Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[Medic_wheat]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn

Blah. MM8.



I already have MMX4

[KingofGames]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

You can buy this one for $110.

http://item.ebay.com/322161725106

Oh wait, it actually sold. :-/ But good luck finding it for $50.

For the record, you can pick it up for the PS1 under $10:

http://item.ebay.com/152218325948

But where's the fun in owning the common version of the game, right?

[sirhcman]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn

Blah. MM8.



I already have MMX4

Well good luck. I found my CIB MM8 on Saturn last year for $110 so deals can still be found if you are patient!

[Medic_wheat]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn

Blah. MM8.



I already have MMX4

Well good luck. I found my CIB MM8 on Saturn last year for $110 so deals can still be found if you are patient!

Will do. I can always wait for someone on a forum to sell or look for trade towards MM8 SS. It's not a priority.

[jonebone]

This guy really knows how to build a straw man. 

Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.

Obviously I understand how ebay works, but I'm not willing to dismiss all BINs as irrelevant.  Is that really so hard for you to understand?

I'm not dismissing all BINs as irrelevant either, just significantly undervalued ones.  They probably listed it on year / two year ago pricing and hadn't kept up with the market.  I know there's plenty of items I own where I see what they are selling now and can't believe it myself. 

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

You're trying to use your lack offers as proof of Impossamole's value, but that's nonsense.  There's plenty of other factors in play: the odds of many resellers seeing your request in this particular thread are slim to none (especially over such a short period of time), we're not sitting on piles of duplicates just waiting to be sold, few are willing to sell anything and everything out of their personal collections if someone would only offer the right price, and some people wouldn't sell to you no matter what.

How is it nonsense?  I have a $100 offer that is unfilled demand, and if it appears on eBay again I'll be bidding.  I probably wouldn't bid exactly $100 because I'm cheap and like to get a good deal, but I'm sure I'd go $70/$80.  Now, perhaps once I obtain a copy, no one else is "dumb" enough to pay that and price would drop.  But until that happens I'm confident value is not as low as people would think.

Also, worth noting that box condition does play a factor.  You could argue that $125 is more of a Excellent to Mint price, maybe $60 is price with a totally trashed box and Very Good is somewhere in the middle.  Price does need to be taken with a grain of salt... though my initial comments are just stating that $125 on a Excellcent fully complete copy isn't ridiculous in the current market.

[Gentlegamer]

Your idea of "current market" is a self-fulfilling wish.

A real market has offers and bids, and changes from auction to auction. An offer ("low" BIN) that is lifted is just as much part of the market as anything else. I know you think you're keen on markets and sniping "undervalued" stuff to flip, but all you're doing is acting on low information buyers and selling them your "current market" story.

You're running into resistance here because we actually understand the whole market and are not the usual low information, impulsive collectards you're used to dealing with.

[KingofGames]

You're running into resistance here because we actually understand the whole market and are not the usual low information, impulsive collectards you're used to dealing with.

What does this even mean? How are you immune to what games are currently, actively selling for? I would like to purchase a copy of Super Star Soldier for $30 and not a penny more. How do I avoid being an impulsive collectard and make this happen?

[bob]

You're running into resistance here because we actually understand the whole market and are not the usual low information, impulsive collectards you're used to dealing with.

What does this even mean? How are you immune to what games are currently, actively selling for? I would like to purchase a copy of Super Star Soldier for $30 and not a penny more. How do I avoid being an impulsive collectard and make this happen?

You are an odd cat.  Reading through your post history, I'm not sure what to think. 
Granted, many of them are old, but it kind of adds to my confusion.

[KingofGames]

Not that odd, actually.

[esteban]

Such a shame that the game is sealed. It should be played and enjoyed, even though it is an average game that no one really wants to play.

I have had the thrill of experiencing Darkwing Duck pogo around on my TurboExpress whilst playing my opened, second boxed Darkwing Dunk.

[Gentlegamer]

You're running into resistance here because we actually understand the whole market and are not the usual low information, impulsive collectards you're used to dealing with.

What does this even mean? How are you immune to what games are currently, actively selling for? I would like to purchase a copy of Super Star Soldier for $30 and not a penny more. How do I avoid being an impulsive collectard and make this happen?

You purchase it from Black Tiger on this forum like I did recently: https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=20685.msg469850#new

Of course, Black Tiger would have to have been willing to sell to you in the first place.

[KingofGames]

So I just need a time machine, huh? Besides that, what other tricks can I use?

[KingofGames]

Such a shame that the game is sealed. It should be played and enjoyed, even though it is an average game that no one really wants to play.

I have had the thrill of experiencing Darkwing Duck pogo around on my TurboExpress whilst playing my opened, second boxed Darkwing Dunk.

Ah, so you are one of them hoarders who doesn't want to allow others to experience the sheer joy of mediocre gameplay? I gotchu, I gotchu..

[esteban]

So I just need a time machine, huh? Besides that, what other tricks can I use?

Use your royal charm, comrade. 

You do realize that posting in the other threads, or starting your own, where you share thoughts on *playing* any game (at this point, I don't care if it is TG-16 related or not) will be much more productive, correct?



Seriously, we have been through this a million times in the last 15+ years...

[Gentlegamer]

So I just need a time machine, huh? Besides that, what other tricks can I use?

That was three weeks ago.

I don't think I'm going to spoon-feed you anything else if you can't figure it out on your own.