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Gentlegamer

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6450 on: November 04, 2015, 01:09:59 PM »
GSP also has another problem: they often repack your stuff into smaller package to make shipping cost cheaper.  Quite often they will not use enough padding or such, and someone bought a CIB Jack Bros for virtual Boy, got the cart only because the idiot threw away the box and manual to make the package smaller!!!  A nice $200 loss right there.

I go out of the way to not use GSP and make sure all of my listing does not have GSP enabled.  It may make things easier for seller but it hurts the buyer a lot.

That's a legal defense for murder.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6451 on: November 04, 2015, 11:37:03 PM »
File with who?  eBay considered my job done when I shipped it.  eBay also considers box and paper not important, only the actual content. So yeah they will throw away $200 box and manual to save $2.00 on shipping.  The buyer has to file complaint and this one did, he got a full refund and I still kept my money.

eBay forum has quite a nice number of angry posts (many that gets deleted, convenient) about how things never arrive the same way it was packed and shipped.  One person got a very valuable doll very wet and smelling musty. Like eBay sent the package swimming rather than flying.

If everyone who got stuff through GSP were to file complaint it's missing pieces and seller make clear statement it was complete when shipped, the GSP usually has to eat the loss and eBay would eventually see they are losing too much money and kill this.  So start complaining, even if you did get it 100% complete.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6452 on: November 05, 2015, 01:50:23 AM »
My one and only GSP purchase was a $200 baseball bat. It got to my house but it was shipped  in a triangular USPS shipping box with none of the bubble wrap or shipping material the original seller had packed it wth. The box was almost completely destroyed when it was delivered.

To further complete my experience, the postal service worker had left the bat and ripped up box lying beside each other on my porch. 

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6453 on: November 06, 2015, 02:01:47 AM »
Question....

Buying broken consoles and then fixing and modding them. While still trying to make a profit even if small.

Would that be considered flipping or trying to spread the joy of Obey? Speaking of NEC consoles only.
I buy broken systems and fix/upgrade them all the time and I dare anyone to call me a gouger. I could easily get 50% or more for them but I don't because I want people to get them that want to play them, not lock them away in a plastic box.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6454 on: November 06, 2015, 02:10:06 AM »
Depends on how high your markup is.

A broken system is inherently worth less than a working one. So fixing it, adding a charge for your labor, inherently makes it worth more. After that, it's all a matter of how high do you wanna go in reselling ? $1000 ?? $500 ? There are ranges that'll separate you from "For the love of Obey!" versus "For the love of flipping it!"

If you give people good prices, they're not gonna complain...

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6455 on: November 06, 2015, 08:28:05 AM »
Depends on how high your markup is.

A broken system is inherently worth less than a working one. So fixing it, adding a charge for your labor, inherently makes it worth more. After that, it's all a matter of how high do you wanna go in reselling ? $1000 ?? $500 ? There are ranges that'll separate you from "For the love of Obey!" versus "For the love of flipping it!"

If you give people good prices, they're not gonna complain...
I sell a referbed TG-16 with the RF jack replaced with a stereo AV jack (same as the Genesis 2), an AV cable, power supply, controller, and three games for $150 shipped.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6456 on: November 06, 2015, 08:43:28 AM »
The other thing too is, he's going for a simplistic definition of flipping.

Somebody who can repair these consoles has to buy them in order for them to get back into the general game-playing public's hands. Most gamers can't repair these consoles which need full capacitor replacement, and possible CD laser replacement in the worst cases, so unless somebody comes along who has all the skills needed, most of the public will not buy broken merchandise obviously...

That's not quite the flipping of snatching up working items, hording them, and waiting for low supply to drive prices upwards, then reselling when going's hot, etc. A firmer definition of "flipping" is with the negative connotations of max gouging/profiteering. Every seller (well, most, in principle) you see on eBay bought the item lower somewhere, from the manufacturer or somebody else, and is effectively reselling/flipping. But are their markups reasonable/respectable is the thing (which is all relative to your judgement) ?

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6457 on: November 14, 2015, 01:06:12 PM »
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=331702623544&alt=web

Just spied this randomly while browsing for deals.  Anybody that wants it, you've got about 16 minutes.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6458 on: November 14, 2015, 01:17:37 PM »
Buying broken systems, refurbishing and modding them, is not "flipping."

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6459 on: November 16, 2015, 03:54:24 AM »
Buying broken systems, refurbishing and modding them, is not "flipping."
Unfortunately, some people here think it is...

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6460 on: November 16, 2015, 04:08:50 AM »
Well, I have already posted two of my systems in another thread in the sales section.

Basically the good condition machines I will try for a small profit but the ones that were junk that are fully restored I will try to sell at cost or even at a slight loss. I know there are others on these forums that do this what seems like full time. I just wanted to take a stab at it and see how feasible it is to buy junk, non working consoles and make them work.

Out of seven consoles that I bought. Most all of them had non working cd-roms, a few had no sound and two of them were scavanged from. I have four working out of those seven so far and I am confident the other three will work just fine once I have a bit more time for them.

I think the biggest hurdle is the learning curve for me. Bad decisions or not knowing some things may have increased my cost of restoring these machines. But you won't learn by not doing anything. So... As I said, any machines I list will most likely be at cost even if it seems a touch high. Only for the fact it's what I have invested in them minus my time for actually working on them.

In the end, flipping or not, another good, restored console is a good thing.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6461 on: November 16, 2015, 04:14:41 AM »
Well, I have already posted two of my systems in another thread in the sales section.

Basically the good condition machines I will try for a small profit but the ones that were junk that are fully restored I will try to sell at cost or even at a slight loss. I know there are others on these forums that do this what seems like full time. I just wanted to take a stab at it and see how feasible it is to buy junk, non working consoles and make them work.

Out of seven consoles that I bought. Most all of them had non working cd-roms, a few had no sound and two of them were scavanged from. I have four working out of those seven so far and I am confident the other three will work just fine once I have a bit more time for them.

I think the biggest hurdle is the learning curve for me. Bad decisions or not knowing some things may have increased my cost of restoring these machines. But you won't learn by not doing anything. So... As I said, any machines I list will most likely be at cost even if it seems a touch high. Only for the fact it's what I have invested in them minus my time for actually working on them.

In the end, flipping or not, another good, restored console is a good thing.

Agreed having more working units out there is a good thing for everyone.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6462 on: November 16, 2015, 07:59:03 AM »
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/8-Turbo-Grafx-16-Instruction-Manuals-3-Inserts-Lot-Turbo-Duo-/252172581118

Am I the only one that thinks the DE II and Bonk 3 manuals in here look like printouts?
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6463 on: November 16, 2015, 08:25:49 AM »
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/8-Turbo-Grafx-16-Instruction-Manuals-3-Inserts-Lot-Turbo-Duo-/252172581118

Am I the only one that thinks the DE II and Bonk 3 manuals in here look like printouts?


Could they just be faded??

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #6464 on: November 16, 2015, 08:33:51 AM »
Faded in bands?  No.
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