Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[mrhaboobi]

 And screw the virtual console; sorry to break it to you but paying for emulation is like paying someone to let you breath air. Just download the ROM for free if you are going to go that route. Or save all the money you'd be spending on the VC and buy a flashcart for your TG-16 or whatever other system you like. Or buy a modded Xbox and load it with every ROM for every game system up until the 32-bit era and be done with it. You'd never have to buy another game again!

cant say i agree with that approach..  i dont want to jump on the piracy band wagon, but if you cant afford the us version then BUY the jap or virtual console versions.. Flash carts are great for those of us who OWN the game and cant be bothered getting them out of the cupboard when we have to switch to a different one.  point being WE OWN THE GAME

[vestcoat]

OrangeArmy - OK, I understand we're you're coming as far as collecting. IMO, the prices are generally prohibitive these days, but CIB does have a certain appeal if you find it cheap and if you grew up with this stuff.  Personally, I'll pay an additional, I don't know, 20% for a game in its box if I'm feeling nostalgic.  For example, I recently bought Dragon Warrior 4 loose because I'm not going to pay $100 for a box, but I grabbed Hillsfar CIB for $30 because it's a $25 game and I'm a D&D nut. Also, taking stuff off the market permanently is cool if you're going to play it - the purpose of this thread is to bitch about those who do the opposite (reselling and/or not playing).

I gotta say though, it's a really funny coincidence that you've not only happened to buy multiple ebay listings that we've bitched about in this thread, but that you've been lurking, reading, and internalizing our complaints until you finally blew up on your first post.  It's a strange way to say "hi", but now that you're here, go post in some of the other threads!

Nickleback sucks, but I don't have any hard feelings otherwise.

[kakutolives]

OK, I was debating all day while reading this at work as to if I should post in this argument. However, several things made figure I say something.
@OrangeArmy :
First of all, welcome to the forum. Second, I noticed you say that you do not have the "time to build cred" at this forum. I really do not think any cred is needed at all. Simply asking at the sales thread made it abundantly clear how painful some of the prices are on ebay by contrast. As for the cred part I got 2 sapphire boots for free(one for me and one for my friend) with literally 1 post on the day I registered here. Yes, people here are that f*cking awesome. As for the reason people are so miffed at the fact that prices are insanely high on ebay, one need to look no farther than good sellers like Samurai Ghost for a quick comparison. Every single sale he does here is done with being considerate in mind. I had to do 0 "cred" crap. I asked, people here offered and so far every single deal I have done here makes ebay look weak by comparison.

@King of Games :
While I understand that making profit can be a motivation for people looking to do a quick buck, there is a line where morality should take charge after a certain point.  Now when it comes to the gouging portion of this argument, I am no one to judge. Just keep in mind that you are doing a disservice to gamers everywhere by driving the prices of games up (this also goes to people that buy shit at ridiculous prices)

[OrangeArmy]

Stalwart advocate meaning back in the day I was the only kid I knew who owned a TG and ever defended it's awesomeness, tried to promote it and expose my friends to it. I always wished there were other kids around with one so we could trade games, talk about how great it was and what not. Finding a whole site with NEC console fans blew my mind!

I completely understand the scourge of resellers coming in here and basically gaming the well intentioned, often generous fan community to make a quick buck, and I agree that shit is LOW, but not every new guy fits this bill.

I don't understand the hate for collectors. Most of us are gamers too and in my case I'm not interested in sealed. Games are for playing. That said, I kept my 8 original games I've owned since childhood in immaculate condition (box and all). I used to go to the game store and study the box art (of all the titles I'm finally able to add to my collection after all these years) for what felt like hours, wondering what each game was like and which one I would choose to be my Christmas present. Looking at those boxes, I imagined and played each one in my head many times over. I enjoy the nostalgia and sense of accomplishment that holding a boxed TG game I've finally earned and added to the shelf brings. If I had the money 10 years ago to get this stuff cheap, believe me; I would have.

I've been called out in this thread many, many times for past purchases (Soldier Blade, Neutopia 2, Ghost Manor, Shockman) but those games were worth what I payed for more reasons than (I'm retarded, I'm a trendy retro hipster, I got mommy's credit card, I'm a reseller, I'm cobbling together a collection with my student loan) so I feel like a lot of the hate I see over and over in here is misdirected and partly a symptom of crowd mentality. If I'm going to get flamed before I even post because I'm a 'collector' then f*ck you all, you elitist dicks - is kind of the mentality in my first post.

Crowd mentality LMAO.....you've been lurking here over a year, and haven't figured out that people say what they feel, and have the brains to think for themselves?


"If I'm going to get flamed before I even post because I'm a 'collector' then f*ck you all, you elitist dicks - is kind of the mentality in my first post."

It's not because you're a collector, as much as you defend overpaying due to being stupid/impatient, and respond like a mongoloid 3rd grader.

Just becasue you don't value the item, or the box for that matter any more than some number you have in your head, dosn't mean I over payed. Sure, I payed a lot for an uncommon luxury item but then you could say anyone who's ever shelled out for any luxury item is stupid and impatient. I've seen a boxed Soldier blade appear on ebay exactly twice in the last 3 years. That's partly because I'm on Canadian ebay so I have access to a lot less of the stuff than an American would. Anyways, you do yourself a disservice writing me off as an impatient idiot. I'm always looking for the mythical reasonably priced TG16 games, but I'm not going to wait for ever. Hate to break it to you but this pricing bubble is not going to burst. Its a simple supply/demand scenario. What is a better indicator of an objects value than a 99 cent auction? Oh, right...the price in your head lol

[nectarsis]

Seeing as there's nothing stopping you from using the US Ebay, your point is moot.

Funny this constant "bubble will never burst" is ignorant..at best.  EVERY pricing bubble bursts at some point, plus many of us have GREAT collections (including OMGZ SOOOOOOOOOO PRICEY RAREZ) without overpaying (and yes on ALL the titles you listed you got hosed $ wise).

Prices in in our heads??   Seems like someone is desperately clinging to Nintega logic "I NEVER find deals/you guys are SO lucky/these prices just don't exist" etc. etc. 

P.S.  If you pretty much stick with Ebay you're missing out on many, many, many good deals.

[Arkhan]

[Sadler]

Alright, pretty sure Necro scowls every time I post in here, but it's been long enough that I'll pipe up again. First, yes, watch this board and you'll find great deals, hard time find items, and stuff you simply can't get anywhere else. Second, there's a hierarchy in my mind of people that buy these games. In order of respect:

a) Old school fans with a deep love of the system who actually play the games they buy
b) New school fans with a deep love of the system who actually play the games they buy
c) Old school fans with a deep love of the system who collect who buy the games, but rarely, if ever play their collection
d) Resellers.

Anyway, I've got nothing but respect for (a) and (b). Truthfully, I don't care what you guys pay for a game, I'm just happy to see people enjoying the system. (c) I respect, but I can understand the disdain for. You are pulling games out of circulation and that sucks. (d) we've got problems. If the only thing you care about is flipping a title you got a couple months ago for a 10x profit, you suck. You are just inflating the price of games.

Sadly I've been more (c) than (a) recently, but I'm turning that around. I've recently picked up some incredibly awesome PCE and US titles I've not played before and I'm really enjoying them. The past couple months I've been weak on actually playing the games I own though. I'm not proud of that.

EDIT: I haven't given up on LoX either!

[Arkhan]

PLAY PCE OR GET THE f*ck OUT.

[OrangeArmy]

PLAY PCE OR GET THE f*ck OUT.

What stopped me from using US ebay in the past has been international shipping restrictions. A lot of the nice turbo autions and especially quick catch bins are only open to continental US states excluding Hawaii and Alaska. I've recently found a great package forwarder but there's still a surcharge to consider.

PCE intimidates and is alien to me. Never got into emulators or wiiware and I still play on my original 23 year old console with one I found on clearence for $20 in the mid nineties on hand for back up. I'm having fun slowly finding the 50 or so US HuCards I want to replay or experience for the first time in my library (TV sports and the like, no thank you). I have no experience with the CD stuff never owning one or knowing anyone with one and thus never playing one. The cost of entry has always been high and so I have to admit I've never played it. I really want to, but I'm a patient man and there's a lot of other great game systems that need to be played also.

Necro, sorry for derailing your thread.

[PunkicCyborg]

One of the last copies of US Soldier Blade sold here with Hu card and manual for $60 so you'r $300 copy is some pretty expensive cardboard

[KingofGames]

You wanna see expensive cardboard?

http://item.ebay.com/290690633965

Without DK Jr Math, probably would've sold for a couple hundred.

[OrangeArmy]

One of the last copies of US Soldier Blade sold here with Hu card and manual for $60 so you'r $300 copy is some pretty expensive cardboard

True, but this is a close knit community where fans look out for each other as opposed to an environment representative to all consumers for whom the barriers to entry are location, membership and trust. Were that game to be posted on ebay at a 99 cent auction open to the entire world market, it would fetch a great deal more.

[Samurai Ghost]

One of the last copies of US Soldier Blade sold here with Hu card and manual for $60 so you'r $300 copy is some pretty expensive cardboard

True, but this is a close knit community where fans look out for each other as opposed to an environment representative to all consumers for whom the barriers to entry are location, membership and trust. Were that game to be posted on ebay at a 99 cent auction open to the entire world market, it would fetch a great deal more.

Sure, it would. But a few of us would rather just sell our extra games for a reasonable price directly to other fans then to someone who will just take the same game and sell it to a reseller, who will sell it to a reseller, drive up prices, etc. If you stick strictly to eBay you can probably make more money, but this is a PC Engine/TG-16 fan site, not a How to Make Money on eBay site, so a lot of us care more about the community and actual gaming than making an extra $20 or whatever on a game. I'm not trying to say that making money selling games is necessarily a bad thing, but you're not going to much of a positive reaction on here detailing how much money you made flipping a game you bought a few weeks ago.

[SMF]

You wanna see expensive cardboard?

http://item.ebay.com/290690633965

Without DK Jr Math, probably would've sold for a couple hundred.

So far every game you've shown to prove your point people pay dumbass prices for cardboard are old NES games when every kid including myself tossed the box. So the few that did survive are rare. But TG16 boxes aren't rare to me. In fact I gave my Shockman cardboard to my kid to cut up for a collage. I didn't care I know I could have made a $100 off it but to me its just cardboard.

[tggodfrey]

You wanna see expensive cardboard?

http://item.ebay.com/290690633965



Without DK Jr Math, probably would've sold for a couple hundred.

So far every game you've shown to prove your point people pay dumbass prices for cardboard are old NES games when every kid including myself tossed the box. So the few that did survive are rare. But TG16 boxes aren't rare to me. In fact I gave my Shockman cardboard to my kid to cut up for a collage. I didn't care I know I could have made a $100 off it but to me its just cardboard.

Holy crap we are getting old......