Author Topic: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???  (Read 9162 times)

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #195 on: March 27, 2011, 02:59:47 PM »
But nothing beats Streets of Rage 3.....

Sure, streets of rage 1 & 2 for example.

But....how can you go wrong with the dash and roll moves in SoR 3.
I love how they sped up the gameplay. No more walking and punching, run in there and beat the snot out of them.
This is the main reason why i prefer the 3rd one. Also, the music does NOT suck. The gritty techno goes well with the locations in this game.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #196 on: March 27, 2011, 03:02:23 PM »
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(3) On the increasing importance of music. I have less free time as I age, so video game music has become increasingly important as a way for me to stay connected and involved in the hobby I cherish. Of course, I always was a slut for video game music, but now the ratio of listening:playing is heavily weighted to the "listening" side because I can listen to music whilst commuting, driving, biking, cleaning cat litter, etc. etc.



Obey da legendary Sega genesis soundchip. Obey da music in Mega Turrican, Musha, Sonic, Gunstar heroes, Castlevania bloodlines and Vectorman. It is da only right thing to do.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #197 on: March 27, 2011, 03:43:01 PM »
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(3) On the increasing importance of music. I have less free time as I age, so video game music has become increasingly important as a way for me to stay connected and involved in the hobby I cherish. Of course, I always was a slut for video game music, but now the ratio of listening:playing is heavily weighted to the "listening" side because I can listen to music whilst commuting, driving, biking, cleaning cat litter, etc. etc.



Obey da legendary Sega genesis soundchip....

hehe, thats a good one. Even used da funny words to prove da point dat it was da joke.... or were you serious?
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #198 on: March 27, 2011, 05:58:43 PM »
I hear what you're saying, but I think it also has a lot to do with the monitor in question. It contrasts very well on my LCD monitor, in fact it's almost clearer and easier to read for me to read than the yellow. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, as I said, this is the first I've heard of it. If the general consensus is that it's unreadable, I'll consider changing it.

I also wonder if your browser isn't rendering the font correctly; the font isn't supposed to be a thin-line font.

It's a sans serif font, meaning it's clean, but also that it's a little thin. I don't think Mozilla 4 has any notable problems with font rendering at this time. I think the problem is the color, frankly. My monitor is fine, really, but I'm pickier about color contrast than some. You take enough usability classes and you start to notice things other people don't think are all that important (but secretly can be).

Also, Nintendo learned that red is not a good color to stare at on LCD screens when they released the Virtual Boy.

I love the content of the site and I respect you a lot on these forums, but the color scheme of your site just really isn't attractive or easy on the eyes. The yellow text is the only text that I'm comfortable reading and don't tire of looking at, and even then it's not particularly attractive.

Still, I'm trying to read. There's some good stuff there.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #199 on: March 27, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »
Black text on a yellow background is scientifically the easiest thing to read.

Thats why school busses and hazard signs are made like this.



Actually, it's the most eye-catching colour combination, possibly to do with natural threats like bees, wasps and some snakes, though I suppode that could translate to easier reading.  I personally think white on black, and (hard copy) black on white are nice to read.

I also quite like gentle tweaks, such as dark grey fonts which aren't arial.

I somewhat agree. Yes, black on yellow is to get attention, not for long, relaxed reads. I think my favorite color combination for readability is strong yellow text on a medium dark blue background. It's not much to look at, and is probably a bad idea for web design, but I find it easy to read. I also like the color scheme for this forum site a lot, actually. Medium greys and blues, and dark text on an off-white background. Very easy to take in and read comfortably.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #200 on: March 28, 2011, 05:04:34 AM »
I hear what you're saying, but I think it also has a lot to do with the monitor in question. It contrasts very well on my LCD monitor, in fact it's almost clearer and easier to read for me to read than the yellow. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, as I said, this is the first I've heard of it. If the general consensus is that it's unreadable, I'll consider changing it.

I can read it just fine, without having to enable my zoom function or other optical effects, like split screen, slow motion, QuantelTM.

For those that are having a hard time reading such text, try selecting it which makes it into blue text on a white background.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #201 on: March 28, 2011, 05:58:53 AM »
I hear what you're saying, but I think it also has a lot to do with the monitor in question. It contrasts very well on my LCD monitor, in fact it's almost clearer and easier to read for me to read than the yellow. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, as I said, this is the first I've heard of it. If the general consensus is that it's unreadable, I'll consider changing it.

I can read it just fine, without having to enable my zoom function or other optical effects, like split screen, slow motion, QuantelTM.

For those that are having a hard time reading such text, try selecting it which makes it into blue text on a white background.

Sure, as a stopgap solution that's passable, with with better design everyone would win, not just some. Hey, at least we've all concluded the content is worth reading!

And to get back on the forum topic, I confess that Bonk 2 was a real draw for me on the Turbo. Even though all Bonk's actions have just a little delay to them, I really liked the game, better than the others in the series. It's just... I dunno, fun. Between the bonus levels and all the little powerups hidden around the huge levels... The game amused me more than the other two.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #202 on: March 28, 2011, 08:43:40 AM »
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(3) On the increasing importance of music. I have less free time as I age, so video game music has become increasingly important as a way for me to stay connected and involved in the hobby I cherish. Of course, I always was a slut for video game music, but now the ratio of listening:playing is heavily weighted to the "listening" side because I can listen to music whilst commuting, driving, biking, cleaning cat litter, etc. etc.



Obey da legendary Sega genesis soundchip....

hehe, thats a good one. Even used da funny words to prove da point dat it was da joke.... or were you serious?

The Genesis sound chip is pretty awesome.  There are many great tunes for it.  I won't argue with anyone who thinks the PCE sounds better (and it does sound awesome).  But let's put it this way:  Just because the PCE sounds awesome doesn't mean that the Genesis sounds bad.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #203 on: March 28, 2011, 08:54:01 AM »
Yep, lightening force/Thunder force 4 for the win.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #204 on: March 28, 2011, 09:57:07 AM »
The Genesis sound chip is pretty awesome.  There are many great tunes for it.  I won't argue with anyone who thinks the PCE sounds better (and it does sound awesome).  But let's put it this way:  Just because the PCE sounds awesome doesn't mean that the Genesis sounds bad.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #205 on: March 28, 2011, 10:53:08 AM »
Very, very true.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #206 on: March 28, 2011, 10:59:15 AM »
I just couldn't believe what Sunsoft did with the Genesis sound chip. Truly amazing!
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #207 on: March 28, 2011, 11:53:05 AM »
I just couldn't believe what Sunsoft did with the Genesis sound chip. Truly amazing!

They've done just as much good with the Turbo's soundchip.

Check out Batman for the most easily accessible example of this. Benkei Gaiden is another great one if you play JRPGs.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #208 on: March 28, 2011, 12:03:43 PM »
I just couldn't believe what Sunsoft did with the Genesis sound chip. Truly amazing!

They've done just as much good with the Turbo's soundchip.

Check out Batman for the most easily accessible example of this. Benkei Gaiden is another great one if you play JRPGs.

Batman for the MD is the first game that enters my mind when I think of Sunsoft music. I'll check out the PCE version too. :wink:
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #209 on: March 28, 2011, 12:11:29 PM »
The Genesis sound chip is pretty awesome.  There are many great tunes for it.  I won't argue with anyone who thinks the PCE sounds better (and it does sound awesome).  But let's put it this way:  Just because the PCE sounds awesome doesn't mean that the Genesis sounds bad.

That's how I look at consoles and games in general. Nothing has to be good at the expense of something else.

The Genesis' sound is not only awesome in general, but very unique, even for FM sound. It has the perfect combination of FM, PSG and samples, but more importantly there are so many games with great music.
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