Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[bob]

This business of no photos for Amazon items is a joke. I don't buy used games from there because I can't see the condition of anything.

Here here!  I took a risk and lost just this week.
Found the PS3 Castlevania Lords of Shadow Limited edition (double disc, hardcover book, bigger box, etc.) for $25 and shipped by a third party (not amazon direct).  I knew it was too good to be true...sure enough, it was.  They sent the standard edition.  Already returned.

I got a boxed copy of New Adventure Island for $35 off of amazon not too long ago.

Sweet find. I love when those things happen.

[monads]

That's a great score!!!

[Mzo]

I paid $7.99 for a new, sealed US JJ and Jeff on Amazon maybe 5 months back.

I opened it immediately =X

[jelloslug]

That's a great score!!!

  I fully expected it to be not right but I lucked out.

[DarkKobold]

I paid $7.99 for a new, sealed US JJ and Jeff on Amazon maybe 5 months back.

I opened it immediately =X

Nooooooooooo........

[pc_kwajalein]

It's not Ebay, but I wanted to know what the general consensus was on this.

http://videogamesareus.ecrater.com/p/16200185/gate-of-thunder-factory-y-sealed-w-pull

Even factory sealed, the price seems bloated beyond reason.

[Black Tiger]

It's not Ebay, but I wanted to know what the general consensus was on this.

http://videogamesareus.ecrater.com/p/16200185/gate-of-thunder-factory-y-sealed-w-pull

Even factory sealed, the price seems bloated beyond reason.

Factory sealed premiums don't add the same exponential value to games like the Turbo 4-in-1. If it was a complete game with insert and manual(s) sealed inside cellophane, that would be one thing. A true factory sealed condition for the Gate of Thunder 4-in-1 is a factory sealed TurboDuo, in which case the price would be appropriate. This is simply an incomplete loose copy.

[GohanX]

It looks like they may have the remains of tzd's stock, a lot of the games are the same.

[toymachine78]

It's not Ebay, but I wanted to know what the general consensus was on this.

http://videogamesareus.ecrater.com/p/16200185/gate-of-thunder-factory-y-sealed-w-pull

Even factory sealed, the price seems bloated beyond reason.

Factory sealed premiums don't add the same exponential value to games like the Turbo 4-in-1. If it was a complete game with insert and manual(s) sealed inside cellophane, that would be one thing. A true factory sealed condition for the Gate of Thunder 4-in-1 is a factory sealed TurboDuo, in which case the price would be appropriate. This is simply an incomplete loose copy.

They also packaged the 4in1 with Super System Card if you mail ordered it from tti

[Black Tiger]

It's not Ebay, but I wanted to know what the general consensus was on this.

http://videogamesareus.ecrater.com/p/16200185/gate-of-thunder-factory-y-sealed-w-pull

Even factory sealed, the price seems bloated beyond reason.

Factory sealed premiums don't add the same exponential value to games like the Turbo 4-in-1. If it was a complete game with insert and manual(s) sealed inside cellophane, that would be one thing. A true factory sealed condition for the Gate of Thunder 4-in-1 is a factory sealed TurboDuo, in which case the price would be appropriate. This is simply an incomplete loose copy.

They also packaged the 4in1 with Super System Card if you mail ordered it from tti

But did they actually package it up or just send an OEM version in the same mailing package? If it was the same as the TurboDuo version, then the mailing package would be the MIB box. I had my TG-16 repaired by NEC bitd and they sent back a new or possibly refurbished unit, complete with every that comes in the retail box. It all came in a generic mailing box though. I wouldn't try to sell that off as MIB/brand new/sealed. It's just as misleading as all the "complete" copies of the OEM Ys I & II. The PAL TurboGrafx ships a loose TurboChip in the box, but selling that along with the photocopy manual as brand new/complete is also misleading.

If the 4-in-1 seller was simply stating the condition as "still sealed" and offering it for the price of a mint copy, that would be one thing. But when he's charging $500 on an obscure site and using lines like this in his description, it's pretty crooked:

"THIS MAY BE THE ONLY FACTORY SEALED GATE OF THUNDER TURBO DUO GAME IN EXISTANCE."

"THIS MAY BE THE ONLY ONE OF THESE YOU CAN FIND."

"Shipping WELL CUSHIONED IN A BOX is $13.00 anywhere in USA with SIGNATURE DELIVERY CONFIRMATION and FULL INSURANCE."

Like I said in my previous post, it's not the same as a retail MIB game as far as premium value goes. It's still something many people would pay an extra $20 for, for the fun of tearing it open. That listing is trying to create a priceless collectible out of a functional game.

[toymachine78]

I didn't say the price was fair. I was just sating it could be sealed without actually coming with a duo.

[DarkKobold]

It's not Ebay, but I wanted to know what the general consensus was on this.

http://videogamesareus.ecrater.com/p/16200185/gate-of-thunder-factory-y-sealed-w-pull

Even factory sealed, the price seems bloated beyond reason.

I can't be certain, but it looks like that sticker/post it is under the wrap, on the actual CD, which makes this ANOTHER ecrater reseal.

Ecrater is a joke of seller on ebay. For as much as people hate on Video Grading Authority (VGA), they at least grade actual sealed stuff. Ecrater puts absolutely anything into a plastic case, self-grades (no conflict of interest there!), and sells things as "opened/brand new!" It isn't brand new if its opened, a$$holes.

I'm not giving VGA any credit, I think the whole sealed/grading thing is kinda stupid to begin with. However, if VGA were your local scumbag casino, then ecrater is the crackhead running three card monty in a back alley so he can afford his drug addiction. Ecrater is a politician that makes Chris Christie look like a saint.

[Necromancer]

Definitely a gouge job on the GoT, as are all the other games he's selling (some worse than others).

The PAL TurboGrafx ships a loose TurboChip in the box, but selling that along with the photocopy manual as brand new/complete is also misleading.

You sure?  There's a spot in the case for a complete jewel case and the guys selling 'em on eBay also have a bajillion "like new" complete unboxed copies of Blazing Lazers, so I assumed they belonged together.

For as much as people hate on Video Grading Authority (VGA), they at least grade actual sealed stuff.

They've been known to grade re-sealed stuff too.

[Black Tiger]

That may have been a step towards the final packaging design, but everything I've read over the years described exactly what I found after buying mine "new/sealed" years ago: at the bottom of the box was a loose TurboChip with a few 1:1 sized photocopy manual pages. I got Alien Crush and the other commonly mentioned title is BlaZing LaZers. I've seen sellers with lots of these units selling lots of loose "new"
TurboChips in sleeves. There may well have been any combination of complete/sealed-ness to the select games/products used for the test marketing. For incomplete games though, "like new" is the aporopriate description of condition and "incomplete" describes the complete-ness of games that were normally sold with other items.


VGA is one of the biggest sealed game scammers around. He doesn't cover his tracks well and buys up lots of like new games, reseals them and then sells them as factory sealed, guarenteed by decades of game collecting experience.

[bishopcruz]

Saw these, glad no one has bitten. But lord, who would buy these at these prices?