Final fantasy 14 did so bad square enix did this

[geralds]

what i meen is like the mission and stuff no one hardly ever did it.   I know hows  a 100 people still on like the 3rd mission.  I know tons of people who never done a campagn ops. I asked them why they never did mission basicly reard sucked.  alot of people who didnt play at the start of the game didnt even know what half the nm in the game were.  I  told people about half the quest offered in the game they said sounds like what what the reward then turned around and said it sucked.  Regardless there still a ton of content in ff11 that never got done but most people.  I find it rare to find  anyone with more then 5 to 10 jobs leveled to max level becouse they didnt care.  Sure all the content was done buy someone at some point but the avaerage person probaly hasnt even done halve the content in the game becouse they dont care dont want to try ect...

[Arkhan]

so I don't understand your point.

You're saying FF11 was good because it had tons of content noone ever touched

and FF14 is bad because it doesnt have as much content that noones going to touch?

[geralds]

No more liek ff14 done have enough stuff that peopel feel rewarding and that just dont wana spam leveljob only.  The point i was trying to make with 11 was how  despite all the conent in there at least half of its never touch becouse it dont give a rewards peopel find worth getting to do said thing.   Like conent do this quest i gives 8k gil and most peopel ar elike na not worth it if it was like a 5 minute quest.  Or how most  people didnt even bother to touch wing of the goddess till recently becosue it realy didnt give any reward people tho would make it worth doing.  Now days in ffxi no one will do most hadly any of the end game becouse people find  all the rewards worthless.  So there just goes more conent that if you are new player you will never experiance more then likely.  The isue with 14 is more then likely they will have basicly all them quest done by the tiem they hit max level then what do they do go levela nothign job just not what some peopel want to do.  If more people didnt have an isue with leveling ever single job i bet we would not realy seen any complants about lack of content.

[Arkhan]

Theres plenty to do, and the rewards are fine.  I am not seeing the problem.   8k gil for 5 minutes of time is pretty nice, I don't know wtf is the problem with that.

and then theres the faction and story stuff that most people are too stupid to do apparently.


All I am seeing is WoWfags bitching because they cant faceroll and click on widgets and horse shit the whole time theyre playing.

[geralds]

i can see were lac of content comes from regardless when it come to the fact peopel dont want to spam level ever job to max level.  If they cant convince more peopel to play the games just gona get more hurtso there is a good reson  peopel dont want to play that you just dont see or look passed it.  If the game was fine from the start then isue like this wouldnt have happened.  My real only complaint i have is im tried of game game crashing on my server lagging me out ect.. passed that im like you enjoy the game and see nothign rong with it.

[Arkhan]

You're missing the point.

There is content.  People are just stupid and don't realize it and choose not to participate in it.   They're mostly in WoW-style mode where their goal is to blast to max level before everybody else, wave their dicks around and go IM THE BEST AROUND, NOTHINS EVER GONNA KEEP ME DOWN.     and then they complain cause theres no end-game raids to grind for gear and shit.



Ask all the whiners how much of the story or faction stuff they actually did. 

[geralds]

Your missing the fact peopel dont wanat to spam level multi jobs that the isue were there lack of content.  If ever had 0 problems with level ever single job there would be less complaints about lac of content.  People want to level i job and be able to use it and at launch after you got max level there was nothign ells to do but level a job so peopel said there lack of content becosue no way to truely utalize the job after you hit max level.

[Arkhan]

Your missing the fact peopel dont wanat to spam level multi jobs that the isue were there lack of content.  If ever had 0 problems with level ever single job there would be less complaints about lac of content.  People want to level i job and be able to use it and at launch after you got max level there was nothign ells to do but level a job so peopel said there lack of content becosue no way to truely utalize the job after you hit max level.

Well heres the thing, they're doing it wrong, again.

The game is DESIGNED to have you be multiple jobs.  If they don't understand that, I suggest they learn how to read.  Thats been apparent since before the game launched.

FF11 had this too.  It was called Subjobs.   You are more effective as a character if you have multiple jobs.

If people blasted to max level and couldn't figure out what to do, they should go back to playing WoW, because its clear thats the only game they comprehend the mechanics to.

If all you want is a monsterslaying level grind to the top, quit now, go play something else. 

[geralds]

Your missing the fact peopel dont wanat to spam level multi jobs that the isue were there lack of content.  If ever had 0 problems with level ever single job there would be less complaints about lac of content.  People want to level i job and be able to use it and at launch after you got max level there was nothign ells to do but level a job so peopel said there lack of content becosue no way to truely utalize the job after you hit max level.

Well heres the thing, they're doing it wrong, again.

The game is DESIGNED to have you be multiple jobs.  If they don't understand that, I suggest they learn how to read.  Thats been apparent since before the game launched.

FF11 had this too.  It was called Subjobs.   You are more effective as a character if you have multiple jobs.

If people blasted to max level and couldn't figure out what to do, they should go back to playing WoW, because its clear thats the only game they comprehend the mechanics to.

If all you want is a monsterslaying level grind to the top, quit now, go play something else. 

Yes but in final fantasy 11 you dont have to fully level the job.  Even if they don't there is still something to do with there character.  They no what to look forward a head of time no liek in 14 were you don't no anything befor hand witch i think is what people want. They dont want to be told we will add it later they want to know right now what they can do.  Seond what is the point of all this content and other stuff if there just not enough people to do anythign ebcosue the game requires muli people.  I think if people don't start playing that will hurt the game more then the game it self sucks.

Like they classic example of at least wing of the goddess in ff11 no one even cared to do most of the mission till they found out the reward for finishing it was. They did not go on the hope oh later it will have an amazing reward they did it to the point they go the rewards they wanted. The average person stoped after unlocking campagn battle.  When they added walk of echos people who cared for it when they new the reward did a tad more wings of the goddes to unlock it.  Despite the fact the mission set is finish most ever one i know is only like on the 3rd or 4th mission out of like 55 becouse there was no reward they found worth it in the beggining.

Wow set the standards for mmo and games like finall fantasy 11 or 14.  Games like final fantasy are just not solo friendl or casualy friendly enough.  I know its a mmo and shouldnt be solo friendly but people like that for some stupid reson.

[Arkhan]

WoW didn't set the standards for FF11.  FF11 was BEFORE WoW came out.  FF14 is distinctly different from WoW.   That's a good thing.  All of the non-wow MMOs are better.  Anarchy Online is nothing like WoW, and it is going strong after like 10 years.  The same goes for Ultima Online. 

You do realize that FF11 was out for an entire game before the western world got it?  We got the game for the first time at the same time that Japan got Rise of the Zilart.   So we launched with a game+expansion.  You can't expect an MMO to be a flawless, content filled gloryfest 2 months in.  No MMO has EVER been like that.  You just have a skewed perception of FF11's content.  We got it after an expansion added a ton of shit.  Some people (360 users) got it after Zilart and Promathia were out, and just in time for Aht Urghan.  Thats THREE expansions worth of content.   Over the course of 5+ years.  See how this works? Lol.


FF11 had long level grinding requirements to get to max level, so not requiring max level to do shit is sort of a moot point.   Its an accidental side effect of the steep level grind.

I haven't partied once in FF14 and I solo everything just fine.  I just did a faction quest by myself.  No problem. 

FF11 can be soloed if you know what you're doing, but it really wasn't meant to be solo.

and in that regard, WoW isn't solo friendly either so whats your point?   You can't solo ICC to grind out your gear and shit.  Its not possible.  You have to raid in groups.

[geralds]

wow set the starts for mmorpgs so it seemed not ff11.  Its not that just with so many mmos out the the developemnt time they took for ff14 people expect way more then they got.  What the point in all the content if no one comes back to have it utalized?  Even wow it self may not be the most solo friendly game ether is one of the more solo friendly games out so it seem.  If its truely not the content isue then no matter how much they add no ones will play or be satified with the game.

[Arkhan]

wow set the starts for mmorpgs so it seemed not ff11.  Its not that just with so many mmos out the the developemnt time they took for ff14 people expect way more then they got.  What the point in all the content if no one comes back to have it utalized?  Even wow it self may not be the most solo friendly game ether is one of the more solo friendly games out so it seem.  If its truely not the content isue then no matter how much they add no ones will play or be satified with the game.

No, WoW just took the MMO bar and dragged it down to retard-caliber gaming.

UO, AO, Asherons Call, Everquest, AND FF11 were all pre-WoW, and they're all going strong.   What you get post-wow is a bunch of wow-clones that newsflash: SUCK.

Remember the Vanguard: Saga of Heroes disaster?   A WoW clone that sucked so bad the company literally disappeared.  I beta'd this game.  It was a buggy clusterf*ck.

how about Lord of the Rings?  A wow clone with new graphics.  It sucks.  Everyone knows it.

Dungeons and Dragons Online?  It sucked so bad its free to play now!

Tabula Rasa was reworked to jock off of WoW's setup.   That game no longer exists.

and then theres all the free2play games that are WoW-o-licious, like Perfect World, and other boredom filled disasters.

The games that really end up succeeding are the ones that do it different.  FF14's whiney bunch of tools are going to leave, and the games going to explode into amazingness.  I guarantee it.

Its not like the game isnt crowded still anyways.

If you put ! and ?'s on the radar in FF14, and toolbars everywhere, I bet the WoW-tards would drop their pants in excitement.


Now, ill brb, got some story line content to do.

[geralds]

That is true but when you have more well established mmorpgs out there already kinda hard to pull crap like they did in 14.  Sure not  lack of content but not as much content  sence its a new mmo and i think thats were people got 1 thing with 14 rong people expected to be have as much content as an existing mmorpg for one.  If you notice alot of people keep comparing ff14 to exsting mmorpg that been out for years so of course they will have more content.

[Arkhan]

There was no crap pulled with FF14.

Everyone who logged in on day 1 expecting as much content as an MMORPG w/ 3+ expansions should have been taken out back and shot in the forehead.

They fixed the interface organization some to please the crybabies.

The games legit.  fat kids with dorito stained fingers cant cope.

[geralds]

I still think they could have done way better they spent 8 year making the game i meen i can undstand if the game was not developed as long.  they also beta tested the game and have numious complaints about stuff they didnt care to fix appon release.  I do know one thing that upset beta testers was  they werent lisened to it like wtf did they waist all that time beta testing for they werent lisened too.  From at least open beta to release all the fixed was come mouse lag.  The game can be defened all you like theres no dening this is one of the worst launches of a game period. 

The marketting system i can sea total complaints with too.  Id rather be undercutted for the conviniances of actualy being able to find gear i want.  The retainers reset ever  day or 2 not sure exact so i have to spend more frustraing time trying to sell stuff when  no one can find it to buy it anyway.  When i do find gear its ether to high or to low.  I can shout all i want i find it at a price im not willing to pay or  how do i know if its worth it.  I can check many of the website that make it more conveniant but they could say something is here you go look for to ond out its not there becouse the retainers reset and someone didnt bother to put there retainer back.  I have to check each indivdual person to see what items tthere sellign ti find out they only want reapairs of other crap.  I have even seen some peopel shout to find what they want to come up emty handed 4 hours later ebcouse the peopel selling said item are afk trying to sell there crap.  There nothing bout being lazing in a systesm you try to fidn shit but still cant.  I ill just gear up my job with higher level gear and be al kimp for the frustration it takes to find gear of the proper level to only go out and die faster then shit becouse of my gear then having to get it repared faster then it should be repared.  They need an ah system like ffxi or make the  retainrs at least not reset ever 2 day.  I log in to see if i sold anything to fidn out myretainer was resetto the point no one could see it.

Another things is i see no point in all this extra content if no oen is around to utalize it.  I dont no about the server you are but the server im only dont have enough peopel to do shit there 1 gtruely active ls with enough people to do shit.  EVey other ls keeps trying to get short handed becouse people keep quiting the game.

One complaint i have is  the linkshell system.  TO add someoen you have to be right in front of the person to invite them well o just like ffxi so no complaint there.  ! thing tho why do peopel who arent even logged int he game clutter  up your linkshell they will never log in you coudl just kick them but wait you cant you have to hunt them down and figure out were in the game they are but seence there never logging in becosue they  quite how on earth do you kick them.  Yuo could say make a new but there should be no reson to have to do that.  Then you have times when someones being a jack ass and oh there making more problems then its worth but agan you cant kick them ok find no problem but agan you have hunt them down but wait were in the game are they there current location does not pop up.

Party system i h can see some people who have an isue becouse some peopel do not want to solo in the game.  WIth the party system  you cant do a seach function to see who wants a party you have to be lucky and have a ls who does it reguarly or shout.  To invite them you have to hunt them down agan  and be right next to them to invite them even if youin the same zone  why should you have to be right next to them.  AT lauch while this was  fixed launch anyway did not even dispaly party members on you mobs so  you lose them you have to ask were did you go i lost you.


So how out side of lack of content i sure i dont see how people couldnt get mad at the game.  Yes all the isues can get fixed but agan they betaed the game and had numious complaint they they didnt even bother to fix just launched the game regardless that pretty sad imo.  The one and only thing i noticed ixed from open beta to retail was  some shit mouse lag.  80% of the people were not happy with the game for one reson who aa nother and i can see people who betaed the game being more pissed off then people who didnt becouse the perpose of beta testers is to fix any isues and they realy didnt lisen. i had a freind who played beta and i saw changes ever now and then but no major changes they they should have adressed  for release. 

Sorry for the wall of text but you fail to see how  they treated teh game from beta to retail and why peopel got psised off you seem to look passed it and say it will improve when peopel didnt want to many problems from the start.