Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[NightWolve]

Beyond Shadowgate - Shipping and Handling will be $15 and will include SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION (It says $4 but Ebay clearly isn't up with the times about shipping costs!  Pretty dumb if you ask me.  I will send the invoice with the correct amount, this is MANDATORY for this kind of High Priced Item).  I won't have anything less than that, so don't ask.

He wants you to pay for signature confirmation. I'm not up on rates, but I don't think that adds that much more to the cost. If he photocopies the receipt and refunds back the difference on what he actually paid, that'd be fair, but is eBay forcing you to agree to a maximum, affordable rate, that's how it works?

[jperryss]

what were the shipping charges before? theyre currently $4 for expedited, which I assume it was lowered to after you brought the gouging to ebay's attention

The listed shipping cost for the auction is $4, but in the description he says it will be $15, even though eBay would not let him charge more than $4. So he's admitting that he's too good for the rules that every other seller on eBay has to abide by.

Note also that eBay fees are based on the winning bid without shipping charges, so he is skirting those fees also.

Beyond Shadowgate - Shipping and Handling will be $15 and will include SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION (It says $4 but Ebay clearly isn't up with the times about shipping costs!  Pretty dumb if you ask me.  I will send the invoice with the correct amount, this is MANDATORY for this kind of High Priced Item).  I won't have anything less than that, so don't ask.

He wants you to pay for signature confirmation. I'm not up on rates, but I don't think that adds that much more to the cost. If he photocopies the receipt and refunds back the difference on what he actually paid, that'd be fair, but is eBay forcing you to agree to a maximum, affordable rate, that's how it works?

Yes, eBay limits what you can ask for shipping. I'll admit it's a bit low sometimes, but $4 to ship a game is fair. Signature confirmation is 75 cents, and insurance is like $1.50.

$15 is ridiculous to ship a game. I shipped an XBOX360 console across the US a few months back, insured, and it was like $17.

And incidentally, note that his second-to-last feedback rating complains of "poor packaging". And his overall feedback is terrible. This guy is a piece of work.

[NightWolve]

Yes, eBay limits what you can ask for shipping. I'll admit it's a bit low sometimes, but $4 to ship a game is fair. Signature confirmation is 75 cents, and insurance is like $1.50.

$15 is ridiculous to ship a game. I shipped an XBOX360 console across the US a few months back, insured, and it was like $17.

And incidentally, note that his second-to-last feedback rating complains of "poor packaging". And his overall feedback is terrible. This guy is a piece of work.

Ah, yeah, so he is just double-gouging (both on item and S/H)... At $200 minimum, he should be throwing in shipping/insurance/confirmation anyway. A complete copy here sold for $150 I think. I still thought that was a horrible price, but I'm not up with the times, you see... Bernie actually hooked me up with an image file set of the game, so luckily there's always that option - I wouldn't have cared, but people here say it's a great game, so I wanted to give it another chance.

[jperryss]

Bernie actually hooked me up with an image file set of the game, so luckily there's always that option

That is what I did as well. I just wish I had a nice case insert for it on the shelf.

[Sadler]

A complete copy here sold for $150 I think.

I think the last one here sold for $180 and wasn't complete (no poster).

[NightWolve]

I think the last one here sold for $180 and wasn't complete (no poster).

Yeah, no poster, here it goes. Though I was under the impression Bernie and Keith got him down to $150 from his last $180 asking price. Nobody ever takes me up on my $5 offer...

[Sadler]

Yeah, no poster, here it goes. Though I was under the impression Bernie and Keith got him down to $150 from his last $180 asking price. Nobody ever takes me up on my $5 offer...

Heh. I actually offered him $200 initially. He PM'd back and said only $180. I wasn't complaining! It is a very cool game and was one of the last 4 titles I was missing.

[T2KFreeker]

Yeah, no poster, here it goes. Though I was under the impression Bernie and Keith got him down to $150 from his last $180 asking price. Nobody ever takes me up on my $5 offer...

Heh. I actually offered him $200 initially. He PM'd back and said only $180. I wasn't complaining! It is a very cool game and was one of the last 4 titles I was missing.

BLAH!!!!

[Flare65]

He mentions ProPay for method of payment for the Beyond Shadowgate game.  Never heard of this method of shipping before.....has anyone used it? 

Also, I know ebay has that buyer protection plan deal where if you are unhappy with the item, you can return it back to the seller.  Does this work even if the seller specifically states no refunds?  From selling stuff in the past, I've been burned by someone who wanted to return an item back to me for no reason other than the same exact item sold for significantly less.

[vestcoat]

Also, I know ebay has that buyer protection plan deal where if you are unhappy with the item, you can return it back to the seller.  Does this work even if the seller specifically states no refunds?  From selling stuff in the past, I've been burned by someone who wanted to return an item back to me for no reason other than the same exact item sold for significantly less.

I've used buyer protection a couple of times. My impression is that ebay customer service relies on a fair amount of common sense when and if they get involved. A lot of listings default to "no returns", but it's easy to get your money back if the seller didn't describe it properly, listed the wrong condition, was grossly negligent in how something was shipped.

[CPTRAVE]

He mentions ProPay for method of payment for the Beyond Shadowgate game.  Never heard of this method of shipping before.....has anyone used it? 

Also, I know ebay has that buyer protection plan deal where if you are unhappy with the item, you can return it back to the seller.  Does this work even if the seller specifically states no refunds?  From selling stuff in the past, I've been burned by someone who wanted to return an item back to me for no reason other than the same exact item sold for significantly less.

Propay means that a credit card is required for payment, not Paypal thats it.

[jperryss]

Propay means that a credit card is required for payment, not Paypal thats it.

But that's HUGE. With PayPal, eBay has the ability to hold or take back the funds you send to the seller in the event you get screwed.

[PikachuWarrior]

Shipping with delivery/signature confirmation (those two services add about $3-4 tops), so you're looking at $6-8 max to ship. $15 is outrageous.

[Bernie]

Bernie actually hooked me up with an image file set of the game, so luckily there's always that option

That is what I did as well. I just wish I had a nice case insert for it on the shelf.

All ya gotta do is ask.    I can scan my inserts for you if you would like.  Just get with me via PM.

[BigT]

He mentions ProPay for method of payment for the Beyond Shadowgate game.  Never heard of this method of shipping before.....has anyone used it? 

Also, I know ebay has that buyer protection plan deal where if you are unhappy with the item, you can return it back to the seller.  Does this work even if the seller specifically states no refunds?  From selling stuff in the past, I've been burned by someone who wanted to return an item back to me for no reason other than the same exact item sold for significantly less.

From reading his listing description, he sounds like a complete douche with some sort of personality disorder... I would stay far away!!!... even if he was listing it for $80, I'd think twice about bidding