Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[SMF]

I can see if as a kid you owned that system and you still have it and you always wanted (insert game here) you pick it up. But just to own everygame on a NES, SNES, Sega etc is becomming a joke. Ill admit I wanna own every TG-16 game released and I don't see that as a problem. I still play and enjoy my TG-16 games to this day. I WON'T however spend $1000s on a game just because IT WILL COMPLETE MY COLLECTION.

[Senshi]

That's such a crazy investment. Even if each game is $1.00 for TG-16 and PCE that's still around $1000. Still a lot of money.

[Turbotracks]

Unfortunately for us true fans of the games and systems the late eighties/early nineties is what's "cool" in gaming now.  I am old enough to remember my parents buying a Coleco Telstar new from a local dept. store. I have no problem with the younger gamers playing vintage systems. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago I helped a 14 year old choose a couple of 2600 games at a local shop. I do agree that buying just to have every title is what's driving prices, and it makes no sense to me either. I admit, my goal is a complete US Turbo collection. I was three titles away about four or five years ago and I sold some and lost a lot to flood damage. Much of them will cost me an arm and a leg to replace now because of the industry, (sealed Hero Tonma, complete Bonk 3, and a few others I still miss having). I was hoping things like VC and MSL Arcade would lower prices but it did the exact opposite.  I still make time to play my Duo on a weekly basis, and yes, 75% of the games on NES were crap, even back then.

[PunkicCyborg]

I keep hearing people complaing  like it's all the new people and the kids driving prices up cause it's cool. I think it's the opposite though, I think it's the people who had it when they were younger and now have real jobs and money to blow on them now. I go on other gaming forums like Racketboy where there's a lot of noobs just getting into retro stuff that's all cool and new to them and those are the people praising the VC and emulation and mainly buying cheap carts.

[DragonmasterDan]

MY biggest thing is why go back to something from before you ever experienced it?  admittedly, like half of the reason I play older games is for the nostalgia, IMO most NES games are shit.

Well, as far as individual games go, I can explain that a bit. There's a lot of games I always wanted to play when I was younger, but being a child I didn't have the financial resources to obtain all of them. There's also another factor, there's lots of people I know who have games they have nostalgia for, or wanted to play. It's nice to be able to go right to my shelf and find whatever game myself or someone else always wanted to experience but hadn't.

So over time of using money I have put away for entertainment purposes I built up a complete NES collection. Not all of the games are great, but there's even fun to be had in having friends over and watching them struggle with Silver Surfer, or become frusturated as hell with Rocky and Bullwinkle.

With that said, when I finished my licensed US NES collection a few years ago, prices were significantly lower than they are now and I managed to find some very valuable games at dirt cheap prices allowing me to complete such a collection. But there is a reason to go back and play games and even systems you never experienced.

[Colossus1574]

This current topic can be a little concerning but quite interesting as well.
I find it's BOTH parties contributing to the "collectible resale" prices of these older games. You got the newer/younger crowd getting into collecting stuff they believe are the roots and part of the history of video games. And you also have the party who's enjoyed these games and consoles in the past and have now gotten a steady job and can pay some money to grab back some of those good feelings they enjoyed back in the day. And on top of that, you got the Ebay seller mentality of trying to get the most for their item...unfotunately there's not much we can do. Just hope gamers and collectors educate themselves with sites like "PCEFX" and not pay the stupid prices and drive the market up for no legit reason.

And I'M SORRY but i refuse to say that 75% of the games for the NES was crap...maybe 60% is more where i'd put it  :-"  I lived the whole rise and fall of the NES era, yes there were oodles of plain average games...but u still couldn't call them crap, haha.  30% were great titles, another 40% probably fell in the average category, then 30% crap?

I've actually never looked at tobias' site, what's the address?

http://ebay.hazard-city.de/sapp/xxx2.html

Err, i don't mean to offend anybody (maybe the guy selling these is a long term supporter of the TG16\PCE scene or whatever and is trying to help out guys newer to the PCE scene?) but what's the legitimacy of these supposed 25th anniversary releases? Are these just perfect copies of the original made via scanned box art and so on?

IE: is this copy of Saphire not much different then the copies that someone was selling on the forums here a few years ago? (can't remember who it was, but i think he stumbled upon 50+ copies of a duped Saphire but only sold them for $20 or something here...) sorry guys, haven't been around lately so can't quite recall 

The Sapphires given away for free here came from this same guy. I had known about him for a while before contacting him about getting a complete Sapphire bootie, then passed the word on to BlueBMW who ordered a ton of loose discs which he so graciously distributed here.

I can't comment on his techniques.

Thanks for correcting my memory Mathius 
Haha, my apologies to BlueBMW for confusing he was selling them when he was just charging for shipping 
Did those copies play perfectly fine? shit, guess i snoozed on those!

[tggodfrey]

Ask yourself this.........How many 25 and younger people have 1000.00+ for one video game? 

[bartre]

MY biggest thing is why go back to something from before you ever experienced it?  admittedly, like half of the reason I play older games is for the nostalgia, IMO most NES games are shit.

Well, as far as individual games go, I can explain that a bit. There's a lot of games I always wanted to play when I was younger, but being a child I didn't have the financial resources to obtain all of them. There's also another factor, there's lots of people I know who have games they have nostalgia for, or wanted to play. It's nice to be able to go right to my shelf and find whatever game myself or someone else always wanted to experience but hadn't.

So over time of using money I have put away for entertainment purposes I built up a complete NES collection. Not all of the games are great, but there's even fun to be had in having friends over and watching them struggle with Silver Surfer, or become frusturated as hell with Rocky and Bullwinkle.

With that said, when I finished my licensed US NES collection a few years ago, prices were significantly lower than they are now and I managed to find some very valuable games at dirt cheap prices allowing me to complete such a collection. But there is a reason to go back and play games and even systems you never experienced.

well, more my point was "why go back to before your generation?"
i get buying a game you never got the chance to play, but why go back to something you never heard of when you were younger?
for me, the NES is even hard to get into, let alone most of the atari stuff.

[Colossus1574]

well, more my point was "why go back to before your generation?"
i get buying a game you never got the chance to play, but why go back to something you never heard of when you were younger?
for me, the NES is even hard to get into, let alone most of the atari stuff.

Haha, yah, the Atari stuff might be harder to get into...but the NES? So many memorable characters came from this one console.
Hmm, some might argue the games are too basic or repetitive to revisit, but I'll always have time along memory lane for Mario, Link, Simon, Ryu (Hayabusa), Samus, Bill & Lance, MegaMan, etc.    Who knows, maybe i was just a Nintendo nut...

[tggodfrey]

I had the Telestar arcade when I was young (atually it was my fathers) and I cant see getting back into that thing!  Now his Oddysee 2.....yeah but not to spend much money on it!

[JapanTokei]

I'm  with the camp re:  going back to get games only of which I played/had exposure to.  For me that included the Famicom, Sega SMS, and TG/PCE.  Soem Genesis titles too but I was a bystander on that system, doggly standing by my doomed belief TG-16 was going to win the 16 bit wars, lols.  well they did in the end in the retro scene at least!!   

Even with just 3 systems, I find collecting for the sake of collecting can be neverending and quickly take up all the space in the house.  I focus on PCE now pretty much, and even that with my new son I'm forcing myself to not many duplicate hardware and software.. hence why I've been selling off my dups here and there.  Despite all that, I've built up a nice little collection that brings me a smile any day just looking at the games and all the memories associated with them and that's priceless.   (though I say "priceless" with a tough stance on uncontrolled binge buying... case in point 2 days ago I could have picked up a gem minty Madou Monogatari with spine and reg card for $173 (14000 yen), but ended up letting it go..argh, hope I don't regret it).     

[Necromancer]

I don't have a problem with younger guys getting games from before their time (whether you grew up with 'em or not, fun games are fun games); my problem lies with those that GOTTA HAVE IT NAO!, amassing a huge collection in a few months.  That's what's driving up prices, and it's not just the younger guys that lack patience.

[kakutolives]

I don't have a problem with younger guys getting games from before their time (whether you grew up with 'em or not, fun games are fun games); my problem lies with those that GOTTA HAVE IT NAO!, amassing a huge collection in a few months.  That's what's driving up prices, and it's not just the younger guys that lack patience.

pretty much this!
I am actually happy when younger kids try older games. God knows how annoyed i get when today's kids say that older games suck because of "zomgrafics"

[Necromancer]

$599 + $4 shipping for Keith Courage.  Please tell me it's a typo or something. 

[Turbotracks]

I laughed hysterically when I saw that Keith Courage mostly because of my recent participation in this thread. Had we not been discussing gouging I probably would just shake my head. BTW, as much as i love my NES I thought I was being generous by saying it had almost 200 good games.