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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4080 on: May 04, 2013, 04:05:51 PM »
Yeah that search is not pulling up all the ones that have sold as of the past few months. I know this because I started looking at the going price when people were contacting me about the copy I had. Going prices fluctuated from $150 to 400 or so depending on condition and if the manual was in color or not. I ended up opting to trade mine to a fellow gamer instead of taking it to ebay so my copy would not end up on those statistics.

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« Reply #4081 on: May 05, 2013, 05:19:34 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUNGEON-EXPLORER-II-2-TurboGrafx-16-CD-Turbo-Duo-Game-COMPLETE-/130897745798?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1e7a1d1786
Since when was Dungeon Explorer II worth more than $400?



Never, it sells on eBay for <$200.




Never?

http://item.ebay.com/221123806010

Its been fluctuating quite a bit for the past year.

That $200 BIN sale, I actually saw live. Got snatched up in the first 10 minutes. If I didn't already have a copy, I would have been all over it.

http://videogames.pricecharting.com/game/turbografx-16/dungeon-explorer-ii-%5Bsuper-cd%5D#completed-auctions



Your definition of the word "worth" is different than others around here. I've seen it not get snatched up at BINs between $200 - $300 the past six months or so.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4082 on: May 06, 2013, 03:47:43 AM »
Your definition of the word "worth" is different than others around here.

Indeed.  DK's concept of worth only coincides with other collectards.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4083 on: May 06, 2013, 06:52:34 AM »

Your definition of the word "worth" is different than others around here. I've seen it not get snatched up at BINs between $200 - $300 the past six months or so.

Perhaps. That sale of $460 was when one particular ebayer was on a rampage to finish a TG16/CD set in record time. That same collector was also responsible for the $2000 Dynastic Hero sale from plcards. It doesn't matter what anyone "thinks" something is worth.

However, it is disingenuous to say its been selling for < $200 on ebay. There are two sales since August 2012 on that list that are < $200, one is for the disc only, and the other has a photocopied manual. Every complete copy put on auction since August of 2012 has been greater than $200.

So yes, there were some BINs of  < $200 that sat untouched, because they were disc only.

But in the end, who cares? I paid around $2-3 for my copy. Does that make it worth $2-3? No, I got lucky. Had the seller been educated on the game, I wouldn't have paid $2-3.

I don't think magical chase is worth $3,000 to me. I'd pay maybe $100 for it. You know who cares? No one. No seller is going to sell me a copy for $100. What is the point of saying "It is worth $100" if no one is ever going to sell it to me for that price. I can make up prices all day long. If no sales ever reflect that, who cares?

 Also, I find it very ironic that this debate is going on, while there is an advertisement for VGPC on the bottom of my screen, where there are 2 cartridges saying "I'm worth $9000" and "I'm worth $2"
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4084 on: May 06, 2013, 06:56:18 AM »
DK proves yet again that he is a moron.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4085 on: May 06, 2013, 07:21:59 AM »
DK proves yet again that he is a moron.

 BlackTiger told BigusShmuck "It's been selling for less than $200 on ebay!" That isn't true. Me being a moron, a$$hole, collectard, or any other cute names you come with doesn't make Black Tiger's statement any more true.

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« Reply #4086 on: May 06, 2013, 07:36:20 AM »
However, it is disingenuous to say its been selling for < $200 on ebay. There are two sales since August 2012 on that list that are < $200, one is for the disc only, and the other has a photocopied manual. Every complete copy put on auction since August of 2012 has been greater than $200.

No it's not.

There are copies that sell for <200$.  Your pricechart link just showed this to be true.

The current prices that are 400$+ are from idiot collectors who quite honestly should cease collecting games and go collect something else that can't be played.  That way, they won't be f*cking it up for the rest of us.


I can't wait for CCAG this year so I can go scope out all the goons with overpriced crap and no clue what any of it is.   "eBay says it was this much so its this much!  Oh, it's an RPG ?  Oh ok!  Buy it!"

I've yet to meet a collector who accepts/contributes to retarded pricing that actually plays the games.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4087 on: May 06, 2013, 08:26:03 AM »
BlackTiger told BigusShmuck "It's been selling for less than $200 on ebay!" That isn't true. Me being a moron, a$$hole, collectard, or any other cute names you come with doesn't make Black Tiger's statement any more true.

So one instance of the game selling for $460 must mean that it really is worth $400+.  :roll:

Using your beloved pricecharting as guide (even though it's far from comprehensive), it's obvious the average worth is well under $400.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4088 on: May 06, 2013, 08:44:41 AM »
There are copies that sell for <200$.  Your pricechart link just showed this to be true.


I agree. Except, either they were incomplete, or before August 2012, the summer of retarded price spikes.

The current prices that are 400$+ are from idiot collectors who quite honestly should cease collecting games and go collect something else that can't be played.  That way, they won't be f*cking it up for the rest of us.

I'm curious. You can download an ISO and burn it to a high-quality CDR for about a buck. Even if lasers wear out due to CDRs, a laser replacement is still far cheaper than this game is going for. After you boot the CDR, there is no physical difference between the real thing, and the CDR. So, in that sense, the collectors paying through the nose, can't really f*ck things up for you. Likewise, a $90 Everdrive would let you play any hucard in existence. Additionally, there are plenty of fine PC Engine Emulators. You could also buy the PC Duo version of the game for < $20.

So, my question is, why bother caring about these prices, if you just want to play? There are a myriad of options available to just play it.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4089 on: May 06, 2013, 08:52:16 AM »
So, my question is, why bother caring about these prices, if you just want to play? There are a myriad of options available to just play it.

A better question is why does this thread bother you so much?  It's sole purpose is to get a few lulz and cathartic release by bitching about overpriced games, and nobody is forcing you to participate.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4090 on: May 06, 2013, 10:43:30 AM »
Looks like a couple of new douche bags on eBay. At least, new to me...

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« Reply #4091 on: May 06, 2013, 11:11:18 AM »
Any time I go to e-Bay just makes me wish I'd had more income years ago when I first started using it to buy Turbo stuff....now most of the stuff that I don't have yet is priced way to high, or never seen on e-Bay...or of course when it does show up it's priced for $100s.
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« Reply #4092 on: May 06, 2013, 12:41:03 PM »
Any time I go to e-Bay just makes me wish I'd had more income years ago when I first started using it to buy Turbo stuff....now most of the stuff that I don't have yet is priced way to high, or never seen on e-Bay...or of course when it does show up it's priced for $100s.

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« Reply #4093 on: May 06, 2013, 01:03:00 PM »
I agree. Except, either they were incomplete, or before August 2012, the summer of retarded GLORIOUS =P~ price spikes.

Were you really monitoring DEII sold and unsold (not asking) prices from August till now, or are just speculating based on what some chart says? I actually was keeping an eye on eBay DEII prices before August and through the new year, as I was interested in replacing the disc I traded off years ago when I was a starving student. I saw DEII consistently selling complete for (often well) below $200, but I continued to hold out for a properly priced disc-only copy from a reliable seller. Eventually I caved and bought a nice condition complete copy that a seller listed at a BIN of around $200, that people like you refused to jump on (even though it was the SCORE OF A LIFETIME! :shock:), and I made an offer well below that, which he accepted (after declining several lower offers). Even though complete copies had been recently selling for $100 - $150, I decided to pay a premium to have a premium condition copy immediately.


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So, my question is, why bother caring about these prices, if you just want to play? There are a myriad of options available to just play it.

Why do you see available copies of a game for a myriad of higher and lower prices, but purposely choose to pay much more for it? And even though throwing money away is a hobby you are passionate about, why do you bother caring so much about a thread dedicated to the opposite of your lifestyle? Why not put your energy into joining a chorus of like-minded price ceiling raisers?

You've been told too often, and if you ventured outside of these kinds of threads you'd already know, that we aren't whining about prices being too high. We're not stating prices we wish games would sell for. We're talking about real prices that we are actually buying games for at all the time. You speculate about what is happening to others, while we talk about what we are experiencing ourselves. So it's pointless trying to tell us that our reality is a pipe dream.
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Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )
« Reply #4094 on: May 06, 2013, 01:26:41 PM »
Were you really monitoring DEII sold and unsold (not asking) prices from August till now, or are just speculating based on what some chart says? I actually was keeping an eye on eBay DEII prices before August and through the new year, as I was interested in replacing the disc I traded off years ago when I was a starving student. I saw DEII consistently selling complete for (often well) below $200, but I continued to hold out for a properly priced disc-only copy from a reliable seller. Eventually I caved and bought a nice condition complete copy that a seller listed at a BIN of around $200, that people like you refused to jump on (even though it was the SCORE OF A LIFETIME! :shock:), and I made an offer well below that, which he accepted (after declining several lower offers). Even though complete copies had been recently selling for $100 - $150, I decided to pay a premium to have a premium condition copy immediately.

Where are these mystical sales of $100-150 complete copies between August of 2012 and Now? JJ of price charting has better things to do with his time than purposefully delete database entries of Ebay sales. Also, if complete copies were sitting untouched for around $200, why were people bidding them up to $370? Yeah, before August, complete copies had been selling for well below $200. Shit happens, prices go up.  Also, I never called it the deal of a lifetime. Stop embellishing.

Why do you see available copies of a game for a myriad of higher and lower prices, but purposely choose to pay much more for it? And even though throwing money away is a hobby you are passionate about, why do you bother caring so much about a thread dedicated to the opposite of your lifestyle? Why not put your energy into joining a chorus of like-minded price ceiling raisers?

Why do you assume I'm paying any of these prices? I paid like $2-3 for my copy. In fact, I've never paid close to that much for a game; you just admitted to paying more for a game than I ever have. You are the one that "Decided to pay a premium." That tells me you've contributed far more to raising the price of DE2 than I ever have.

Yeah, I trust a database of sales information that are directly linked to, and can be verified, over your memory of these sales. My bad.
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