Turbo Grafx CD drive motor

[chriscomputers]

I'm done here.

[nikdog]

KSS-160 is the proper laser assembly for the TurboCD/CDROM2. KSS-210 or 220 is the same laser but different assembly.

[SignOfZeta]

Just thought I'd share this. I got lucky. Went to good will today and found an old Sony D-3 CD player. The lens is a Kss-160A not sure if that is compatible with a Turbo CD. However, the lens motor is the FF-050SH and it also has the special middle gear for Turbo CDs that always break.

Great news!

Well, sorta. D-3s are rare as hell.

[kid_rondeau]

...I found one supplier but they require at least $100 minimum order. Motor is FF-050SH

How many motors would you get for that price? I'm sure there's enough repair enthusiasts here to chip in for such a purchase...I know I would.

[yukin]

could it be the same motor as the pc engine duo-r ?

[SignOfZeta]

No, it isn't, but even if it were that wouldn't fix the problem since nobody wants to destroy a perfectly good PC Engine just to fix another PC Engine.

[Official Ninja]

Here is more information to consider.

My tg-cd had the warm up issue, gear was "stretched" looking and fell apart when i touched it. I replaced the gear with one sent to me from these forums. Still had a warm up issue.

Today I stopped by the electronics store to get a 5v fan for my trs-80 disk drive case. I look on the junk table and I see a NEC CDR-35D-01.
Its marked $5.00 so I grab it up and purchase it with my fan.

When i got home I plugged the tg-16 power adaper up to it and BINGO it starts playing my Ozzy Diary of a Madman disc. SCORE.

I hook the drive up to the tg-16 cd base unit and it doesnt work when i press run. BUT, if i press play music plays through the TV.

So, I get my broken drive, gut out the whole laser assembly. It was a 166(?) I then gutted the whole laser assembly from the 35D to the tg-cd drive.
Had to solder 4 wires is all.

Plug the TG-CD drive with 35D laser unit (220 type) in to my CD base unit and BAM! Perfect working tg-CD. Works perfect even reads CD-R like a dream.

For $5.00 !!!!

[kid_rondeau]

Very nice!
I just looked for one of those online...naturally no one has one for sale that I could find.

With our collective intelligence in this, I'm sure we will eventually solve the problems we face. It's inevitable!

[BlueBMW]

I wonder if the gear we sent you might be slightly off on dimensions.  I tried another gear from a good working unit in the donor unit (which had warm up trouble) and it worked perfectly.  That tells me the issue is in the gear.  I think they're either seizing on their axis or getting out of round and jamming up.

[nikdog]

Here is more information to consider.

My tg-cd had the warm up issue, gear was "stretched" looking and fell apart when i touched it. I replaced the gear with one sent to me from these forums. Still had a warm up issue.

Today I stopped by the electronics store to get a 5v fan for my trs-80 disk drive case. I look on the junk table and I see a NEC CDR-35D-01.
Its marked $5.00 so I grab it up and purchase it with my fan.

When i got home I plugged the tg-16 power adaper up to it and BINGO it starts playing my Ozzy Diary of a Madman disc. SCORE.

I hook the drive up to the tg-16 cd base unit and it doesnt work when i press run. BUT, if i press play music plays through the TV.

So, I get my broken drive, gut out the whole laser assembly. It was a 166(?) I then gutted the whole laser assembly from the 35D to the tg-cd drive.
Had to solder 4 wires is all.

Plug the TG-CD drive with 35D laser unit (220 type) in to my CD base unit and BAM! Perfect working tg-CD. Works perfect even reads CD-R like a dream.

For $5.00 !!!!

The 35D PCB is different then the 30A. But yea, if you put a 30A's PCB in the 35D it wil work with the TG16/PCE. It's what mine is. The middle is from a 35D, the lid, the PCB and the bottom are from my broken 30A.

[blueraven]

Okay I know some people have been having problems with these gears...

Is this you?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-and-PC-Engine-CD-Drive-system-duo-Repair_W0QQitemZ110639121586QQcategoryZ38583QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7026740014905995954

[kid_rondeau]

I saw that too...I gotta admit, it looks tempting. If that's legit, it sure seems like a viable option.

[BlueBMW]

I saw that too...I gotta admit, it looks tempting. If that's legit, it sure seems like a viable option.

$75 is an awful lot though.. I'd rather spend a bit more and get another CDROM2 and just wait til we get replacement gears for these things.

[kid_rondeau]

True, but the auction says he replaces the drive with a more reliable, two-gear system. I don't know what design he uses (probably just an existing, compatible setup), but if it really is more reliable, this may be a one-time fix. Whereas even if we fix the dreaded gear problem, there may be other drive train problems down the line.
I really don't want to sound pessimistic, though...nor do I want to sound overly faithful in a repair service that hasn't been personally vetted by someone on these forums (that I know of).
I'm just sayin', that I have three TG-CD's, and I would totally pay the ~$100 each for several years of trouble-free operation and Turbo gaming that would get me.

As a matter of interest, I emailed him asking him if he warranties his work at all, and if so, how long. He said "60 days unless a cap dies immediately afterward, but that kind of thing is hard to predict." (paraphrased)

[Charlie]

Some food for thought:
It seems to me that the "2-gear" statement should be a hot button.  If the original gear train had 3 gears, and this one has two gears, then it must be more than a simple drive-train replacement.  There are two issues:
1. The final gear in these two possible gear-trains rotate in opposite directions (even number of gears vs. odd number of gears).   This means that either the motor has to replaced also, or the original motor has to be re-wired to run in the opposite direction.
2. Spacing between the ends of the gear trains would have to remain the same mechanically, which means the gears themselves would obviously be bigger.  This means different gear rations; which in turn means different speeds.  Yet, the final CD drive speed needs to be the same, obviously...or at least close.  Or, the motor speed control circuit is either changed or at the least, re-tuned (if possible).

It would be prudent for someone to actually avail themselves of these services, and see what happens.

Charlie