could easily make a wire harness to hook into all the RGB outputs of the modules, just would take some time and hacks. I kinda figured the Laser Active wasn't all to great for LD since it was more focused on games.

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2005, 01:31:57 PM »
btw,what are you using to play gamegear games on Genesis?

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2005, 07:35:01 PM »
Quote from: "Michael Helgeson"
Cld-99s are nice,good players.Ever thought bout going for a X-9 or a Sony Muse?X models are supposed to read rotted disc extremely well.

Yeah, I've thought about it but they're insanely expensive, you can get a cld-97 or 99 for under $350 these days, no such luck with the above mentioned players. Still if I do happen to come across one at an afordable price I think I'm going to pick it up.

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I dont like drama,comedy,or children movies.I only collect action with real actors,horror,sci-fi,anime,and dark comedy.I allow nothing else into my collection.That means no True Lies,Last Action Heros,Leathel Weapons,Lion Kings,Black Sheeps,or 3 Ninjas lds.I have alot of box sets too,Criterian stuff.Imports that you cant get here.Im about the only person I know of in the US with Outlanders anime imported on LD that is regestered on LDDB.

Well, to each their own I supose, I happen to like some of those other categories as well. I admitt that my collection is a bit bloated right now, I usualy bulk buy them. And some of them are really to cheap to pass by, I mean renting some movie from a video store can be more expensive than buying some of these titles. If I don't like it, or they rot to pieces I can always take them down to the beach and play catch with them.:p
Outlanders, I did like the manga so I wouldn't really mind getting that one as well.

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Do you have any pics you can post of your Elite player going at it?Id liek to see some to see the quality on a poorly mastered LD,to see how it improves it.

You mean like running a segment with or without the filters activated? Hmm, no I supose it could be done, I could borrow a digicam and take some pictures but I'm not that sure they would come out good enough.

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I heard/read that UK players/disc didnt do one of the audio modes either,digital,ac-3 or what,Im not sure,but I do remember reading that.Which is it?

Right of the bat I can't really remember which one it is. As PAL has a higher bandwidth than NTSC PAL LDs only have one track for sound, either analogue or digital. Could be that as well.

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btw,what are you using to play gamegear games on Genesis?

I'm not really, just went to look at it and it was a master system to game gear adapter, not the other way around (which kinda makes sense as the game gear has a bigger colour pallete), my bad.

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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2005, 11:50:41 AM »
Lol,god I couldnt stand gamegears screen.Yea I consider my Panasonic LX-200,which I got dirt cheap,and almost new,to be my best player.It doesnt do AC-3,but does dual side,most of it is metal and thich plastic on the laser rail flip drive,very heavy duty!!! Has gold plated RCA jacks,rf in and out,s-video,and thick load tray,which isnt common,and has great noise reduction and sharpness.It doesnt clear off speckles as well as my Pioneer CLD-D504,but the overall image is sharper and noise wise cleaner.Def a A+++ player,too bad no one list teh specs for it on the laserdisc archive.

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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2005, 12:01:37 PM »
What disc do you use to test your picture quality movie wise?
I use Hardware to test noise reduction,because it has alot of it,Event Horrizon,because it has great blackness and sharp contrast,Armatage disc 3 for the ailaising edge test,because certain average players had probs with the armatage lds,and would have jaggies on this anime bad,and rainbow effect on the edges of certain things,why I dont know,but it makes a great test.For my audio I use Panther to test it.The bass on the audio is wonderful and deep in the music.
Anyway what do you use?

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2005, 02:28:54 PM »
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Older Disney movies rock, Lion King was kick f*ckin ass.

Aladdin kicked Lion King's ass though.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2005, 03:35:59 PM »
Bah,only Disney I have is Tron boxset,and The Rocketeer,and Snow White,because Snow White is morbid if you think about it.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2005, 06:52:47 PM »
Oh hell yeah, Aladdin is f*cking awesome.  I love that whole string of Disney movies that started with Little Mermaid and ended with Lion King, they're all awesome as hell.

I love their old ones too, up until the 70s they made some awesomely sweet movies and cartoons.

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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2005, 08:13:20 PM »
I don't really have any discs that I use for testing, usualy I loop the test picture thats after some movies for set up but that's about it.
Currently looking for an ADA ac3 rf demodulator, want to switch out my old one for one of the same brand as my surround system (using an old ada ssd 5.1, great piece of equipment) and I need to find a decent close caption decoder as well. I do have event horizon and could try with that one.