Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???

[Arkhan]

When you want to hear this  

and you get this:


You start to understand how shit like this:

happened

[SaturdayMorningRobots]

The Amiga was better for 3d games, Star Glider (Think Star Fox where you could fly between planets and even melt your ship if you flew too close to the sun.) and F-18 hornet were both pretty great for their time.

Mostly I used my A2000 for 2d animation (Deluxe paint 4 and Disney animation studio) And stuck to my Duo and SNES for gaming.

[Arkhan]

There arent alot of 3D amiga games that are really worth the time, esp. considering setting one up is a pain in the ass.

[SignOfZeta]

The Amiga was better for 3d games...

...what?

[Mathius]

The Amiga was better for 3d games...

...what?

Maybe he is thinking the Amiga CD32?

[nat]

When you want to hear this

 

I don't know that I've ever actually heard this, but GODDAMN what an awful racket that is. Any semblance of melody is lost in the abrasive FM cacophony. If this is what people considered "good" video game music, it's no wonder the Turbo ended up becoming my console of choice.

Thank god for the SuperGrafx and SNES renditions.

and you get this:

This one is even worse, however. This isn't actually a song or even what I might consider "music," it's just ambient noise.

[Arkhan]

I don't know that I've ever actually heard this, but GODDAMN what an awful racket that is. Any semblance of melody is lost in the abrasive FM cacophony. If this is what people considered "good" video game music, it's no wonder the Turbo ended up becoming my console of choice.

agreed, that version is a little tinny.  The actual arcade isn't that bad so I think maybe it was a bad output.

The SGFX version is undoubtedly the best rendition of the classic "oh shit, zombies and satan just stole my hoe" tune.

but, I couldnt find it and I am lazy.

as for the ambient noise:


ITS BY THE LEGENDLY TIM FOLIN.  YOU MUST LOVE IT OR DIE.

or whatever.

[Joe Redifer]

I don't know why you quoted Ghosts & Goblins arcade when you should have quoted Ghouls 'n Ghosts arcade.  Nat, Ghouls sounds millions of times better than Ghosts in the arcade, but I agree, Ghosts sounds like crusty anus.  The Genesis version of Ghouls sounds great as well (and in my opinion substantially better than the Supergrafx version).

I do agree, though, that just about every creative effort from Europe back in those days was trash.  They've gotten much better over the years.  Brits made Burnout Paradise and that game rocks my socks!

[Arkhan]

OH, I did ghosts and goblins?  f*ck man I wasn't awake, they all look the same when you've just crawled out of bed to come flail around on the internets.

woops


There we go.

mmmmm.

There weren't alot of euro games that I recall being great fun on these old systems.   I notice though that the trend seems to be, if the game is some original idea, its pretty good.

If its an a port of a Japanese game (R Type), or an attempted-in-the-style-of (Menace), you end up with

WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING


The original ideas, like Parallax... yeah those turned out nice.

[SaturdayMorningRobots]

The Amiga was better for 3d games...

...what?

Maybe he is thinking the Amiga CD32?

Nope plain old floppy games on an Amiga 2000. Those were the only 2 3d games I had though. The others were all crap like Police quest

[Arkhan]

The Amiga had some cool 3D games like Stuntcar Racer, Robocop, and some others.  Amiga *did* do neat 3D stuff.

if our friends in .JP would have gotten into Amiga dev bitd, I bet we'd have some insanely f*cking awesome games on the Amiga.

Instead we got games that are better on Sega because THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BUTTON.

[sunteam_paul]

The Amiga had some cool 3D games like Stuntcar Racer, Robocop, and some others.  Amiga *did* do neat 3D stuff.

if our friends in .JP would have gotten into Amiga dev bitd, I bet we'd have some insanely f*cking awesome games on the Amiga.

Instead we got games that are better on Sega because THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BUTTON.

If you plugged in a Mega Drive / Master System pad to an Amiga, some games used the second button. (Few, but some)

[Tatsujin]

The Amiga had some cool 3D games like Stuntcar Racer, Robocop, and some others.  Amiga *did* do neat 3D stuff.

if our friends in .JP would have gotten into Amiga dev bitd, I bet we'd have some insanely f*cking awesome games on the Amiga.

Instead we got games that are better on Sega because THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BUTTON.

If you plugged in a Mega Drive / Master System pad to an Amiga, some games used the second button. (Few, but some)

Turrican II and PC Kid FTW.

[esteban]

Wow. All I can say (to the haters):

[reading]

If you can find a tiny nook (or cranny) in your heart to appreciate music that strays from your "standards" (including your hated platforms/composers), you just might be surprised with what you enjoy!

Personally, I am glad that, occasionally, folks do more than simply acting as a photocopier and cloning. A long time ago I wrote about the problem of "monoculture" in the video game world (when a game is released for several platforms and nearly identical for each). I  know, I know: this is a hallmark of our modern gaming era. I understand why corporations want their games to offer a "standardized product" and provide a "uniform experience" to the customers, but I can't help but wonder if we (video game players) have lost something in return for this "standardized product".

I love the variation and experimentation that occurred back in the day. I know, I'm the crazy one

[/reading]

This philosophy applies to music as well as games. Variety is the spice of life, as they say. Especially now, from our vantage point as lovers of video game stuff.

[Arkhan]

Turrican II and PC Kid FTW.

Sucks and Better on the PCE ftw.


the fact that the amiga didn't take that quantum leap to multi-buttons as standard really says alot about how those retards view the concept of gaming.