Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. Moving your party around in a JRPG is not "action", don't pretend you think it is. I'm trying to have an honest discussion here and you're acting like a politician, defending the indefensible while hiding behind a wall of false naivete and hoping I'll just give up and go away if you filibuster by parsing every sentence in my post.
I'm going away shortly for the weekend, so rest assured, you'll have a couple days to regain your composure. As for parsing every sentence... you just have so much material worth responding to. Take it as a compliment!
And for the record, I'm trying to have a discussion here as well. From my side, I see an individual who has made a decision about a console whose games he has not played and is parading his (uninformed) opinion up and down as cold, hard fact. As for going away-- on the contrary, discussion is good. Believe it or not I find myself in agreement with most of the stuff you say on these forums (outside of this discussion). The false naivete you reference is just my attempt to try to coax out of you why you think 99% of PC-FX games are point-and-click FMV snorefests. I'm not asking you to start liking the games, everyone has their own opinions. Opinions are good. Uninformed opinions based on misinformation and untruths (as in this case) is troubling, especially when aforementioned opinions are presented to folks who don't know better as "fact."
Just for your information, here is
my definition of a "real" game:
anything in which scenarios are presented to a player whereby input from the player affects the outcome of said scenarios. Preferably, some challenge ought to also be involved as opposed to a series of YES/NO questions, but I suppose it's not required.
Games: Yuna FX, Gate of Thunder, Langrisser/Warsong, Last Imperial Prince, Sapphire, Keith Courage in Alpha Zones.
Not Games: Valis Visual Collection, Local Girls of Hawaii, Anime Freak Vol. <whatever>, System Card <insert your favorite number here>.00, Cosmic Fantasy Visual Collection, Bikini Girls, etc.
I love RPGs and strategy games. I own both Yuna titles on PCE (cleared both several times) as well as the Saturn one (got stuck on that level where there is a beam that hits everyone in the party). Its great stuff. But a system that has nothing but this stuff...kind of...sucks?
In your opinion, of course. But now we're getting somewhere.... at least you're no longer declaring every title for the PC-FX is a FMV movie with random "OK" buttons to click throughout.
Its like this.
Most people who come to this forum that would ponder the purchase of an FX are cautious/hesitant because they think there won't be anything fun for them to play except for the over-rated/priced Zeoriger, Zenki and Chip Chan Kick...and you'd be a liar to say otherwise. If you tell a guy "buy it, its great, you'll love it" they are just going to be disappointed because almost no American can enjoy this machine. You have to say something like, "If you read Japanese pretty well, have terrible hand-eye coordination and pedophile tendencies, you'll love it!", you'd be much more honest. The sort of guy that buys huge limited editions of import mahjong games and never actually plays them. That guy? He's PC-FX all the way. Everyone else need not apply.
This is surely a step back, as I love the PC-FX and I don't read Japanese particularly well, I have fantastic hand-eye coordination, no pedophile tendencies, and own not a single mahjong game. It's another misinformed generalization. Necromancer already addressed the first part of this paragraph and I have to leave, so I'll move on.
Question: WTF can you pplaaaaaaaayyy on the FX? Stuff I can wear my controller out on?
Answer: (Apparently) five games.
You can
play around 60 games on the PC-FX. Wear your controller out on? Yeah, maybe five. You don't have to be putting a controller through the regulation 500 jerks just to be "playing" a game. I don't care
what console we're talking about.
I'm not hung up on FMV. I have no problem with FMV whatsoever, in fact I like it. I bought both Dragon's Lair's and Space Ace for DSi recently. I was serious about Densha de Go! and Initial D being good games that would have been natural for the FX, and I was always disappointed that cinema heavy games like Tengai, Cosmic Fantasy, Ys, etc didn't seem to make the transition to 32-bit (seriously, why to games like Suikoden not have cut scenes?)
That's nice and all, but your initial arguments seemed to stem primarily from the "THEY'RE ALL FMV!" stigma. Now we've moved on to "THEY'RE ALL MENU-DRIVEN!" which, at least, is a bit more accurate.
But an FMV fighter is not actually a fighter, therefore the FX has no fighters. It also has no racing games, no soccer games, no pinball games, nothing like Assault Suit Leynos, nothing like NiGHTS, nothing like Crash Bandicoot, or Ridge Racer, or Tekken, or anything non-menu driven except something like five games. Five games out of, what is it, 62? So %93 of the library is non-action? That's f*cking terrible.
I guess.... If your main focus is action. But who owns ONLY a PC-FX? And who in their right mind would recommend a PC-FX to someone as an ONLY system? Not me.
BTW, I say all this knowing that someday I will own a PCFX. This is because I love NEC, the look of the system, and I actually play raw JRPGs and collect useless shit like Saturn modems and Shooting Watches though, not because its actually good.
When that day comes perhaps you'll actually find yourself enjoying a lot of the stuff the PC-FX has to offer. Quite frankly, a lot of the stuff seems right up your alley from what I know from the past half-a-decade on here and your "White Line" website. I'd be a lot more accepting of an informed negative opinion, than an uninformed one.
Where were you when I was selling these things with re-calibrated lasers at $40 a piece? You'll never find a better price than that. I guarantee it.
This has been fun, comrades, but let's call it a day. It's better to spend your energy arguing over the virtues of JJ & Jeff, or Gomola Speed (the Duomazov review was dismissive, but Duomazov can suck my left one).
Right after you blow me.
