Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[fsa]

I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.

Blaming re-sellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility.

Another example of one guy selling a used copy of Minecraft Xbox edition for $25.00, when the game is selling new in store for $19.99.

I was just making a statement based on what I saw, not sure what you mean by "People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility", I don't go around buying games and turn around and try to sell at double  or triple what its worth. Most of the a$$holes are making up the prices and putting games out of reach of people that want to play them (ebay, kijiji, retro gaming stores, value village, and even the salvation army store).

PS. crazydean, that a very defensive statement..... but you are free to say whatever you want.

[Black Tiger]

No one has paid $100,000 for Magical Chase, not even for a sealed copy. It's just gouger pipe dreams.

[crazydean]

I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.

Blaming re-sellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility.

Another example of one guy selling a used copy of Minecraft Xbox edition for $25.00, when the game is selling new in store for $19.99.

I was just making a statement based on what I saw, not sure what you mean by "People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility", I don't go around buying games and turn around and try to sell at double  or triple what its worth. Most of the a$$holes are making up the prices and putting games out of reach of people that want to play them (ebay, kijiji, retro gaming stores, value village, and even the salvation army store).

PS. crazydean, that a very defensive statement..... but you are free to say whatever you want.

Your original statement blames the resellers for high prices. The guy trying to sell the Magical Chase for $100k will never get it, which is a good thing. He shouldn't get that much, but it's ultimately on the buyer to decide what something is worth. If a game is worth $10 to you, then you are an idiot for paying $100. You use the term "selling" instead of "asking". Selling implies that someone is buying at that price. If no one buys, then you can't say he's selling it for that much, only asking.

Also, on the statement where you say people are marking up prices, putting them out of reach for some people, I say you should find another way to play the game if you can't afford it. Or, find a new hobby.

I'm not on either side of this. I don't buy nor sell games, so this isn't defensive. I can ask $1m for my car, but that doesn't make it worth $1m. Now when someone pays me that much for it, that's where the problem begins.

[Necromancer]

You're naive if you don't think high asking prices factor into what people ultimately pay for games.

[NightWolve]

It's as simple as understanding that both sides play a role, desperate, big-spending nutjobs and shady resellers.

[neopolss]

The problem in general is that flippers and resellers keep pushing the price upwards, and since they have a global market, there's always one guy who's just crazy enough to buy it, setting the new benchmark.  It doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceudical guys with wu tang albums.  Will the prices come down?  Sure.  But do I want to sit and wait 10-20 years for prices to fall, for that flipper to finally realize he needs to lower his price?  No way!  I deal in arcade related stuff, and there are soooooooo many guys who sit on huge collections, and every piece is gold.  9 times out of 10, they sit on it until it all rots, and them no one gets to play them, and it all goes to waste.  It's a shitty shitty system and it just plain sucks.

[neopolss]

I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.

Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility.

And you know what, guy?  You may be right.  But let us have a goddamn thread to bitch and moan and get it out of our system.

[NightWolve]

It doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceutical guys with wu tang albums.

Heh-heh, that's a good way to put it...

[crazydean]

I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.

Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some f*cking personal responsibility.

And you know what, guy?  You may be right.  But let us have a goddamn thread to bitch and moan and get it out of our system.

You're right. I'm sorry. I don't really mind most of the bitching. I think it was just the "everything's so expensive when it's complete in box, poor me. I need CIB games for $5, and I need it yesterday!"

[jonebone]

Just to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.

[tbone3969]

It doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceutical guys with wu tang albums.

Heh-heh, that's a good way to put it...

I knew Martin Shkreli bought some high priced MTG cards.  What video games has he bought?

[seieienbu]

Just to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.

By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.

[ginoscope]

Just to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.

By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.

I agree with seieienbu sometimes private sales can be way lower.  I know I have friends and other contacts that would sell high priced items for way under what the recent public one sold.

[MrBroadway]

Just to add fuel to the fire, there's a lot of private dealings that are not public knowledge.  Maybe the last public sales price was $200 a few years ago but private bounties have been much higher.  A seller can use that to gauge the price and list much higher knowing he already has multiple guys in a range.

By the same token, private sales can be much lower.  I've bought a few games for prices that are ridiculously lower than the going known rates on ebay.  The problem with going by Price Charting or something to figure out what a game is worth is those types of web sites only track easy to come by data and ignore data that would require substantial work to find.

I agree with seieienbu sometimes private sales can be way lower.  I know I have friends and other contacts that would sell high priced items for way under what the recent public one sold.

Forum communities used to sell under ebay price all the time.

[Black Tiger]

It happens all the time here.