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KingDrool

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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 11:26:05 AM »
Listen man, my intent was not to get into some sort of internet pissing match. Nor do I feel like arguing about the pure economics behind the way Hudson USA chose to reissue their old games But really: put ports out on a download service at $6 a pop, or produce, package and ship a compilation that maybe 2,000 people will buy for $30?  Despite the fact that this tiny community loves the PCE/Turbo, the general audience for it is relatively tiny, making their release decisions a lot more understandable in retrospect.

But I digress... I was simply lamenting the fact that rather than saying, "Aw, that's a shame. A long era, though we all probably saw it coming, has come to an end" the immediate responses were, typically, negative. (Sorry I didn't comb the archives to look for conversational nuances). I didn't expect a love-in for the Hudson that we've come to know over the past decade or more, but maybe a kind sentiment before the thrashing. And no, it's not a trait that's unique to this particular forum, but it is one that I've noticed quite a bit around here. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anyway, sorry about all of this. I regret saying anything and will now go back to my semi-lurker status.
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2011, 11:43:52 AM »

But I digress... I was simply lamenting the fact that rather than saying, "Aw, that's a shame. A long era, though we all probably saw it coming, has come to an end" the immediate responses were, typically, negative. (Sorry I didn't comb the archives to look for conversational nuances). I didn't expect a love-in for the Hudson that we've come to know over the past decade or more, but maybe a kind sentiment before the thrashing. And no, it's not a trait that's unique to this particular forum, but it is one that I've noticed quite a bit around here. Nothing more, nothing less.


What's wrong with pointing out that this "era has come to an end" happened LONG ago.  Just like the modern incarnation of Sega (or so many other companies) are far cries from their "glory years"

Also constantly whining about the negativity, etc. repeatedly is doing the EXACT same thing you're complaining about. ;)  If people are so unsatisfied with the "experience/vibe" here...why continue to come here if it's always such an issue?
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 11:50:18 AM »
Nintendo begs to differ.
No... you can thank NOA for Nintendo's success in the USA. And furthermore, Nintendo is an exception in the sense that they produce mountains of cash cow franchise releases... they sell based on their name and their name alone. It has nothing to do with foreign market savvy of the parent company.

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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 11:53:57 AM »
Again, sorry I brought it up. (Although the pointing out the negativity adds to the negativity is a great argument. You should be a politician). But yeah, sorry I mentioned it. Let's just let it go.

Here, I'll reboot the thread:

Hey guys! They just announced that Hudson USA is being shut down and Konami's taking over. They haven't exactly had a shining release record these past few years, but it's a shame that this era is coming to an end, like so many great publishers before them. That said, they seemed to at least put out a few great titles in the past decade, (Lost in Shadow, the XBLA/PSN and DS versions of Bomberman) and they made an effort to spread awareness of the TurboGrafx-16 and PC Engine consoles.

So while they were far from perfect, let's pour one out for the folks at Hudson and hope Konami will try to keep the legacy alive.
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 12:20:22 PM »
Again, sorry I brought it up. (Although the pointing out the negativity adds to the negativity is a great argument. You should be a politician). But yeah, sorry I mentioned it. Let's just let it go.

Here, I'll reboot the thread:

Hey guys! They just announced that Hudson USA is being shut down and Konami's taking over. They haven't exactly had a shining release record these past few years, but it's a shame that this era is coming to an end, like so many great publishers before them. That said, they seemed to at least put out a few great titles in the past decade, (Lost in Shadow, the XBLA/PSN and DS versions of Bomberman) and they made an effort to spread awareness of the TurboGrafx-16 and PC Engine consoles.

So while they were far from perfect, let's pour one out for the folks at Hudson and hope Konami will try to keep the legacy alive.

I agree we need to show a little respect for the company. I've spent more time play bomber man with my bothers than a lot of other games.

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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 12:42:40 PM »
I love the Hudson legacy.  Sad to see the entity come to an end, but the legacy will live forever.
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 02:06:44 PM »
As long there are still PC Engines and Hudson games for it, everything is ok. We still can do obey every day. That's all what counts really.

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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 03:31:08 PM »
I hate to contribute more negativity, but this does worry me. Taito was swallowed by Square Enix. Hudson is now wholly engulfed by Konami. It's true that Hudson (Japan, US, doesn't matter) was really not participating in the market in a quality fashion, but will Konami steward the titles and legacy any better? Konami's managed to survive, but they haven't exactly been responsive to US gamers either, and their output has been hit and miss as well. Capcom is probably the company doing best out of all the non-Nintendo Japanese publishers and they're one of the few properly extending their classic franchises into a new era.

I feel for the Hudson Entertainment employees. From the blog post it sounds like there was a lot of uphill battling, which is, frankly, what often happens when you're the US branch of a Japanese firm. There's a bigger question here, though. I read a recent article in the NY Times about how Japanese youth, recent college graduates and workers in their 20s and 30s, are being basically given short shrift by the big corporations. Japan is top-heavy age-wise, and they societal elders are relying on tradition and power to keep themselves in that position. Good jobs, good pay, and any kind of power and influence are being kept from the dwindling youth, the ones who have the ability to change Japan's situation. I think the fall of Japanese game devs is just a larger symptom. Japan has lost a lot of its fire. Samsung is the new Sony. Hyundai/Kia are the new Honda and Nissan. And Taito and Hudson are, effectively, gone, with more gone before and more to follow.

Let's keep our hopes up that Konami realized what it has and is willing to explore the commercial potential of it's much expanded library. Let's also hope that Konami pays attention to western gamers, lest it be snapped up by an even bigger fish.
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 03:38:11 PM »
Konami has survived because they were already huge, and they are fiercely protective of their IP... plus they manage to actually put out decent softs now and again.

As far as video games as a whole go though... Japan has pretty much already lost the war. The US and key European countries are dominating the industry nowadays, with SK in the lead in the MMO business. It's only a matter of time before Konami and even Square Enix fold if they don't take their heads out.

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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2011, 07:02:33 PM »
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2011, 07:24:50 PM »
And there goes teh train :(
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2011, 11:16:13 PM »
Oh great, now the prices are gonna be even higher on ebay :-s.
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 03:16:01 AM »
I'd also like to point out this line in the blog post:

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Konami has acquired the entirety of the Hudson group, and the offices in Japan will likely be focusing on social games.

That makes me wonder: is this the end of Hudson franchises completely? Bomberman, especially, since that was their big cash cow. But also Bonk, Adventure Island, and others? Or do you suppose Konami is going to start making those?

So many questions...
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Re: Hudson USA Shut Down!
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2011, 03:44:30 AM »
It's speculation at this point; we won't know for sure until they issue an official statement or we actually see what they do next. I would assume that Konami, being the opportunists they are, will take their newly acquired IP rights and continue the franchises to become even richer. :D