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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #90 on: March 23, 2011, 12:02:27 PM »
what's wrong with Super Star Soldier?

I believe it deserves a 8.5/10

agreed, maybe even higher, somewhere around 8.5/10 to 9/10

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #91 on: March 23, 2011, 12:05:43 PM »
I actually find SSS to be better than Soldier blade in terms of playability. 
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2011, 12:10:55 PM »
I believe it deserves a 8.5/10. It's a addicting shooter, But too easy to finish.  

Just seen the edited post, "too easy to finish", not sure about this?
Some of the criticism of the game has been its hard difficulty in later levels.
I'm not saying I agree that it's overly difficult, in fact I think the difficulty curve is perfect.

That's my only big criticism for Final Soldier it's just far too easy.  

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2011, 12:17:38 PM »
Well, I am not sure about other people's experience.

But i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #94 on: March 23, 2011, 12:18:53 PM »
In my opinion, SSS is boring, uninspired, ugly, derivative and.... boring. It's not the worst shooter on the system (or even close), but it's totally eclipsed by Blazing Lazers and the rest of the Soldier series.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2011, 12:32:53 PM »
But i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.

it's definitely the hardest to beat out of the four PCE Soldier games, and it's harder than GunHed.
did you beat those other games too in around the same time?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2011, 12:34:36 PM by HardcoreOtaku »

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2011, 12:37:26 PM »
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2011, 01:01:29 PM »
In my opinion, SSS is boring, uninspired, ugly, derivative and.... boring. It's not the worst shooter on the system (or even close), but it's totally eclipsed by Blazing Lazers and the rest of the Soldier series.

 Heh, I feel the complete opposite. BL was awesome, no doubt. But it wasn't perfect. I like BL's graphics (it has that original TG16 release look), but SSS definitely had more correct /updated graphics for the time. More use of shades, more moving parts on the bosses, etc. The music was nice too, though overall BL has the better sound track. But I never thought SSS's sound track sucked. I rather liked it. I just wish it had a little more bass (ok, a lot!) to it and it's samples/explosions. I also liked all the different range/looks/styles of the levels and new weapons of SSS. For me, SSS was harder than BL. Well, it took me longer to beat it then BL. Soldier Blade being the hardest of the three. I'll never understand the low opinion some people have of SSS. If you liked BL better, SSS was still a great game when it was released.

 I would have loved a SCD release of SSS with a red book audio sound track. That would have been awesome.

 Also, EGM was waaaay pro Sega (16bit). Often belittled the TG16 IMO. But I still read every issue. I usually ignored the reviews and just looked over the game spreads (or whatever you call them). I clearly remember the issue that showed off Cosmic Fantasy 2 cinema shots. I couldn't believe it! No 'jaggies/edgies' like Last Alert or Valis II. Very highly anticipated TGCD game for me BITD. I think Ys III got some low scores ranging of 5-6 range. But that game was fantastic fun from start to finish. f*ck EGM reviewers.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2011, 01:22:50 PM »
For me very clear:

SB > SSS >>> FS

And Gunhed is no part of the soldier serie, nor is it intended to be one.

But we had this discussion in so many other threads already. there is even a deticated thread with a poll for the soldier serie.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2011, 02:15:04 PM »
Ok, whatever crack someone must have slipped into my food at some point today... has apparently worn off. (Thank god)

 I retract my statement of SSS. Having just replayed through the entire game after making that post - SSS is 6.5 or 7 easily. BL is a 9 or 9.5.

 SSS has some great parts, but they are very little. I guess my memory got the best of me on that one, because that's all I seemed to have allowed myself to remember of the game. There are lots of boring parts in between. I like most of the bosses and mini boss of SSS. I like some of the art work, of what little there is really (cause it's damn repetitive). It would have been a lot better if they just made all the stages half as long (at minimum, maybe some even shorter). Gotta go with Nat on this one.  :oops:

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2011, 02:25:07 PM »
The best part of SSS is the one song in it, for stage 3.

the rest of the game is mediocre at best.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2011, 02:52:38 PM »
I just picked up SSS and FS yesterday because my other copies are in the US.
I like the whole series, but never appreciated Gunhed as much as most people here do.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2011, 03:51:18 PM »
Ok, whatever crack someone must have slipped into my food at some point today... has apparently worn off. (Thank god)

 I retract my statement of SSS. Having just replayed through the entire game after making that post - SSS is 6.5 or 7 easily. BL is a 9 or 9.5.

 SSS has some great parts, but they are very little. I guess my memory got the best of me on that one, because that's all I seemed to have allowed myself to remember of the game. There are lots of boring parts in between. I like most of the bosses and mini boss of SSS. I like some of the art work, of what little there is really (cause it's damn repetitive). It would have been a lot better if they just made all the stages half as long (at minimum, maybe some even shorter). Gotta go with Nat on this one.  :oops:

The game has not aged well. Back in the day, I thought it was pretty cool. Nowadays, the other games in the series just blow it out of the water. You mentioned length, and indeed that is a major problem. The game just drones on and on, there are points where it seems like it'll never end. Most of the decent parts are towards the end of the game. The only standout part for me early in the adventure is the Scorpion boss who's kind of a chump, but at least he's cool in concept.

Some could argue Blazing Lazers suffers from the same affliction, but the killer soundtrack coupled with Compile's knack for keeping things interesting even during long stretches allows it to stay enjoyable. Not to mention the levels are a lot more interesting to begin with. Somehow they completely failed in this regard with Space Megaforce.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2011, 03:57:32 PM »
btw, for those who might be interested, here's the old SSS thread:

http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6820.0
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2011, 05:58:53 PM »
But i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.

it's definitely the hardest to beat out of the four PCE Soldier games, and it's harder than GunHed.
did you beat those other games too in around the same time?

I have beaten Soldier Blade, but not final soldier and gunhead.

Soldier blade was slightly harder than SSS In my opinion.
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