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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2011, 08:27:26 AM »
What's keeping all those people from having to liquidate the games out of credit card debt anyway? In these times surely money will dry up somehow.

I'm pretty sure they are doing just that, over and over again. The shit just moves from one guy to the next.

This brings up an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be fun to purposefully f*ck up a game's eBay value. It would be easy to drive the price up, but driving it down would take some cleverness, and some money, of course.

Possible method: Everyone here puts their personal copies of some game like Deep Blue on eBay with $250 BINs and just leave them there forever. If we could get 100 of them on there...that would be f*cking hilarious, and certainly drive up the price. Then we could all dump them at $1 a year later, one after another in a short span of time, and kill the fake price.

Candidate game: it has to be something less common than TV Sports of Keith Courage, but still common, and something not commonly thought to be valuable. Deep Blue maybe, or Yo Bro.

I thought about doing something like this while typing my last post. But the thought of it backfiring was too scary. I thought up of something I can do alone to put a dent in some of the gouging. I will cost me some money, but I think I'm going to do it. In order for it to be effective, I can't say what it is until after it is successful.

I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):

(1) Most folks use eBay to sell crap. Yet...

(2) eBay, as a historical record, becomes a source of: information, misinformation and disinformation.

(3) We, as dissidents, can try to use eBay as the battle ground for an information war. Our weapons, truth and reason, aimed at all the price gouging, misinformation and disinformation.

(4) We would have to be very active and creative in this information war. I don't pretend to have any answers, and I don't know what we would do if eBay blocked/closed our accounts.

(5) Random ideas I've had (all violate eBay's TOS, I'm sure, and are thwarted with other flaws as well. Read for entertainment value!):

     (a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.

     (b) Create a "SNOPES.COM" of ebay price gouging. That is, (1) we create and host an accessible, easy-to-digest primer on price gouging. VERY GENERAL GUIDE. Then, perhaps as a wiki, we have (2) TITLE-SPECIFIC entries with detailed information to counter the ridiculous claims sellers spew out. Most of this valuable information exists already, petrifying in specialized forums, but it needs to be consolidated.

     (c) GUERILLA WARFARE. This one is least feasible, could be considered malicious, but is most awesome. We go (systematically, as a large group of bidders) to all price gouging auctions and bid them up to ridiculous ($100,000+) amounts, and not pay. I suppose this is really just a daydream. MINOR PROBLEM: There is no way to create an endless supply of new eBay accounts to replace all our accounts that would be banned.

     (d) GIVE UP & BUY FROM FORUM "FRIENDS". This is my current M.O. 
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2011, 09:08:51 AM »
I think it would be far more effective if we actually place cheap BINs of the actual games that are getting gouged like Magical Chase, Bonk 3, DEII, etc. Like the above idea we would need a bunch of each. Just sayin'...

Around the time that crooked sellers first began to manipulate the market, they started by buying every BIN listing for games like those. They snag most before everyone else, because they're always watching while the rest of us are at our day jobs. Even if they don't make a huge profit on the games they buy from others like that, it's worth it to them in the long run to protect prices from falling, while at the same time steadily moving prices upward.

The only way to make what you are suggesting work, would be to manipulate the market in reverse, by fake selling games to one another. I don't know if private auctions are visible in search results, but as long as you've got someone lined up to buy your auction shortly after listing it, you might be able to pull it off. It would require a large group of people, so that it isn't obviously the same user IDs buying and selling everything. All you'd need to pull it off is enough people with eBay accounts that have decent ratings. Various members could take original photos for each listing from the games that they actually own. That way 30 different people could "sell" Magical Chase even if only one of them owns it.
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2011, 12:27:46 PM »
I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):
     (a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.

I can't remember which site it was but someone did something similar last year when NES Stadium Events was all the rage.

At that time tons of people were listing the PAL version as OMG RAER!!1! and trying to pass if off as the ultra-rare US version. The auction basically outlined how to spot the differences between the two versions, including the NES quality seal (oval on the US version I think, and round on the PAL version).

Anyway, their method was to put it as a BIN for $1, quantity 100, and the auction basically said "If this listing helped you out, please send us a buck".

Pretty clever actually.

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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2011, 01:41:24 AM »
My hucard only yo bro is ready to hit eBay with a cheap $200 bin! This will b fun to watch if nothing else
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2011, 05:53:03 PM »
I don't want to ruin your plan, but here is what I considered a long time ago (when I used eBay):
     (a) CO-OPT eBay for educational purposes. We create bogus auctions, simply to provide information on price gouging. We basically CLONE the offending auction, but we offer INFORMATION and ADVICE in our listing. We are providing targeted PSA's (public service announcements) to all the buyers interested in a particular title. METHOD: VERY LOW starting bid, to attract attention/but $800,000+ reserve price so we can cancel listing without complications.

I can't remember which site it was but someone did something similar last year when NES Stadium Events was all the rage.

At that time tons of people were listing the PAL version as OMG RAER!!1! and trying to pass if off as the ultra-rare US version. The auction basically outlined how to spot the differences between the two versions, including the NES quality seal (oval on the US version I think, and round on the PAL version).

Anyway, their method was to put it as a BIN for $1, quantity 100, and the auction basically said "If this listing helped you out, please send us a buck".

Pretty clever actually.


Very kool. I'm glad to hear that this tactic worked--it gives us hope!  :)

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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2011, 07:05:08 AM »
     (c) GUERILLA WARFARE. This one is least feasible, could be considered malicious, but is most awesome. We go (systematically, as a large group of bidders) to all price gouging auctions and bid them up to ridiculous ($100,000+) amounts, and not pay. I suppose this is really just a daydream. MINOR PROBLEM: There is no way to create an endless supply of new eBay accounts to replace all our accounts that would be banned.

     (d) GIVE UP & BUY FROM FORUM "FRIENDS". This is my current M.O. 

You're making a lot of sense. One guy stopped the sale of over 1,000 acres of Utah's National Parks to private interests by doing this. He is risking repercussions, though.

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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2012, 06:47:33 AM »
Can you guarantee that if I put a complete "ultra uber rare" copy of Yo Bro, at $200, BIN $250 on the internet auction site, will not get my name into the "gouging much" thread???
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2012, 07:30:22 AM »
no!
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2012, 02:14:47 PM »
craigslist took down the ad.. how much was it at?

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2012, 02:37:01 PM »
I read on the 1st page he was asking 10k. But I. Can't besure, Just repeating what was said.
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2012, 09:22:36 AM »
Why in the world is this game so expensive? I can understand why Sapphire is, but Magical Chase? Is it because its one of those mail order only games here in the U.S?


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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2012, 01:29:50 PM »
I've heard people say it was mail order only, but in 93 I sure as shit saw it at Babages.    I passed on it cause it was still $50 and instead bought Dead Moon, Neutopia 2, and Valis III all for $40.  If I only knew then...I'd still probably buy those 3 games instead.

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2012, 01:50:17 PM »
MC being mail order only?  Never heard anyone claim that one before LOL
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2012, 07:01:18 AM »
$10,000 where do I send my personal check or money order?
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Re: Magical Chase for sale in local Craigslist...
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2012, 07:16:00 AM »
/\/\/\ Hell if your looking for Magical Chase ill sell you my copy for $10Gs lol.
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