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nodtveidt

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2005, 12:54:26 AM »
Quote from: "zborgerd"
Also note the branding on the center ring.  It's a European CDROM fab company.

Could someone mention who it is? If they can press real PCE CDROMs, then they've got quite a few new clients coming their way. :D

Mike and Keranu: contacting Hudson is likely a waste of time...I've been attempting to contact them for years and have never gotten a response.

zborgerd

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2005, 03:04:13 AM »
Quote from: "nodtveidt"
Quote from: "zborgerd"
Also note the branding on the center ring.  It's a European CDROM fab company.

Could someone mention who it is? If they can press real PCE CDROMs, then they've got quite a few new clients coming their way. :D

Mike and Keranu: contacting Hudson is likely a waste of time...I've been attempting to contact them for years and have never gotten a response.


It's in our original thread on the subject:

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=737

The CD is branded "CARE4DATA", which could seems to be either a company in Zurich or in Benelux.

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2005, 06:01:02 AM »
Care4Data contact info below:
Company: Care4Data
Firm Type:  
Address: 75-77 rue des Freres, Lumiere, Z
City / State / Zip: Neuilly sur Marne F-93330  
Country: France
Main Phone: 33 1 58 02 05 05
Fax: 33 1 58 02 05 15
URL:  
Employees:  
Sales:  
Description: Magnetic & Optical Recording Media
Year Founded:  
Primary SIC:  
Updated: 03-FEB-05
this was all the info I could dig up.Anyone care to make a phone call?For that matter,anyway know how to accuse the French of bootlegging in french for that matter?

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2005, 06:03:28 AM »

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2005, 06:04:52 AM »

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2005, 06:06:51 AM »
http://www.care4data.ch/firma/index.htm
For what its worth,they may have 2 offices of operation.1 in Germany,one in France.

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2005, 06:07:28 AM »
Kontakt
 
 
 
Adresse Anfahrtsplan  
 
Care4Data GmbH
Elektronhaus
Riedhofstrasse 11
CH-8804 Au/ZH

Tel: 01/687 63 44
Fax: 01/687 63 47

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2005, 06:11:32 AM »
http://www.ecfgroup.nl/domains/default/pages/content.asp?content=12760000000231_0_10000000001651&basicsiteid=27
Its in english,and its a company buyig out alot of care4data plants I guess.They are into mastering,from what i have read,so yea,they can make Frozen Utopia a stamper if they wanted to.Key note here being"IF THEY WANTED TO". One can hope.

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005, 06:12:38 AM »
Company Name: Care4Data B.V.
Firm Type: International and Multinational Private company
Location: Netherlands
Phone: 31 17 246 3463
Fax: 31 17 246 3400
Web: http://www.care4data.nl
Email: info@care4data.nl
Employees (Company Information): 71
Revenue (Estimate): $28.00 M SALES
Fiscal Year End: 31-DEC-03
Primary SIC: Magnetic & Optical Recording Media
Primary NAICS: Magnetic and Optical Recording Media Manufacturing
Description: Manufacturing: Care4Data offers a full in-house CD production service including pre-mastering, pre-...
Last Updated: 29-MAR-05

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2005, 06:13:32 AM »
I think I gathered enough info for you guys on this.Im taking a break.

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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2005, 08:38:22 AM »
I cannot believe that you are even contemplating emailing Hudson who got out of the console buisness years ago.
Do you honestly think they give a flying f**k about whether a nine year old game is genuine or not???
Come on get real Hudson have bigger fish to fry!

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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2005, 08:44:36 AM »
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I cannot believe that you are even contemplating emailing Hudson who got out of the console buisness years ago.
Do you honestly think they give a flying f**k about whether a nine year old game is genuine or not???
Come on get real Hudson have bigger fish to fry!


I'm just surprised that this is even a topic of discussion. So obvious to me that its a bootleg.

Michael Helgeson

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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2005, 03:05:32 PM »
Hey,I think you 2 are missing the point here now,they do mastering,thye could make Frozen Utopia a knickle stamper,make disc,real pressed disc.If they can do Sapphire,they can do more.Think about it.Did you to both just miss all that contact info I just posted for Care4Data?

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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2005, 04:50:54 PM »
In response to this "i've read his auctions and talk to him via emailo a number of times. He even sent me photos of it side by side with an original. It would be REALLY cool if it were a "second run". But its not. Its a bootleg, and a bootleg that is fetching anywhere from $50-$75!!!! Bootlegs historically don't get much more than $10 no matter what they are. So even as a bootleg it is probably quite profitable for whoever produced these. The printed pieces are obviously taken from a scan and not original plates [the line screen pattern is a dead giveaway]. That alone makes it obvious. Why wouldn't hudson just reprint it with the original plates...it would be much cheaper for them to do that rather than make a "copy" for a second run. Its silly to hope these are legit, I'm sorry."
Hudson would not have kept the original plates around 3-4 years later,only the glass masters,or the collected data on hard disk.Most game companies do not,as the print info for covers,booklets and what not can be transfered in data now,scanned at high res,and backed up for later use for archival purpose or whatever.Whats worse,is most of the time they keep the game data on hard disc,not a glass master,or knickle stamper.This can be problematic too,case in point,Magic Knight Rayearth for Sega Saturn.The original data had been currupted and Wroking Designs had to rebuild the game basically because of this.They had no finalized working reference copy to use because of this,because of the choice storage method,which sucks.

nodtveidt

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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2005, 05:22:02 PM »
I'll definately be in touch with this company. Thanks for the info, Mike. The only thing I hope is that they're not using Eclipse...otherwise, this is going to be yet another company on the "cannot do it" list. But if they can, then we'll be doing all of our pressings there, and I'm sure BT and the gang over at MindRec will go there too, since they've been looking for a new pressing house for a long time now. There are a few other dev groups out there as well that would likely look into it.

It's only a matter of time before indie ACD games become widespread. :D