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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3015 on: August 22, 2012, 05:35:28 PM »
when the second wind started to hit was around 1996 1997..  Back then Dracula x was going for 185 consistently and Macross 2036 75 bucks and sapphire 500-600 with Circus lido in the 400s.  Any pcs title would get bids on eBay then, even games like rom rom stadium.  To me back then the prices across all were higher, bit the us versions were lower.
These price fluctuations aren't natural ups and downs because there were a completely different set of factors driving prices back then. First, the internet was really taking off in the mid-to-late Nineties. For the first time, gamers were a Yahoo search away from ebay and TZD; no longer did they have to comb the pages of EGM and call the handful of import specialists like Die Hard. Hence, import prices were high for the same reason new consoles command a premium at launch - it was the PCE's introduction to the North American market.

Admittedly, the TG was still an unpopular niche console and demand was fairly low for both TG and PCE games, but the supply of imports was even lower. Dracula X didn't drop in price because gamers are any less obsessed with, it dropped because the number of Japanese sellers on ebay increased and after ten years everyone finally realized that it's a common game. Circus Lido didn't drop because collectors thinned out, it dropped because a pallet of unopened copies was discovered. And a genuine Sapphire still sells for hundreds of dollars.

Don't get me wrong, I paid $60 for ACD Fatal Fury in 1997 and it sucked, but what we have now is worse. The only price drops we've seen have been because of increased supply and distribution. Demand has done nothing but increase. Unless someone finds untapped markets or more lost pallets, nothing is going to change.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3016 on: August 22, 2012, 06:08:43 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180953020405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Are you kidding me?  Nintendo Players guide for 30.00?  These sell all day long on even egay for 8.00.  People are beyond rediculous.

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Do those $8 guide still have original sticker sheet intact?  Maybe that'd drive the price up?


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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3017 on: August 23, 2012, 01:20:06 AM »
agreed but also to add more on this topic:
I forgot to mention back then Strider ACD went for $175 to $200 (I think I even saw it hit $300 a few times in fall of 1998) on evilbay.. mega RPG hits like Popful Mail and Seiya Monogatari were also $125 titles.. now these gems can be had for <$50 and Strider around $60-70..  so for me, since I don't really collect TG-version games, (unless I want the English versions, ie RPGs like DE2, menus in Bloody Wolf, Cadash etc), I still think the market has gotten more affordable!! 

The reverse has happened to the TG versions now though.  i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow.   Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3?  WTF..   

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago??  fock time flies!!  what a trip down memory lane.

when the second wind started to hit was around 1996 1997..  Back then Dracula x was going for 185 consistently and Macross 2036 75 bucks and sapphire 500-600 with Circus lido in the 400s.  Any pcs title would get bids on eBay then, even games like rom rom stadium.  To me back then the prices across all were higher, bit the us versions were lower.
These price fluctuations aren't natural ups and downs because there were a completely different set of factors driving prices back then. First, the internet was really taking off in the mid-to-late Nineties. For the first time, gamers were a Yahoo search away from ebay and TZD; no longer did they have to comb the pages of EGM and call the handful of import specialists like Die Hard. Hence, import prices were high for the same reason new consoles command a premium at launch - it was the PCE's introduction to the North American market.

Admittedly, the TG was still an unpopular niche console and demand was fairly low for both TG and PCE games, but the supply of imports was even lower. Dracula X didn't drop in price because gamers are any less obsessed with, it dropped because the number of Japanese sellers on ebay increased and after ten years everyone finally realized that it's a common game. Circus Lido didn't drop because collectors thinned out, it dropped because a pallet of unopened copies was discovered. And a genuine Sapphire still sells for hundreds of dollars.

Don't get me wrong, I paid $60 for ACD Fatal Fury in 1997 and it sucked, but what we have now is worse. The only price drops we've seen have been because of increased supply and distribution. Demand has done nothing but increase. Unless someone finds untapped markets or more lost pallets, nothing is going to change.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3018 on: August 23, 2012, 03:51:08 AM »
Also, who cares if some idiot posts an overpriced power adapter? It won't sell. And on the off chance that it does sell to some retard, who cares? "An idiot and his money are soon parted."

We care, obviously.  The point of this thread is abundantly clear from the title, so get the f*ck out if its subject doesn't interest you.

Just meant as a bit of convo. I knew it would get people talking..... Didn't mean for it to be anything else other than a conversation piece.

Yeah, 'get people talking' after 200 pages (and 200 more from the deleted thread) and a clown of the week popping in to tell us that we shouldn't care about gouging or that gouging doesn't exist.  Thanks for nothing.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3019 on: August 23, 2012, 05:29:34 AM »
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The reverse has happened to the TG versions now though.  i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow.   Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3?  WTF..   

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago??  fock time flies!!  what a trip down memory lane.

I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3020 on: August 23, 2012, 06:25:11 AM »
wow BT - you spend 1200 on a TG+CD, 400 for TG-16?  when was this? 

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The reverse has happened to the TG versions now though.  i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow.   Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3?  WTF..   

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago??  fock time flies!!  what a trip down memory lane.

I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3021 on: August 23, 2012, 06:27:55 AM »
wow BT - you spend 1200 on a TG+CD, 400 for TG-16?  when was this? 

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The reverse has happened to the TG versions now though.  i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow.   Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3?  WTF..   

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago??  fock time flies!!  what a trip down memory lane.

I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

No kidding! :shock: I got my Turbo CD back in '09 for $150 w/ case.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3022 on: August 23, 2012, 06:42:02 AM »
USA Y's III for $2,000!! 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-III-Wanderers-from-Ys-TurboGrafx-CD-1991-New-Rare-Sealed-/150886073085?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item232182c2fd#ht_500wt_1414

A real steal. Buy it, get it VGA graded, then resell for $20,000!!!

PS not mine, I wouldn't keep anything sealed.

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« Reply #3023 on: August 23, 2012, 07:38:30 AM »
I spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3024 on: August 23, 2012, 12:34:12 PM »
I spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.
Agreed. I paid close to $70 for Dragon Ball Z when it first came out and now it can be had for around $20. Needless to say most PCE games are still pretty cheap compared to where they were at in the 90s. Hell, I still remember when I first saw Dracula X for $150 back in 98 and I about shit myself. Now days we can get it for half that.

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« Reply #3025 on: August 23, 2012, 10:33:42 PM »
lol, I had Dragonball Z too back them and sold it for exactly $75 cuz I thought it wasn't all that great !   now people can't give that away for $20.. that was one title I thought could have been AMAZING but the battle system kinda let me down..  then again pretty much all DBZ games fighting systems were wacky.  I actually thought the NES/Famicom RPG version was the best DBZ game made!

I spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.
Agreed. I paid close to $70 for Dragon Ball Z when it first came out and now it can be had for around $20. Needless to say most PCE games are still pretty cheap compared to where they were at in the 90s. Hell, I still remember when I first saw Dracula X for $150 back in 98 and I about shit myself. Now days we can get it for half that.


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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3026 on: August 23, 2012, 10:40:08 PM »

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« Reply #3027 on: August 24, 2012, 01:26:29 AM »
BLAZING Lasers NEW for $50 bucks!!  (except the seller's "New" copy somehow has no box?  lol)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLAZING-LASERS-TURBO-GRAFX-BRAND-NEW-/370525338947?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item564507fd43#ht_500wt_969


It came from a European TurboGrafx system. So there was no outer box with it.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3028 on: August 24, 2012, 05:15:18 AM »
wow, how did you know that?  was this Blazing lasers a pack in for UK systems?  very interesting.


BLAZING Lasers NEW for $50 bucks!!  (except the seller's "New" copy somehow has no box?  lol)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLAZING-LASERS-TURBO-GRAFX-BRAND-NEW-/370525338947?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item564507fd43#ht_500wt_969


It came from a European TurboGrafx system. So there was no outer box with it.

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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #3029 on: August 24, 2012, 05:57:50 AM »
ow, how did you know that?  was this Blazing lasers a pack in for UK systems?  very interesting.

Yeah, it was the pack-in for at least the UK distributed PAL systems. I've heard the ones from Spain came with Alien Crush. But I'm not 100% on the Spain ones
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