Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???

[nodtveidt]

Hehehe Ark, you know I'm just messin with ya

However, Shape Shifter does still suck.

[lord_cack]

Well, I just found this thread. Interesting (this topic comes up once every year and a half or so).

OK, why PCE.... it had exclusivity. That was a big part for me. Ys Book I & II, was nowhere else. Beyond Shadowgate, Cosmic Fantasy 2, Gate of Thunder, Lord of Thunder, Dungeon Explorer II.... these games excisted on no other system and i wouldn't want to imagine my teen years without those titles.

Sure, yeah, SNES had some titles I also wouldn't want to forget: ActRaiser I, Secret of Mana, Shadowrun, Super Metroid, Final Fantasy 3, and Super Mario World. But, everyone had those games or rented them back in the day. No one was playing my Turbo games.

The Genesis, it never struck a chord with me. Sonic was OK but really, you could just press Right and Jump and get through most of those games without even paying attention. I really think it never did anything original worthy of merit. All of its A-List titles were either games you could get on the SNES (and probably done better on the SNES) OR was a game trying to BE a game on the SNES (Zelda Rip-Off, Contra Rip-Off etc.)

The Music everyone has mentioned as well stuck with me from my Turbo games. The Genesis tunes all sounded to me like they came through a rope tied between two coffe cans and the SNES while amazing sonically, all its tunes had a similiar sound to them. Shooters sounded similar, RPG's sounded similar, and on and on. Nothing unique really. That may seem general but I think it holds true.

In my opinion the PCE was the last system that had the unique library going for it. Because cross platform has been the way of things for a long time. You get the exclusive title that draws you in (Now a days its God of War PS3, Halo/ Gears of War Xbox 360 etc.) but other than that, its all cross platform. I don't count the Wii really cause the exclusive titles for those systems are Nintedo's Alist games that have been around for years.

[soop]

As for Turrican... well, Arkhan hates it because it's not a brainless run-and-gun like Contra. Also, it wipes the walls with him. I like Turrican because it's a thinking man's gunner and relies heavily on accuracy of firing and memorization, not blind bullet-festing that any scrub can do.

I completed both on the C64, and the Amiga ones, and the SNES one.  The game just sucks.  It's got nothing to do with the thinking aspect.  The thinking aspect is boring.  Theres not much strategy to "shoot randomly into the air to see if you get a platform to appear with STUFFS IN IT!".  Then: ROLL AROUND AND BREAK THE LITTLE TARDPODS.  OH HERE COMES SOME BATS.  BETTER SHOOT THEM AND THEN CONTINUE ON YOUR MERRY WAY. ENJOY THE MUSIC AS YOU MEANDER THROUGH BOREDOM.

DONT BOTHER TRYING TO AIM UP.  ROBOTMEN CANT AIM UP. NEVERMIND THAT YOU CAN AIM 8 WAYS IN CONTRA. THATS STUPID. WERE EUROPEAN SO WE f*ck EVERYTHING UP.  DID YOU TRY MENACE? ITS LIKE RTYPE ONLY WE f*ckED IT UP CAUSE WERE EUROPE.

Robotmans shouldnt have to use strategy.  They should just f*ck everything up.  If I want strategy, I will play a real strategy game.   The game has all of the elements of a sweet action game, with none of the action.

It'd help if the enemies werent retarded little doodlepods and stupid crap.  You're basically fighting pop cans, foreman grills, and things that resemble little kid toys.
There are more sinister looking monsters in super mario world ffs.


Heres some irony for you.  Turrican blows. So does RType on the C64 (no sfx, wtf!).  The same man is responsible for both.


GO FIGURE.

Turrican is one of my all-time favorite games.  I like that it's not trying to be Contra.
Plus points are huge levels (like you can go up and down as far as you can across in most levels, but most people will just run straight through), massive sprites, a unique weapon system, awesome graphics and awesome music.

I think it's fair play if you don't like it, I can see why many people wouldn't.  But I don't think calling it rubbish because it's not like a superficially similar game is really fair.

[ddd1234]

I completed both on the C64, and the Amiga ones, and the SNES one.  The game just sucks. 

I am not buying that at all. The fact that you said the game stinks, and yet you managed to stick around and complete several versions of it?
If a game sucks, I don't bother playing it. I know something glued you to these games.

[esteban]

I completed both on the C64, and the Amiga ones, and the SNES one.  The game just sucks. 

I am not buying that at all. The fact that you said the game stinks, and yet you managed to stick around and complete several versions of it?
If a game sucks, I don't bother playing it. I know something glued you to these games.

Indeed, Arkhan doesn't strike me as a masochist who would willingly subject himself to a game he so thoroughly despises.

I, however, have not given up on Turrican TG-16 completely, even though I find it less than captivating.

[esteban]

Buster Bros. is the only game here I can't comment on, as I haven't played it beyond the five seconds I used to test out my copy when I bought it.

Have Aaron over sometime for beers, brats, and Buster Bros.  You won't be disappointed.

Nat, you certainly won't be disappointed by Buster Bros. It is a very nice port with pleasing Red Book and 2-player co-op! I think it holds up remarkably well.

[TheOldMan]

Indeed, Arkhan doesn't strike me as a masochist who would willingly subject himself to a game he so thoroughly despises.

You don't know him very well, then. He would do it just so he could bitch about how bad it was....

[Necromancer]

You don't know him very well, then. He would do it just so he could bitch about how bad it was....

And to see if it has any contents for googling.

[Arkhan]

The music in the turricans was good... but the gameplay never got very interesting.  I'd rather play Blaster Master and Metroid games if I want big expansive levels and whatnot.


The whole game feels like some crap youd find on one of those LOLSHAREWARE cd's for your brand new Pentium computer.

I finished them on C64 first and thought maybe they blew because its a C64 game so I gave the Amiga ones a shot.  Its not like they take long to beat.  Everyone in C= land raved about the games so I was on a quest to see wtf was so great about it.


The music, thats it.

Listen to the soundtrack, dont play the game.

[soop]

The music in the turricans was good... but the gameplay never got very interesting.  I'd rather play Blaster Master and Metroid games if I want big expansive levels and whatnot.


The whole game feels like some crap youd find on one of those LOLSHAREWARE cd's for your brand new Pentium computer.

I finished them on C64 first and thought maybe they blew because its a C64 game so I gave the Amiga ones a shot.  Its not like they take long to beat.  Everyone in C= land raved about the games so I was on a quest to see wtf was so great about it.


The music, thats it.

Listen to the soundtrack, dont play the game.

Love master blaster.  The game and the song.

[Arkhan]

Blaster Master 2 on Sega Genesis is what I play if I want a shooty game that requires exploration, and has huge ass levels.

That game was sooooooooooooo awesome.

[soop]

Blaster Master 2 on Sega Genesis is what I play if I want a shooty game that requires exploration, and has huge ass levels.

That game was sooooooooooooo awesome.

[ddd1234]

Blaster Master 2 on Sega Genesis is what I play if I want a shooty game that requires exploration, and has huge ass levels.

That game was sooooooooooooo awesome.

Do you like rendering rangers for Super famicom, tat game is awesome!

Now that one blows away all 16-bit games when it comes to best "16-bit" visuals.

[Bonknuts]

Blaster Master on the NES was awesome. BM2 on the Genesis was bullshit wanna be. Maybe it's a fine game by itself (I'll at least give it that), but otherwise I think it sucks much ass. I think it's just some licensed US or EU crap. No original crew/company involved in it. I refuse to play that game... ever.

[esteban]

Blaster Master 2 on Sega Genesis is what I play if I want a shooty game that requires exploration, and has huge ass levels.

That game was sooooooooooooo awesome.

Great stuff, for real

And right up Arkhan's Alley: