Final fantasy 14 did so bad square enix did this

[geralds]

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c499e4c5df4f3f0fde1fb47a28574cb9c3991c9f

[BlueBMW]

  I guess Im glad I didn't pick that game up.

[SignOfZeta]

Dang. The thing must have really sucked if even a fan of modern day FF games couldn't stomach it.

Its so odd to me that you can replace the creative team of a game months after its release.

[BlueBMW]

Its so odd to me that you can replace the creative team of a game months after its release.

Yeah how does that work

[geralds]

heres ffxiv in a nut shell  5 zones 20 job to lvl basicly it oh wait  thegames verry laggy to the uses so frustaiting itss makes a simple task a chorei wana go buy something but wait no auction how so i have  seach a million  randamn people to find my said item 5 hours later  then 3  minutes after i buy it find it cheaper off someone ells.  I Want to craft ok play this mini game i want to go mining ok play this mini game i want to go logging ok play this mini game i wana go fight something ok press the number 1 on you key board a million times so you can attack. lol i could go on and on the number of numerus problems

[Arkhan]

heres ffxiv in a nut shell  5 zones 20 job to lvl basicly it oh wait  thegames verry laggy to the uses so frustaiting itss makes a simple task a chorei wana go buy something but wait no auction how so i have  seach a million  randamn people to find my said item 5 hours later  then 3  minutes after i buy it find it cheaper off someone ells.  I Want to craft ok play this mini game i want to go mining ok play this mini game i want to go logging ok play this mini game i wana go fight something ok press the number 1 on you key board a million times so you can attack. lol i could go on and on the number of numerus problems

Funny it doesnt lag for me.  I run it on max settings and pull 60fps. 

Your problems/complaints are kind of silly.  Everyone seems to have the same complaints, and quite honestly, if these are the complaints, go play WoW or one of its clones.  Thats what the complaining seems to gravitate towards... ITS NOT LIKE WOW, SO ITS NOT GOOD.  *yawn*

1) Crafting is interactive.  Would you rather have crafting be "click this button mindlessly 99 times, or wait for a meter to fill up" like it is in WoW?  Now you get to play some little meter games and have to pay attention.  Oh No!
2) Fighting, you know if you use OTHER attacks, you are more effective?  Mindless pugilists barely handle 2-3 enemies where mine sucker punches like 6+ at the same time no problem.
3) Shopping.  UO has the same market system.  Its fine if you arent a sissy.  Even so, craft your own items if its that hard, shout in town, use the online database that logs retainer inventories, or shop around before you complete purchases...that way you know you got the best deal.    They have the market wards organized by stuff, so its kind of easy to locate what you want.   The retainers even WEAR what theyre selling.  If you see one with a bow, odds are its selling a bow.  Etc. etc.

The game plays like a console RPG, and for some reason, all of the PC mmo players are peeing their panties because its not WoW w/ better graphics like they wanted. 

I think the games great myself, and im glad they did this.  All this means is my free trial is even longer! YES!

I explored the entire Uldah area w/ my Pugilist and switched her to archer recently, and have been exploring the Limsa Lominsa area on my Elf.   The games pretty frigging big with plenty to do.  Theres enough areas to run around in, levequests to do, and im not sure if the majority of people realize this, but theres a STORY you do also.  I haven't even messed with the Gridania areas yet.  I might, who knows.

The complaints are all dumb, and whiney.

Eventually Im sure an AH or searching feature is going to show up to make people happy.   The interface re-work wasnt NEEDED, but some of what they did is a nice addition.    They even added new quests to the leve-stuff, so theres more to do.

*shrug*  Time to keep playing. 


EDIT: also, there is an inaccessible town in the game that isn't available yet, and segments of the code have shown other classes are present but not unlocked....

So, my assumption is it will be like FF11, where new advanced jobs show up like Rise of the Zilart brought in FF11.

[geralds]

well aparently  mor epoepel find it a bother then likeing it .  All the complaint are there becosue they wana get things done faster then spend endless hour looking for stuff.  Not eever has the nolage  noes were the dated base are to fidn there stuff.  If the game wa sjust find at release then  there would have been way more people satified with the game.  Some peopel look passed the isues and inconvieniances of the game and liek witch is all realy personal oppinion.

[SignOfZeta]

Not eever has the nolage  noes were the dated base are to fidn there stuff. 

Apparently this game has had a debilitating effect on you.

So does anyone make normal JRPGs anymore? I mean, games were you don't have to farm, or ranch, or mine, or auction, or forge, or synthesize, or any of that horrendously torturous monotonous soul sapping bullshit? Games that aren't padded out to 90 hours when they should be 35, you know. I like games like Lunar or FFIV were you have XP and levels, simple. The weapons all come from chests or stores or key plot points. When the magic chick hits level 37 she gets Fire4, stuff like that. Are these still being made, or do I have to play 8/16-bit RPGs forever?

[TheClash603]

When the magic chick hits level 37 she gets Fire4.

I miss the days of numbered spells.  The fanciest it used to get was Magic Missile.

[geralds]

Well in terms of lack of content tho there was plenty.  I meen sure having 20 jobs to level isnt lack of conect.  When people say lack of content they want to do stuff other then just level a job.  At release you get to max level then what do you do nothing becouse there was realy nothng to do passed getting max level but go level a nothing job.  If you are familiar with ffxi how many people actualy had ever job max level very far and few did and i find this no differnt for ffxiv and for that reason i can see the lack of content complaint.

[Arkhan]

Not eever has the nolage  noes were the dated base are to fidn there stuff. 

Apparently this game has had a debilitating effect on you.

So does anyone make normal JRPGs anymore? I mean, games were you don't have to farm, or ranch, or mine, or auction, or forge, or synthesize, or any of that horrendously torturous monotonous soul sapping bullshit? Games that aren't padded out to 90 hours when they should be 35, you know. I like games like Lunar or FFIV were you have XP and levels, simple. The weapons all come from chests or stores or key plot points. When the magic chick hits level 37 she gets Fire4, stuff like that. Are these still being made, or do I have to play 8/16-bit RPGs forever?

Well you have to remember FF14 is an MMO, so the economy-simulation and resource gathering has to be there. Its not too soul sapping, and actually happens at a relatively quick pace.

Fishing is literally a game.  You have to pick a depth, wait for a bite, and then time a meter to get the fish!

This is the first MMO to make crafting and resource gathering have some amusement to it.

Theres plenty of content, and people just choose to ignore it because theyre jackasses.    There are quests for EVERY job, be it fishing, cooking, archery.

There are quests for factions within the towns that you can participate in that are pretty neat, quests for various regions outside of town that are somewhat random, and worth doing.

and then theres the story-line questing.... 

on top of having ALL the jobs accessible.
and having quests at your respective jobs guildhouse as well....


Theres plenty of content to keep you busy.  The games been out 2 months.  There will be more content.

If you find that you have already exhausted all of the games content, I have a really great idea:

get off your ass and go do something else.  Clearly you've been planted in front of the game too long.


The NIS rpgs of late seem to be pretty good at delivering classic-like RPG elements as opposed to dicking off playing offline-mmo nonsense like FF12 did.   

Sometimes theres "synthesis" bullshit, but half the time its really simplistic, or can be avoided in its entirety

[geralds]

I agree there will be more but people rather have it now then later thats the hole isue. People you constantly complained that played beta were angry they werent lisened to.  You right theres plenty to do but the point is people want to feel rewarded for doing what they do.  Agan tho not everone wants to level ever single job in the game some like to level a job to max level and do something with it  not oo max level time to level a nothing one.  There is plenty of content agan the isue is what do i get for having my job max level not much of anything but oo i got i max lvl time to level something ells.  Like in final fantasy 11 you got max level you could uses it to do end game  get better gear and forward youself not just oh nothing ells to do  but level a nother job.  There also the people who get board of non stop level grinding and want to do something  that a lower level can do.  Why do said quest what do i get for it is it even worth the reward what alot of people care about the reward sucks people will ignor it unless its required to do a nother quest were the reward is great.  In Final fantasy 11 even after 5  years of playing there not many wo have all jobs leveled becouse alot dont care they level there job to do soemthing with it not just to have it leveled then go level a nothing job.  Some people want a not worthy reson to level multi jobs then just beouse its the only real content avalable for the most part.

[Arkhan]

I beta'd the game when it was CLOSED beta also.

The people complaining are ignorant, really.

The are all these faction quests that you can do by spending the points you've accumulated from the other levequests.  People are too stupid/lazy/clueless to realize you can do those.

This is what I say to everyone complaining about FF14



I'm willing to bet money half the people or more who are bitching, havent even done any of the storyline stuff past the first tutorial-like quest that gets you into town.

And I'm willing to bet people ignore the Job-Guild quests which have rewards related to new abilities for your character that are unobtainable otherwise.

The games not spoon fed to you. You're expected to walk around and talk to the NPCs and find stuff.    People are so used to WoW that they don't bother.  They stare at the radar like O_O and watch for !'s (new quests!) and ?'s (Turn ins for quests!)


And then they want this:




My catwhore Pugilist/Archer is awesome.  

[geralds]

Basicly that is they want to be told how to play the game  not figure it out themself.  And you right now one does the quest becouse 1 they dont even know if the reward is worth all the trouble.  I know some people who did the main story mission and they still got board becouse they didnt no what to do once they got max level. I told them go level a nother job i got laughed at  and said if i wanted to level that job i would whats the point i got this job i should be able to play so they raged quit.  Iv talked to alot of the people i met in the game they could care less what they add they wont come back so its a pretty sad state for the game.  I remember even telling people do these quest they said there stupid no good reward.  When 1 person quite others followed becose of word of mouth get max level you can do shit lack of content.

Take final fantasy 11 for example there shit tons of content no one ever does.   I bet 60% of the content is never done or used becouse the reward sucks.  70% of the quest no one ever does.  No one ever did wings of the godess expantion mission till recently when they saw omg nice reward.  The second they made a something better boom ever drop that content and never cares no more if your a new player and you never experianced the content you may never get to see it.  You just end up getting trolled and made fun of buy the mass player base.  The few people who want to do it are so few and far there hard to find anyway. 

[Arkhan]

I did the wings of the goddess content the day it was released.  I dont know what you are talking about.


The whiners on FF14 are sissies that dont want to try anything except cookie cutter spoon fed gaming.  They're used to WoW, and are too braindead to deviate from it