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Ninja Spirit

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« on: July 27, 2005, 09:00:18 AM »
Who else other than myself has that ear for Hucard sound effects or music that sounds too identical to NES/Famicom?

I've always been a fan of 8-bit music from the NES/Sega Master System and that makes Hucard soundtracks such as Barunba, China Warrior/The Kung Fu, and Burning Angels some of my favorites.

As mentioned in another thread, the drum channel in Tiger Road sounds very similar to Mega Man 2's.

PCE Ninja Gaiden also has the same item pickup, life up, extra life, and pause sound effects from the NES NG trilogy.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2005, 11:13:01 AM »
I love the PCE PSG sound. Ever since I started getting into TG16/PCE games, I noticed one thing; the music always rules in every game, even if it's the crappiest game. When I got into CD games, the same rule still applied. In my strong opinion, the TG16/PCE has the best game music of all time.

I know what you mean by how it sounds like NES, and I can agree. I think it sounds more like a beef-uped NES, which is quite awesome. I was never a fan of the Genesis sound, it's always sound too "scratchy" for me (an excellent example of this is in "El Viento", but that game still ruled.), rather than the smooth TG16/PCE sound. Also I always thought Sega Master System sound was pretty shitty, although it has a atmosphere to it that I kind of like. The FM sound for the SMS, on the other hand, is quite nice.

A few of my favorite TG16/PCE HuCard soundtracks:

Batman - This is just too good, hardware and music wise.

Dungeon Explorer - You have to beat a couple dungeons to really experience how awesome the music is.

King of Casino - Okay people are going to think I am a dork for listing this one, but I thought the soft music in this game was stunning. It's composed for perfect relaxation and made me enjoy the game a lot because of it.

I'd also like to mention that some CD games had excellent PSG music. The best example that comes to mind is Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys which had INCREDIBLE PSG music.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2005, 12:45:32 PM »
Ahh..the 8-bit sounds of yore...I ma actually thinking about the revolution just so I can play all those old games on one system.  so many NES and turbo soundtracks come to mind...final fantasy,  the opening screens of Zelda, and metroid..(i still love it when samus phases in too!)  blaster master
the list goes on

and who can forget the pounding beats of Ninja gaiden,  and the dark drama of the final cut scenes before you take down the jackio...Ryu says.."I cannot be beat"!  that got me so pumped!  when games were games!  
I never played the PCE version of it but i guess it is the arcade.  i liked the nes better.

Dungeon explorer had awesome music keranu, you are right!   and I was blown away when my friend got the cd system and we heard the music of Ys,
my breath was taken,  but it was strange too...foreign in some manner

I love to beebop along to the radio here!   lately my connection has been strange...some of this should be in the general discussions aaron..sorry!
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2005, 02:44:47 PM »
Bloody Wolf has a FANTASTIC soundtrack.  I can hum most of the tunes to this day...
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2005, 03:53:31 PM »
Bloody Wolf was pretty good too. Remember that funny part in the first level song where you can hear a digitalized voice say "Yeeeah!"? That was pretty hilarious when I first heard it.

Bomberman, Bomberman '93, and Bomberman '94 all had some great tunes as well. Oh one of my favorite HuCard tracks is in the opening of the Japanese game "Cyber Cross". I thought that song was awesome and I would always repeat the opening to hear it, along with watching the sweet opening :D .
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

Ninja Spirit

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2005, 03:55:38 PM »
Quote from: "doomfarer75"

I never played the PCE version of it but i guess it is the arcade.  i liked the nes better.



PCE Ninja Gaiden is a semi enhanced port of the first NES game, some subtle balances were tweaked and made it slightly harder than the NES. 98% of the music is totally different, the small Act introduction tune is still intact.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2005, 04:55:51 PM »
Actually, Neutopia 2 is setup to utilize Dolby Prologic.
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Keranu

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2005, 06:42:49 PM »
Really? I did not know that, interesting.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2005, 10:48:19 PM »
I really like a lot of the music in hucard games, along with nes and sms stuff. The ones that comes to mind are Dungeon Explorer, Neutopia II, Raiden and Blazing Lazers. These all sound espcially good with a turbo booster.

This is kind of off topic, but is the turbo/pc engine sound chip more powerful than the genesis one? I've always thought it sounded better though i'm not sure of the actual specs.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2005, 12:52:10 AM »
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This is kind of off topic, but is the turbo/pc engine sound chip more powerful than the genesis one? I've always thought it sounded better though i'm not sure of the actual specs.

Open to interpretation, really... :) The Genesis sound circuitry had more voices but the PCE chip was of better quality and was more efficient as well (built into the main processor as opposed to requiring a seperate processor AND a sound chip). Even with their crappy-ass stock Yamaha sound chip though, a few games on the Genesis managed to pound out some classics (who can forget the soundtracks from Sonic The Hedgehog? I have a particular like for the soundtrack from Phantasy Star 4 and Jewel Master as well...). But there are very few games on the PCE with bad-sounding soundtracks, and off the top of my head, I can't think of any.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2005, 12:53:43 AM »
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PCE Ninja Gaiden is a semi enhanced port of the first NES game, some subtle balances were tweaked and made it slightly harder than the NES. 98% of the music is totally different, the small Act introduction tune is still intact.[/quote]


OMG really?  so it has the same levels, story line and is more of a challenge?  ("tecmo games-hard to beat"!  )   complete with the drama of Ryu's dad and what not?  I may have to get this game.  The NES version was legendary..I remember how they talked it up in Nintendo Power and it really delivered...superb!
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Ninja Spirit

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2005, 02:03:32 AM »
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OMG really?  so it has the same levels, story line and is more of a challenge?  ("tecmo games-hard to beat"!  )   complete with the drama of Ryu's dad and what not?  I may have to get this game.  The NES version was legendary..I remember how they talked it up in Nintendo Power and it really delivered...superb!


http://images.google.com/images?q=Ninja+Gaiden+PC+Engine&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N&filter=0
See for your self. Hudson Soft ported it to PCE.

Problem is, if you play the rom on emulator, you can only play stage 1. that's it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2005, 02:58:30 AM »
I personally like the NES Ninja Gaiden better than the PCE one.  Mainly because I like the music on the NES more.  The gfx are better on the PCE of course, but the Ys III style choppy background scrolling really distracted me.

I'm kinda curious why Hudson decided to port Ninja Gaiden.  I don't remember it being a particularly popular game in Japan but I'm not sure.  Anyway, I was hoping for the entire trilogy, but obviously that didn't happen.

Some other games with some pretty good music are Soldier Blade, Legendary Axe II, and Tatsujin (Truxton).

Also, who can forget the awesome music from Dragon Spirit and Dragon Saber?  Those two are probably my favs.  I used to listen to the music on those two all the time.  As a matter of fact, my friend made me a Dragon Spirit mix CD with music from PCE, Arcade, and remixed arcade music from Dragon Saber arcade hardware.  Very cool.
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Ninja Spirit

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2005, 03:05:12 AM »
That reminds me, I have the first stage of Dragon Saber on minidisc.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2005, 03:53:23 AM »
No two PSG/FM systems sound alike. The Megadrive sounded more like a X68000 or an arcade cab (the weaker YM2612 being a close relative of the great YM2151). The early PC Engine games sounded very much like Famicom indeed; but if there's a comparison to be made, that would definitely be with the MSX SCC+ :)
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