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What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« on: November 27, 2010, 02:08:25 PM »
What kinda TV do you play TG16 on? What year was it made?

I heard that the LCD tv's lag in showing you actual gameplay. Is that true? I play on a LCD that's about 26inches and I change the screen to 4:3.
I have a sony 19inch tube tv that has the flat screen but no matter how much I change the contrast and brightness it looks like krap compared to the LCD.
I don't have a plasma but do plasma tv lag like an LCD.
I'm curious what you guys use?? What is the best kind of tv to use? The lag isn't really an issue playing a RPG but maybe in a shooter it can be frustrating. Let me know.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 02:15:50 PM »
I use a 56" Samsung dlp hdtv.  Works great in 4:3 mode.
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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 03:16:29 PM »
Only a 21" Panisonic in a mother f@cking kiosk yo!!! :P
Also i have my duo hooked up to my 27 " JVC D-series.. really nice tv, nice deep blacks

 

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 04:25:16 PM »
Only a 21" Panisonic in a mother f@cking kiosk yo!!! :P
Also i have my duo hooked up to my 27 " JVC D-series.. really nice tv, nice deep blacks

 


JVC made a killer CRT in the early 2000's. The "flat" ones like the one you have pictured, and the one that I use which is a little newer are fan-f*ckin'-tastic for vintage video games.

I haven't noticed any lag on my LCD playing games, but the lack of scanlines on LCDs/plasmas makes these old games look all blocky and just like shit in general. The LCD is great for newer consoles like the Dreamcast and Wii, but anything pre-Dreamcast I play on the JVC CRT.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 05:28:19 PM »
Old 51cm flat screen JVC CRT TV - as mentioned above these things are the best for retro gaming. They have an excellent noise filter too, makes a composite signal look like a component signal.

I also use an 82cm Grundig CRT with RGB scart input for my RGB consoles.

My main TV is a 50" Panasonic Plasma but retro consoles look like arse on newer TV's - unless you spend $500 on an encoder which I would never do.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 05:41:35 PM »
When I first got my Duo back I had just bought a Sony LCD TV, so I was anxious to use it. But I agree with nat; for the most part it makes all the sprites look blocky and just plain ugly (don't even get into stretching the image). This is exactly why I had such a horrible first reaction to the PCE Image Fight. The LCD just made it look awful. After that brief affair I went right back to the TV I used to play my TG on bitd: Sears 14" CRT. Good as gold. There's just no beating a CRT for the oldies.

Last year my brother gave me his old an gigantic CRT flat screen. I'd say it's a 24" TV and I think it's an RCA or JVC. Not a massive screen, but the TV itself is a beast. I just haven't set it up yet. I honestly prefer the smaller TV right now. Not as intrusive on space and I'm more prone to throw on a quick game here and there, or even a 3-4 saga from time to time.  :mrgreen:


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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 07:00:43 PM »
Quote from: nat

anything pre-Dreamcast I play on the JVC CRT.


Good call.  I'm the same way.  Anything pre-Dreamcast I play on a 20" CRT made by Toshiba.  Actually, the guts were made by someone else, but it is sold by Toshiba.  It has an excellent picture and features s-video and component inputs.  I lugged my Genesis with the RGB/component transcoder around with me store to store to test TVs.  I looked at certain things, especially dithering in Master System games and whatnot.  The reason was because many TVs would create weird lines in the dithering even via the component input.  I simply would not tolerate this.  Only one TV fit the bill and that was the Toshiba.  The others I tried from Sony and Samsung sucked.  The Samsung didn't even have s-video.  Pissed me right off... gotta have everything.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 07:59:35 PM »
I do keep a 20" toshiba crt that I bought new in 2006 just for the stuff that doesn't look right on the modern tv.  I had a 35" sony crt that died on me... that was the best tv for games. I wonder if they could make a "retro mode" on some of these new tvs to simulate the look of old crts... maybe even allow things like the sms phased or the super scope or guncon to work again..
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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 08:23:17 PM »
Sony Trinitron 29''.  Such a beautiful picture.  Equipped with 1x RGB, 2x Component, 3x S-Video, 4x Composite.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 08:49:25 PM »
29" Phillips Magnavox CRT dumpster-dived from the local campus move-out day. It has fade but it works.
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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2010, 09:03:13 PM »
Many LCDs did have lag when viewing low level analog inputs. I'm not sure how common this is anymore though.

I use a 27" JVC. There is some noise in the signal, but you just look through it after a while. Everything from my HandiFamiEight to my MVS (JROK s-video) to my Wii look pretty damn great on it.

After XMas I'll be getting some monstrous LCD for BluRays and Netflix and stuff. All the OG consoles will stay in the game room with the real TV though.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2010, 09:12:00 PM »
So the main problem with lcd's is the sprites? I've heard the older tv's are better to use for old game systems but I'm thinking my old tv is just in bad condition. I might be lookin into local craigslist or maybe a pawn shop to grab an old TV.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 09:49:55 PM »
Sprites have nothing to do with it. The same thing would happen with Final Fantasy VII or VHS.

The problem with LCDs (old crap ones anyway) is that the low spec analog signals like composite, s-video, etc have to be digitized and de-interaced and scaled to be usable to the digital portion of the set. This takes a fraction of a second. With a movie you don't notice it since they compensate for the lag by delaying the audio as well. With a game though, its pretty bad. As you said, not a big deal with an RPG, but with a fighting game or something...forget about it.

I'm actually not much of an expert on this since I only have old shit. I'm taking my MVS home for Xmas though, just so I can test it on my friends big new-ish Samsung. I want to see how things have progressed.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 02:47:51 AM »
I forgot to mention in my previous post that I play Dreamcast and later systems on a Sony 34XBR960 HDTV, the Dreamcast plays in 480p. I do NOT stretch any game to 16:9 unless the game itself supports it.  I don't mind playing 4:3 games with black bars on the sides of the image.  At least round things will be round, etc.  I cannot stand aspect ratio distortion.

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Re: What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 06:48:03 AM »
30 inch Toshiba, CRT 1080i HDTV. It's an HDTV and it's a CRT. The only issue with it is it has "seizure protection" which causes it to blink out in heavy flashing (charge attack in Aero Blasters, various light gun game flashes, Samurai Showdown all over).
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