Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[Gentlegamer]

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 

You keep forgetting you're not on NA.

We don't sell to everyone, regardless of price.

[deubeul]

The last two auctions have broke $120. 

Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?

[jonebone]

The last two auctions have broke $120. 

Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?

Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.

[Johnpv]

$125 seems to be a crazy price because a few months ago similarly complete copies sold for half that.  If your idea of worth begins and ends with current ebay auctions, this thread probably isn't for you.

Actually, "a few months ago", the last public sale of a CIB was 5/28/16 was for $169 CAD (roughly $130 USD).  The recent sale is only crazy if you've lost concept of time or haven't been watching prices closely. Your "half that" price is probably longer ago than you think, maybe last year.

One of the biggest problems that feeds the out of control market is that most "collectors" don't understand how eBay or the/a market works. Worse still, they'll rely on inaccurate resources like pricecharting. Worse still, they go around saying things like the last copy sold for $130 and hype the phantom sales history to increase impulse buys, even when all it takes is a few clicks (if you understand how to operate eBay) to find that the last CIB copy sold recently for $45.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991-COMPLETE-HTF-/262527041705?hash=item3d1fd4c0a9%3Ag%3AfLgAAOSwRgJXiVHU&nma=true&si=ZYSfOTKQ9rhjr4meghbmmajLuhc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell.

Here's one with a buy it now of under 50 bucks and its just sitting there not being bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Impossamole-TurboGrafx-16-1991/272168561705?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38702%26meid%3D48e19a5a86fb4052b522336295a84dee%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D18%26sd%3D262527041705


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My mistake it doesn't have the cardboard box.

[jonebone]

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 

You keep forgetting you're not on NA.

We don't sell to everyone, regardless of price.

While it is flattering that you are obsessed with me and always adding your .02, it is starting to get creepy.

I'm not even that concerned with owning the game, nor do I care who sells what to who.  It came up in the thread, and as someone who is actively collecting Turbo CIBs, I thought I'd mention that price isn't really that bad.

Once again, complain about the Jackie Chan / Darkwing Duck values, or the Bonk 3 that just sold at $1100.  Those are good to complain about, Impossamole at $125 is hardly news.

[deubeul]

The last two auctions have broke $120. 

Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?

Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.

You're right, maybe it's not shill biddings. So that lets only one other possible reason that that shitty common game goes for so high prices in auctions:  Dumb buyers

I let you situate yourself.

[Necromancer]

And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth. 

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 

You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.

[BigusSchmuck]

The last two auctions have broke $120. 

Man, don't be naive. Never heard of shill biddings?

Do you know what shill bidding means or how to detect it?  There was zero reason to suspect any shill bidding on the most recent auction.  That seems to be the generic go-to disclaimer for all of the sideline folk who complain about prices though. 

Hint, you look at bid history, then look for low feedback / new users who bid many times on the auction in small increments.  If you see that then yes, shill bidding may have skewed the data.  If you don't see that then no, you're talking out your ass.

You're right, maybe it's not shill biddings. So that lets only one other possible reason that that shitty common game goes for so high prices in auctions:  Dumb buyers

I let you situate yourself.

Regardless, paying $100+ for garbage games is like buying crappy Jaguar games just to look at them. Hmm

[jonebone]

And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth. 

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 

You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.

Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.  If someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

[bob]

And there's some collectors who don't understand Buy It Now vs. auctions.  The last two auctions have broke $120.  A underpriced buy it now sold for $45 probably immediately upon posting.  Heck, you can go list yours at $20 Buy it now and have it sell in 30 seconds if you'd like?  It is pretty worthless as a data point though.

Typical reseller reasoning: anything low is just a fluke but equally infrequent highs are gospel truth. 

Once again, willing to pay $100 shipped on a CIB in nice condition and there's been crickets.  If that price was so overvalued sellers would be lining up to sell. 

You could offer $1000, which I'm sure you'd agree is way more than it's worth, and I still wouldn't sell mine.  Not everybody is like you and trying to make a quick buck off fellow gamers.

Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.  If someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

If you pay $100, how much will it cost you to VGA Brick it?

[Necromancer]

This guy really knows how to build a straw man. 

Do you not understand the difference between auction and buy it now?  At auction, 2 bidders determine the value and it is "fair game" for bidding.  At an underpriced buy it now, it is literally the first person to buy it.  You either glosssed over the point, or you don't understand how eBay works.

Obviously I understand how ebay works, but I'm not willing to dismiss all BINs as irrelevant.  Is that really so hard for you to understand?

If someone lists a Stadium Events for $100 and it sells in 3 seconds, is that the new going rate?  Come on now.

Nope.  Similarly, I'm not saying that a complete Impossamole is worth exactly $45 and anyone that pays a dime more is getting screwed.

As for point 2, who said anything about reselling?  I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

You are a reseller (or so 'hundreds of annual sales' would lead me to believe), but that's not the point of the second half of my previous post.  I don't think you're looking to flip Impossamole, but neither am I looking to flip any of the games I own regardless of potential for profit.

You're trying to use your lack offers as proof of Impossamole's value, but that's nonsense.  There's plenty of other factors in play: the odds of many resellers seeing your request in this particular thread are slim to none (especially over such a short period of time), we're not sitting on piles of duplicates just waiting to be sold, few are willing to sell anything and everything out of their personal collections if someone would only offer the right price, and some people wouldn't sell to you no matter what.

[esteban]

I'm willing to buy it for my collection at $100 and I'm not selling any TG16 games here.  Only an idiot would buy a game at $100 and try to sell at $125 anyway, not worth the effort.

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[KingofGames]

Such a shame that the game is sealed. It should be played and enjoyed, even though it is an average game that no one really wants to play.

[Medic_wheat]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

[sirhcman]

Not OBEY related but eBay related.


Saw a listing for the NA Saturn Megaman 7 disk only.

Seller has it listed at $111.11.

I shot a message saying how about $50. Expecting maybe a $70 rang throw back response. Or to simply f*ck off lol

The seller throws back that it's "the going rate"

My response pressing 1 over and over is "going rate" why not $55.55 or $222.22.

Sellers final response "if you can find it cheaper go for it".



It's BIN with seemingly arbitrary numbers thrown in and the only defensive rebuttal "it's he going rate"


So yes. A seller status the price. People are not activity saying hey saw you wanted $50 BIN. But I want to give you $1,000.

Mega Man 8? or X4? 7 never came out on Saturn