What games do you love that you think others give short shrift?

[Arkhan]

Newspaper Headline: "Tipper Against Gore...In Video Games."

I loled.


Hey why didn't Turbob get a fkin Ninjer Turtles game.

[KingDrool]

Of the games released right around launch, I think The Legendary Axe might've been the best choice. Hell, if Sega could get away with packing in Altered Beast, The Legendary Axe would've looked like an amazing deal.

Keith Courage wasn't a bad game, but it certainly wasn't a system-seller. I remember when I got my Turbo, I enjoyed it, but certainly wasn't blown away. Not that Legendary Axe would've knocked my socks off either. Too bad they didn't have Bonk at launch. That would've been the golden ticket.

[Dyna138]

Thanks guys. 

Yeah, KC definitely isn't as bad as many make it out to be. Was it the best choice for a pack-in game? That's another discussion. I personally love the music and sound on KC. Totally unique and Turbofied.

Yeah the music in Keith Courage is very catchy, I still remember the action stage theme. I'm gonna have to give this game another go again soon for nostalgia's sake.

I remember the cheesy TG16 commercials where they showed the last boss in Legendary Axe that's what made me want to get a Turbo when I was a kid. I think Bonk's Adventure would have made the best pack-in overall since Bonk was pretty much the Turbo's mascot, but I'm not sure if Bonk was a launch title or not.

[nat]

A pack-in is supposed to serve two purposes: sell systems, and give gamers a good first impression when they actually play, so they buy more games.

I think Keith Courage did an okay job giving gamers a good impression when they finally powered it up. There's no denying the graphics and music especially are distinctly "16-bit." I remember googling over how real the ice blocks looked in stage 5.

Where Keith Courage failed, is in selling systems. Before I owned a TG-16, I had never heard of Keith Courage. And even if I had, it's not the sort of game that I would've seen a screenshot of and said, "I want the Turbo over the Genesis." Keith Courage was a no-name game and virtually zero street buzz surrounding it.

In the case of SEGA and Altered Beast, I think things went the complete opposite direction. Everybody knew about Altered Beast because of the arcade. Altered Beast was a success in selling systems which is arguably more important than simply impressing the buyer, since once you've bought the system, there's a much better chance you're going to buy games for it.

Keith Courage is a decent (heck, even good) game, and it's clear to me the reason they picked it as a pack-in. Unfortunately, it was too obscure to successfully sell systems, which is really 3/4 of the battle. As soon as Bonk was released, they should have pulled Keith as the pack-in and replaced it with Bonk's Adventure like SEGA did with the Altered Beast/Sonic switch.

[Black Tiger]

I think that R-Type would have made the best pack-in. As an impressive showcase of what the hardware could do and as far as name recognition, it was the highest profile game early on. Plus it would have had better word of mouth, as people would still be enjoying it far longer than Altered Beast.

[bernielindell]

I think that R-Type would have made the best pack-in. As an impressive showcase of what the hardware could do and as far as name recognition, it was the highest profile game early on. Plus it would have had better word of mouth, as people would still be enjoying it far longer than Altered Beast.

I second that.

[thrush]

I liked reading Nat's thoughts on this.

I also think Black Tiger may be onto something with R-Type.  I have noticed that the people I talk to about the PCE/TG16 in real life all mention this game....  I would think more people would associate Bonk with it, but so far R-Type is the only thing the uninitiated seem to know from the system at all.

[blueraven]

Was RTYPE released on the Genesis?

I DO NOT KNOW HUMAN

[Dyna138]

I also think Black Tiger may be onto something with R-Type.  I have noticed that the people I talk to about the PCE/TG16 in real life all mention this game....  I would think more people would associate Bonk with it, but so far R-Type is the only thing the uninitiated seem to know from the system at all.

For me its been Splatterhouse that most of my friends, who never owned a TG16, remember and associate the system with. It would have made a pretty killer pack-in I think.

Was RTYPE released on the Genesis?

I DO NOT KNOW HUMAN

As far as I know R-type was released on the Master System and TG16, not the NES, SNES or Genesis.

[roflmao]

R-Type was what sold me on the system.  I had a Sega Master System and loved playing R-type and when I saw my friend's TG-16 playing R-Type (and HEARD it!) it blew my mind. 

As a pack in, though?  I don't know.  If you put your mind to it you can beat Keith Courage.  R-Type on the other hard is freakin' HARD.  And I think hardcore shmup fans have always been a pretty small group, though it was clearly one of the best early games for fans of that type of game.

I agree that they should have swapped out Keith Courage with Bonk's Adventue the SECOND it was available.

[Arkhan]

If I was coherent when the system launched, I myself would've been all over Keith Courage.  I'm probably in the minority on that though (I like Hydlide.  I'm f*ckin stupid, remember?)..

It has =3 anime crap, robots, and walking handguns.   It's also got wonky music, sweet platforming/action, and some really random nonsense, like cats falling out of the sky.  I much prefer it over Altered Beast.

If the US was aware that the game was based off this (aka: If we had the show on TV in USA):

I'm pretty sure people would've at least known what the f*ck the game was and been like OH COOL.  Cartoon game!

There weren't any US saturday morning cartoon games made (thank god.  I don't think a Thundercats game in the spirit of Dickwang Duck would have made anyone happy)

Legendary Axe would have been a better idea for a pack in, and the obvious bonk swap when possible. 

Also, calling Keith Courage something less moronic would have been a better idea too.  Something like "Legend of the Alpha Sword" or "Novaman vs the Machines" or something that sounds cool. 

Keith Courage sounds like some jackass you read about in an anti-drug cartoon in 4th grade.  KEITH COURAGE IS BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY NO TO METH.  BE LIKE HIM KIDS.

Having RType as a pack-in wouldn't have helped probably.  I don't think shooter packins are system sellers, especially since most people I know blow at them or don't prefer them when given the choice of shooter or platformer/arcade beat em up.  RType is brutal.  Lots of little kids prefer jumping around as opposed to dodging things.

[Tatsujin]

R-Type was what sold me on the system.  I had a Sega Master System and loved playing R-type and when I saw my friend's TG-16 playing R-Type (and HEARD it!) it blew my mind. 

I didn't even ever once played PCE R-Type, when I already knew that I must have this system one day. It was just a picture in one of the game mags back then in early 1988.

I was and still I am a huge R-Type fan. Played it on arcade, c64, sms and amiga. Needless to mention, that those PCE R-Type screen shots in that particular mag literally blew me out of my socks.

It crushed every to known port with a little wink.

[Black Tiger]

[_joshuaTurbo]

As far as I know R-type was released on the Master System and TG16, not the NES, SNES or Genesis.

SNES did however get the amazing Super R-Type and R-Type III complete with Mode 7. 

Haha, no 8bet system can do mode7.

Why get a turbographix with regular old r-type when SNES has all the noor super ones with Mode7 and REAL 16-bit sownds???

[Arkhan]

because TURBO GRAFX OBEYS WHAT NINTENDONT.