Final fantasy 14 did so bad square enix did this

[Arkhan]

Geralds, you can't say its a repeat of Vanguard.  You weren't there for Vanguard and didn't experience an ounce of that travesty.    You never knew about the game until a day ago when I made you look it up, lol.

The game being discounting argument you seem to rely upon so much means little.  MANY MMO type games drop in price fairly quickly (look at Star Trek online, etc).

Typos happen, but for the love of god use a spellchecker PLEASE.  My eyes burn trying to decipher these grammar/spelling nightmares.

After the 3rd or 4th post I got used to it, lol.


Anyway, theres a new update coming tomorrow http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/28543-december-version-updates-12142010/

with another planned at the end of the month.  Thats some speedy addressing and fixing of issues if you ask me.

On top of it being free to play for now.   Yay.


Geralds, when was the last time you actually played the game then?  It doesn't sound like it was lately.   Also, read reviews of the game post Thanksgiving update.   The tune of most has changed significantly.

You say "until we see more reviews", well there they are.  People reviewing post-Update.   Did you even bother to look?

The PS3 isn't going to be the games salvation.  PS2 launch of FF11 didn't do anything except introduce retards to the land of MMOs.   PS3 may do the same.   Console gamers have little concept of how MMOs work, so I can't wait for the hilarity to ensue yet again.


"HOW DO I SAVE" <<< Best PS2 question on FF11, ever.

[geralds]

Oh sorry 14 sucks so badly i forgot how to spell.

[Arkhan]

Oh sorry 14 sucks so badly i forgot how to spell.

well now you're just being stupid and making your arguments even more invalid.

[geralds]

lol basicly becouse you still basicly defenidn a game from a compnay this shouldnt have happened on regardless becouse unliek sigil with vangard square enix already had a mmorpg they release even if there fixing the luanch problems are still uncalled for.

[Arkhan]

I'm defending a game that has no problems other than whiney pussies complaining that the game isn't wow.

It's a PEBKAC kind of dilemma, and unfortunately, Square has to deal with it.

You can't spell masses without asses, and thats what most of the MMO world is made up of.

also are you deliberately spelling/typing like a retard, or what.  Sometimes you're fine and other time your posts are like a cross between Corky and Arnie.


All those red underlined words in your posts are ones that spellchecker thinks you screwed up.  Please fix them.  If you can't do that, it's no wonder you don't like FF14

[geralds]

i never use spell checker lol.  Na its not dilibarately spellign bad just how i am.  There no winny pussies lol the game has some serious problems your ove rlookign them.  Iv been lookign up recent update if this continues it will just be ff11 with new story and world all over agan there rehashing the same mobs all over agan not even changing the way they look.  This game is no differnt from vangard tho  both games were rushed befor ready plain and simple.

[Arkhan]

i never use spell checker lol.  Na its not dilibarately spellign bad just how i am. 

Might want to start man.

There no winny pussies lol the game has some serious problems your ove rlookign them.  Iv been lookign up recent update if this continues it will just be ff11 with new story and world all over agan there rehashing the same mobs all over agan not even changing the way they look. 

Well, I'm pretty sure the following is whining:

"My mouse lags because my computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements"
"I don't like having to click these things in the menu to do this, make it easier, 3 clicks is too many"
"The market confuses me.  I'm too lazy to look at retainers, or visually confirm that the retainer is wearing things I may want to own"
"Theres no content.  All I did was grind to level 30 and now im bored.  Theres no content.  Nevermind the story quests, and other quests all over town.  Theres no content."
"Theres quests but I didn't do them, because theres no ! on the radar telling me where to go"
"I keep pressing the same button in combat, now im bored.  I ignored the other 8 abilities my character has.  Im bored.  Its your fault SquareEnix."
"Theres no content.  I didnt really look, but I know its not there because this game sucks"

Who cares if they're going to recycle bits of FF11.  more power to them.  Its not like the fantasy MMO isn't constantly recycled and reshaped in EVERY MMO.    Im glad they're recycling FF11.  FF11 was great.  It deserves to leave its legacy in the form of things in FF14 borrowing from it.

The people whining that FF14 is to easy/contentless, were the same people whining that FF11 was too hard and took too long to do stuff.

There is a game just for them.  its called World of Warcraft.  The hardest part of that game is installing it!

This game is no differnt from vangard tho  both games were rushed befor ready plain and simple.

Because you were totally present at the launch of Vanguard, and have tons of experience with it, being a game you heard about for the first time, like, yesterday.

Stop saying they are the same thing, because they're not.  Not even close.


One is a mechanical disaster, and the other is full of things sissies dont like.

[geralds]

One point tho agan what do you do at max level?  What do you get for being max level?  Tho quest can only do you so much tho.  How is fun repeating the same quest over and over.  Mouse lag wasnt people require ments tho it was the game and was adressed at games release.  Lag problems even square enix says theres lag problems.  Retainer system sucks you dont have to be lazy   some peopel can look all day but the system is broke.  Look all day and what do you get you find the item you have no other prices to compare to to see if it worth or you might not somethign after 5 to 10 hours of looking. 

My experiance with retainer system its not about being lazy i had no problem with it till i relized i was spending 5+ hours a day or droping everything for a week of looking for crap when id rather see an ah system for conveniance and so ill no withing 5 minutes if i will find what i want no look 5 hours thats retarted.   I dont no other people beef other then thee lazy  but i my problems with the system have nothing to do with being lazy.  When looking for weapon i dont find it all the bad but i when it comes to gear or synthing materials i find it a total shit place. Also what if a retain selling more then 1 weapon or type of gear they sure wont ware both. Another isue is you find what you want then some idiot prices it max gil for the hell of it thats retarted agan the system is just flawed atm.  For the time it takes to find what you want id rather just  play the game all gimped then waist my time  have 0 fun.

My friend who quite for wow he met the requirements the recomended and he still lagged.  Sure not as bad  as someone like me becouse i sure its my pc problems but still lagged none the less.

Well ya even people who like games like wow complain about ff11 menue system not being user friendly.

The content complain is they want so much content that over half of it just gets ignored.

The ff11 stuff wasnt relealy a complain i was just noting lack or originaly there but  as you said not a bad thing at all.

There is somethign vangard must have done better that 14 didnt reviews game is way better reviews at launch then 14.  I just find it odd that you say ff14 had a better launch yet vangard got  better reviews in the end anyway. When i say the same i meen there both just games the were rushed befor ready.

[Arkhan]

One point tho agan what do you do at max level?  What do you get for being max level?  Tho quest can only do you so much tho.  How is fun repeating the same quest over and over.  Mouse lag wasnt people require ments tho it was the game and was adressed at games release.  Lag problems even square enix says theres lag problems.  Retainer system sucks you dont have to be lazy   some peopel can look all day but the system is broke.  Look all day and what do you get you find the item you have no other prices to compare to to see if it worth or you might not somethign after 5 to 10 hours of looking. 

Story mode.  Faction quests, crafting!  Try it all out.  Go exploring.  Welcome to online adventure games.  Theres more to the game than LEVELGRIND LOL.

Retainer system works, look at Ultima Online.   Its got the best player-run economy in the MMO world today. 

People are just sissies and do it wrong on ff14. I can clear the battlecraft ward in like 30 minutes and get what I want.  Im used to the UO market.  This is the same frigging thing.  Everyone else is used to typing in an item and going MM I WANT THAT ONE.  God forbid you have to shop around or think before you commit to buying the thing.    Its Flea Market vs. Ebay.    One requires you to develop shrewd shopping abilities and the other requires you to have a pulse, and a clicky finger.

Also its THREE GODDAMN  MONTHS INTO THE GAME.  Give it a bit of time to let the market work itself out into something awesome.  It can't just happen immediately.  Not everyone knows EVERYTHING about prices.  Over time its going to work itself out just the same way UO did.   Rome wasn't built in a day.

My experiance with retainer system its not about being lazy i had no problem with it till i relized i was spending 5+ hours a day or droping everything for a week of looking for crap when id rather see an ah system for conveniance and so ill no withing 5 minutes if i will find what i want no look 5 hours thats retarted.   I dont no other people beef other then thee lazy  but i my problems with the system have nothing to do with being lazy.  When looking for weapon i dont find it all the bad but i when it comes to gear or synthing materials i find it a total shit place. Also what if a retain selling more then 1 weapon or type of gear they sure wont ware both. Another isue is you find what you want then some idiot prices it max gil for the hell of it thats retarted agan the system is just flawed atm.  For the time it takes to find what you want id rather just  play the game all gimped then waist my time  have 0 fun.

If it takes you 5 hours to clear shopping, you are doing it wrong.   Seriously.  Also, you shouldn't need to shop constantly.  You're probably buying shit thats too high for your job and suffering from equipment scaling.  You need to shop like every 10-20 levels.

My friend who quite for wow he met the requirements the recomended and he still lagged.  Sure not as bad  as someone like me becouse i sure its my pc problems but still lagged none the less.

I didnt lag.  Neither did any of my friends who had what the game said to have.   Fix your settings.  Update your direct x.   The lag square refers to is client to server lag. 

Mouse lag/interface lag/movement lag, is your machine sucking.

There is somethign vangard must have done better that 14 didnt reviews game is way better reviews at launch then 14.  I just find it odd that you say ff14 had a better launch yet vangard got  better reviews in the end anyway. When i say the same i meen there both just games the were rushed befor ready.

Vanguards reviews at launch sucked.  Again, YOU WERENT THERE AT LAUNCH AND THAT WAS LIKE 3 YEARS AGO.  It was a terrible time.  Nothing says suck like running through a forest and falling through the ground.  Then your heads sticking out still so a monster comes and kills you.   AWESOME, right?

Heres what Vanguard did to get better

Step 1) Everyone on the Sigil team was fired by Sony
Step 2) Sony picked up the pieces.  Some people who didn't suck at Sigil got rehired.
Step 3) Sony fixed the game and salvaged what was left of it.

The reviews you see that are positive, are post-repair.  The team responsible for the game got canned like, way early in.  The game would have pummeled all who opposed had they had their shit together at Sigil.   The game had a TON of promise.  Beautiful environments, awesome classes, but the problems were too great and they didn't bother fixing them.   So, Vanguard fell in as being mediocre.

You can't compare the reviews of a game thats had like 3 years to fix itself, to a game thats been out 3 months.  Thats stupid.

Vanguard sucked bad at launch for more than just content reasons.   Legit bugs existed.  Total nightmare.

FF14's biggest problems are cranky wowtards not being happy with the content.  Meanwhile everyone with a brain is like "thats nice, im having fun.  Oh hey its free to play? Even better.  Hey, check out this story cutscene. OH MAN LETS RIDE THE BOAT"

Its legit. 

[geralds]

Its not just wow tards saying it sucks but ill give that id say 95% more then likely are.  What my friend was more or less experiancing was the server lag more then likely still noting he lagged regardless. I myself thot the menue system was laggy while some people did complain it was  to complex. I just thot it was laggy and frustrating to deal with at launch. 


What if im one of them people i dont want to craft what if i did the story quest already what do i use my character for nothing you say factin leve quest what if i already did said quest 400 times. There is only so much to explore there what like 5 areas only in the game and more then likely you will explore them all trying to level your character up. What i am trying to get at is what do you do with your character after  you have story quest done witch are not hard as all and you hit max level without having to resort to leveling a nother job. Without having to repeate the same quest over and over not leveling any other job at launch becouse they are actualy adding more what could you realy do with a max level character.  Notting they are adding more content im mostly refuring to at launch with what they had.

I still dont get the retainer system iv tried ever last sugesting in the book yes i have gear higher or to low becouse finding stuff my right level pisses me off to know end.  Do noted tho i beleave i joined one of the lowest populated servers at launch.  I am starting to think if your having less isues then i am then my hole problem is the low server population on my server. 

I thot all the reviews i saw for vangard would just launch  reviews for the most part.  You are right tho i wasnt there at launch for vangard so im just going by what i research and read up on vangard.

[Arkhan]

I doubt you did all the quests and faction stuff, and if you did, I suggest you go outside and enjoy the real world some.


as for the retainers, Im sorry you dont get something as simple as *Click on NPC* *see if stuff you want is there, buy it*

Now if you'll excuse me, the new update added snow and other xmas decorations to town.

I am going to go get festive on my catwhore.

[geralds]

No idea but its just makes a viable excuse  for some reson why peopel complained at launch. I got to experiance the hoel world at level 20 there wasnt much to exploor at all toom me 2 hours i exploored the hole game just not the content.  I dont play much becosue 1 i lag and 2 game shutdown to much on me.  I dont know why i shut downbut i can definaly say lag is my pcs fault there.  I ya im curuous to how the update improved the game.

[Arkhan]

Well considering level 20 isn't the max level.... I dont know what the hell you are complaining about

[geralds]

I am not complaining im just understand people is in whats the point in playing and getting to max level when at launch there was nothing to do.  I already know them mission and all the quest are quite easy.

[BlueBMW]

And the war rages on....