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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2655 on: July 16, 2012, 05:46:08 PM »
The logic is that this thread is for a group of like-minded people that hate gougers and have written one-hundred-and-seventy-seven pages of rants bitching about gouging. The "illogic" is that a lone wolf walks into this hornet's nest every two weeks and tries to argue with us.

Sure, people in the U.S. love to imagine that there are "two sides" to every argument, but that doesn't mean the other side should be given any credibility (holocaust deniers, fracking proponents, etc.) or that the venue is appropriate for debate (why I don't go to Tea Party conventions).

As for Storino, one of his first posts was defending reselling by comparing it to gambling and the thrill of trying to get your money back, "and then some." He's said his piece, and it's time to take that logic somewhere else.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2656 on: July 16, 2012, 07:19:12 PM »
Nah, that was just shedding some light on what they (the resellers) are probably wanting to do because they got shafted on what they perceived was a good price.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2658 on: July 17, 2012, 01:49:35 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-90s-game-Ginga-Fukei-Densetsu-Sapphire-for-NEC-Turbo-Duo-/221069529496?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3378c55198

Sapphire bootie for 250.00????  Wow.


His eBay ID says he's in WA. Wonder if he got it through this forum from Blue? Let's find out who he is so we can ban him.  
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2659 on: July 17, 2012, 02:11:28 AM »
Resellers on ebay are doing just that.  Buying games and trying to make as much money as possible on them.  If they weren't they would have Buy it now prices that were realistic for a 20 year old game.

Paying 3 times what the game cost new is a damn joke and many of us have been (stupid enough) on the bad end of that deal.  Here is another concept people in all hobbies cant seem to understand......you cant get your money back, this isnt real estate or the stock market 401K, you take a loss based on ownership and the cost of doing business (shipping ect).

Part of me cant wait till the day I decide I dont want some of the games I have that cost way too much so I can get on ebay, create an auction that states I dont want the game and its being sold locally for 40.00.  Then actually hand it to a local member here for just that price.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2660 on: July 17, 2012, 04:59:28 AM »
Uh, wow. Actually, his post was fairly logical. Yours was "We have our opinions, don't participate unless you agree."

Where is the logic and sensibility there?

Riddle me this, Batman: what's the logic and sensibility of coming into a thread about gouging just to repeatedly tell us that there's no such thing as gouging, as there's always some chump that thinks it's worth it?  It's readily apparent that the people charging and/or paying ridiculous prices don't agree that the prices are out of line (else they'd adjust their prices), and pointing out such unoriginal thinking is about as useful as telling us that the sky is blue.



Sapphire bootie for 250.00????  Wow.

Reported as a bootleg copy.... I won't hold my breath that eBay will do anything.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2661 on: July 17, 2012, 05:27:52 AM »
Thus isn't a thread about "wow, look at how high some games can sell for, no game is worth more than $20". This is about specific items that regularly sell relatively cheap being advertised for outrageous prices, compared to what they can actually be currently found for. It is also about exposing clear market manipulation. The story of how this thread even came to be sums it up pretty ironically.

Dynastic Hero is or was easy to find for $5. The only reason it doesn't come up as often now is that it's not worth the effort for a seller because it's so worthless. But we still see the odd seller asking hundreds of dollars for the same extremely common version. If a collector wants something so bad yet somehow knows absolutely nothing about it, that they would pay one hundred times the going rate for it, sure that's "their business". But what is so unreasonable about discussing how unreasonable it is to monetarily value things so much which some people clearly don't care enough about to actually learn anything about?

Many of the more vocal anti-gougers in this thread happily spend $100+ on single games. They just don't take pride in spending 200% - 1000% on any given game. Real collectors collect things they genuinely admire. The current wave of nu-collectors, who consider it a "hobby", who value items based on what they believe others value them for and consider collectibles an "investment", are really the opposite of what traditional collectors are and they really should come up with new terms to describe themselves and their investment schemes.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2662 on: July 17, 2012, 06:36:59 AM »
The fact is this "hobby" isn't the same as it was 10, or even 2 years ago and it may never be that way again.  Many people, including myself, are jumping into the hobby and 'collecting' anything related to old games.  Am I collecting the games so that I can sell them later?  Maybe, but it's not going to make me rich or put my kids through university.  I would like to think I'll break even whenever, but I'll most likely take a loss.  I'm collecting mainly for nostalgia.

Game collecting now, reminds me of comic collecting back in the 90's.  Comics were huge back then and prices got stupid - fast.  I'm sure there were some 30 year old comic collectors saying all the same shit that has been said over and over in this thread.  New collectors are ruining the hobby.  Now comics have stabilized and prices have fallen.  There will come a time when the same thing will happen with 'retro' games, but right now I think they are in their heyday and it's going to be a while before things calm down again.  The nice thing about there being so much excitement around this hobby now is that people who have been sitting on heaps of games/consoles can make a few bucks and 'collectors' are seeing a lot more being put on the market as basements are cleaned.

I like to think this thread is about pointing out eBay auctions with 'extreme gouging'.  Auctions like the Super System 3.0 card that been put up for over $300.  That's just f*cked up and it's just a Seller trying to take advantage of people with absolutely no knowledge.  They are scams, plain and simple.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2663 on: July 17, 2012, 07:55:52 AM »
Nah, that was just shedding some light on what they (the resellers) are probably wanting to do because they got shafted on what they perceived was a good price.

His eBay ID says he's in WA. Wonder if he got it through this forum from Blue? Let's find out who he is so we can ban him. 

Washington? ha! Got what through the forum? Where is my ebay ID there? Mine is Storino03, same as my username here. and it's Wisconsin. You can check it and stalk me for all I care.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2664 on: July 17, 2012, 08:43:48 AM »
Washington? ha! Got what through the forum? Where is my ebay ID there? Mine is Storino03, same as my username here. and it's Wisconsin. You can check it and stalk me for all I care.

Reading for context, it looks like his comment was meant for the Sapphire booty.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2665 on: July 17, 2012, 08:53:30 AM »
oh yeah, makes sense :P sorry, jp

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2666 on: July 17, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »
Did anyone on this board snag the Dynastic Hero or SAZ for $50 this morning?

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2667 on: July 17, 2012, 01:14:25 PM »
oh yeah, makes sense :P sorry, jp


No worries man! I'd quoted the wrong post, it was most definitely about the Sapphire booties (the guy that listed it is in WA). Sorry for the confusion!


Did anyone on this board snag the Dynastic Hero or SAZ for $50 this morning?


Not me, but oh snap!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Air-Zonk-TurboGrafx-CD-1993-/261069334727?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3cc8f1e8c7#ht_500wt_1182
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dynastic-Hero-TurboGrafx-16-/261069336607?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3cc8f1f01f#ht_500wt_1182

I'm confused though...they show one bid each and don't really look like they were BINs. And I checked listing and ending dates and that Dynastic Hero lasted all of four minutes. How the F do people catch these so quickly?
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2668 on: July 17, 2012, 01:22:33 PM »
Yay to $50 booties that will now be flipped for 1000 times more. [-(

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #2669 on: July 17, 2012, 01:30:08 PM »
They're bootleg?