Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[PunkicCyborg]

collectard lol you gotta admit dk that's pretty funny

[Sparky]

There a lot more tactful then you.

Could I be more tactful? Sure. However, don't pretend like everyone has been super nice, and I've been haughty and arrogant.

In this thread, Necromancer has called me a moron, a whiny cunt, and a collectard for disagreeing with Black Tiger on his faulty evaluation of a price.

YOU posted a picture of a dog, comparing it to me. You refuse to even write my name correct.

YOU dragged me up in this thread, which I hadn't even participated in.

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12933.msg292418#msg292418

Its a little late in the game for you to be lecturing me on tactfulness. Get off your high horse.

hahahaha...see there you go again.
Lighten up man, i am sorry you do not have a personality and don't whine about how you have been treated you bring a lot of this on yourself with your very own high horse.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

DK, you seem overly obsessed with this. The fact is DE II price has been in a constant state of fluctuation between $150 to $400 for awhile now, both on BIN and auction listings. Condition and completeness seemed to matter to a degree, but the fact remains it is very possible for the highly patient buyer to get it below 200 bucks, even if it is just a gamers condition copy, B&W manual copy, etc. When I was looking into this I seemed to recall at least 3 that sold for under $200. If I could I would go back and pull the auctions up, but ebays search engine for sold items does not go as far back as it used to. There just seems to be both extreme highs and extreme lows concerning the games going rate.  

Like I said, after researching and mulling over the idea of taking it to ebay, I opted out of having my copy end up in those statistics. **Money and rare items do funny things to people as-is, and I had probably 16-17 people contact me about the game from here and digital press, all making different offers. A couple were pretty low ball, many were vague (how much you lookin for?) inquires, and a few were for far more then I'd feel comfortable accepting (past the $250 range). I also had some motivation to avoid the game going to someone who planned to flip it a couple of weeks later. I traded it to a fellow gamer that post here and on Digital Press, keeping it strictly a deal between two gamers involving only game goods. He got the game he wanted, I got Saturn stuff I wanted, and I managed to at least avoid a bidding war on my auctions involving forum members and others. I have to admit I was not sure if the deal was going to happen or not at first, and I was dreading having to take the game to ebay. I figured if I ended up having to I was going to just do it auction only and start it at $149.99 and let the cards fall where they may.


**(Like when you tried to scam the guy out of his protos on Reddit)
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13853.msg275643#msg275643

[RoyVegas]

When I was looking into this I seemed to recall at least 3 that sold for under $200. If I could I would go back and pull the auctions up, but ebays search engine for sold items does not go as far back as it used to. There just seems to be both extreme highs and extreme lows concerning the games going rate.

There are also other sales that fall under the radar on eBay that people notice but forget about.  I got my DE II in a big game lot with a Buy it Now. Averaged out with the games I got, I paid less than $10 for mine.  Granted it may seem like a fluke, but it can and WILL happen. As most people on this site have said over and over, if you're patient you can find the deals.  I have yet to pay over $40 for ANY game I currently own for the Turbo/Duo.

[jelloslug]

When I was looking into this I seemed to recall at least 3 that sold for under $200. If I could I would go back and pull the auctions up, but ebays search engine for sold items does not go as far back as it used to. There just seems to be both extreme highs and extreme lows concerning the games going rate.

There are also other sales that fall under the radar on eBay that people notice but forget about.  I got my DE II in a big game lot with a Buy it Now. Averaged out with the games I got, I paid less than $10 for mine.  Granted it may seem like a fluke, but it can and WILL happen. As most people on this site have said over and over, if you're patient you can find the deals.  I have yet to pay over $40 for ANY game I currently own for the Turbo/Duo.

Very true.  I picked up a complete copy (box, plastic tray, yada, yada) of New Adventure Island for $45 off of Amazon.

[Necromancer]

In DK's bizarro world, BINs aren't 'fair market value'...

In my world it isn't? ..... In your world, it isn't either.

Selective editing of a quote to omit pertinent information is a trick of charlatans.  Well done, you twat.

Read the entire sentence: "In DK's bizarro world, BINs aren't 'fair market value' and therefor don't count (unless he's trying to make a point). The bizarre part is your complete disregard for low BINs and your refusal to factor them in when determining value.

But wait, you said it factors in! So, lets get some in-depth analysis into how:

So tell me, when Bonk 3 sold for $45, how was that reflected in the market value?  [You said it effects the overall price. How? Should it be averaged in? What if the seller listed it for $1? Should that be averaged in?]

Sure, why not?  [If the highest price auctions (i.e. - the $460 DEII) are a factor in determining value, then so must the lowest.]

"How?" "Sure!"  What an amazing, intelligent response.

Omission fail strikes again!

With the complete quotes, it's pretty clear I was saying that low prices should be averaged in with the high and everything in between, and that is HOW it factors into overall value.

In this thread, Necromancer has called me a moron, a whiny cunt, and a collectard for disagreeing with Black Tiger on his faulty evaluation of a price. being a moronic, whiny cunt with a retarded, collect-at-any-cost viewpoint and for continually entering this thread (and other similar discussions) to tell everyone to shut up.

I fixed that for ya.  As I've said before, you're welcome to start your own thread about how great eBay is for maximizing profits, how low prices are anomalies that should be ignored yet high prices that are similarly outside the price bell curve are perfect for setting 'true' values, how no eBay sellers have ever attempted to manipulate prices or buy stuff at fair prices to resell for profit, how great and 100% accurate pricecharting is, and how there's no such thing as price gouging; since I'm not a worthless troll, I won't spend 1/4 my time in your thread, tilting at your windmill and pleading for you to stop wasting your time.

YOU dragged me up in this thread, which I hadn't even participated in.

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12933.msg292418#msg292418

Heh, that's awesome; you're so thick you can't recognize a simple joke.  'Whiny cunt' indeed.

[Black Tiger]

Modern converter with PCE System 3.0 card for $215:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Import-Game-Converter-Super-System-Card-3-0-Pc-Engine-Turbo-Grafx-Duo-/251271574926?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a80f3f58e&_uhb=1


I wonder if this is the same clown from my local craigslist?

"Very rare opportunity!"

[Necromancer]

Tsuppari Ozuma Heiseiban for $195 plus shipping.  Le wut? 

[esteban]

Le Bargain. 

[jelloslug]

How about Pac Land for an opening bid of $49.99?  It looks like the manual has only been through a washing machine one time!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pac-Land-TurboGrafx-16-1990-/140976398056?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20d2d91ee8

[PunkicCyborg]

Tsuppari Ozuma Heiseiban for $195 plus shipping.  Le wut? 

that's one of the last hu cards so it's pretty scarce but still that's super high

[RoyVegas]

How about Pac Land for an opening bid of $49.99?  It looks like the manual has only been through a washing machine one time!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pac-Land-TurboGrafx-16-1990-/140976398056?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20d2d91ee8

This is why it's so expensive:

With super great graphics even by today's standards.........  

Clearly Pac-Land was ahead of it's time graphically, hense the value.  

[bob]

How about Pac Land for an opening bid of $49.99?  It looks like the manual has only been through a washing machine one time!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pac-Land-TurboGrafx-16-1990-/140976398056?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20d2d91ee8

This is why it's so expensive:

With super great graphics even by today's standards......... 

Clearly Pac-Land was ahead of it's time graphically, hense the value. 

Imagine if it had CD GRAPHICS?  I bet Nintendo and Sega had to come together and put a stop to it.  That would have just been unfair competition and the Japanese economy would have collapsed under a market crash.

[bob]

ok, just some fun, but I think "plcards" is losing a step.  Not sure he's doubling up on most of these.  It's funny how he seems to stay focused on 'bob and not much else for video games.

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[Black Tiger]

$275 for a Legend of Hero Tonma box-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legend-of-Hero-Tonma-BOX-ONLY-TurboGrafx-16-TG-16-Turbo-Duo-/300907240837?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item460f781d851

Clearly Pac-Land was ahead of it's time graphically, hense the value.

It actually was ahead of its time. It came out in 1984. It just wasn't cutting edge six years later, although the visual style has aged better than most games.