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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2011, 09:17:00 PM »
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2011, 11:52:34 PM »
Why is it that light gun games got worse after the NES?  The 16-bit systems light gun games sucked, and the TG-16 didn't even get one.  Virtua Cop/House of the Dead games excluded, I never touch a light gun game that's not for the NES.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2011, 04:15:15 AM »
Wildgunman is still the best of the best :)



and the one for the movie :)




I have Wild Gunman for Famicom, too :)

What we need is a remixed Wild Gunman that is not based on short "rounds" but longer "stages".

That would be fun.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2011, 08:37:53 AM »
Super Bonk 1 (Bonk 4) is really awful, though. I personally enjoy Bonk 3 (non-CD version) the best.

I believe that's going bit extreme, cuz i wouldn't really label super bonk was "really awful".
I mean, It's certainly very playable, and i stuck around until i finished it. So, I say it's above average. 
As for Super Genjin 2 or whatever, I like the new graphics style. Hell, I own both games for my super Nintendo.
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Bonk's Adventure-8/10
Bonk's Revenge-8.5/10
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2011, 10:25:33 AM »
Super Bonk 1 (Bonk 4) is really awful, though. I personally enjoy Bonk 3 (non-CD version) the best.

I believe that's going bit extreme, cuz i wouldn't really label super bonk was "really awful".
I mean, It's certainly very playable, and i stuck around until i finished it. So, I say it's above average. 
As for Super Genjin 2 or whatever, I like the new graphics style. Hell, I own both games for my super Nintendo.
My ratings:-

Bonk's Adventure-8/10
Bonk's Revenge-8.5/10
Bonk 3-7.5/10
Super Bonk-7/10
Super Genjin 2-9/10 

 

Revenge will always be my favorite. The continuity of the levels, the enemies seemed to fit each level, the music fit, the bosses seemed appropriate per level, it just all flowed together very well. It felt as if Bonk was in a "world" not just tossed around from level to level. I mean the one game (can't recall which one) has Bonk in a city.... nah. Bonk 3's level design was horrible. It felt like the left overs from Adventure and Revenge got slapped together and here is what you get.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2011, 10:34:54 AM »
Super Bonk 1 (Bonk 4) is really awful, though. I personally enjoy Bonk 3 (non-CD version) the best.


I believe that's going bit extreme, cuz i wouldn't really label super bonk was "really awful".


I would. Compared to the rest of them, anyway.

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I mean, It's certainly very playable, and i stuck around until i finished it. So, I say it's above average.  



Taken as a game outside of the Bonk series, it's "OK." It's far and away the worst of the five Bonk games, however. It seemed like with the 4th one they were trying to "one-up" Bonk 3, but the effort fell flat in every regard. Why is Bonk walking around modern-day cities? Better yet, why is the Chikkun army walking around modern cities? It makes no sense. You can't tell me that the prehistoric setting well had run dry; see the 5th game. Goofiness aside, the graphics are as bland as Bonk has every been. Colors are washed out, dull. Music tries to emulate the Bonk 3 style (probably the same composer), but while many tunes and melodies in 3 are memorable, the audio here is just completely forgettable and bland (yes, there's that word again). Like the other aspects of the game, it again seems like they were attempting to emulate Bonk 3 with the level design in part 4. Certain parts of certain levels almost seem like they were lifted directly from 3, and yet, the levels on the whole are much more boring and unintuitive. I've never bothered finishing the game. Not because it's hard, I just get bored and shut it off before that point.

Super Bonk 2 (the 5th game) is a much, much better effort overall and while I still don't like it as much as 3, it doesn't stand out of place next to the original TG-16 trilogy.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2011, 10:46:02 AM »
Bonk 1 is the best one as far as vibe goes.   Its cartoony, but no so cartoony that its cartoony.

If that made any sense at all.


The 2nd and 3rd games are a bit toooooo cooky.  Super Bonk 1 was like fullblown cooky.  I like bonk 1's setup the most
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2011, 12:03:42 PM »
Super Bonk 1 (Bonk 4) is really awful, though. I personally enjoy Bonk 3 (non-CD version) the best.

I believe that's going bit extreme, cuz i wouldn't really label super bonk was "really awful".

I can't say how good of a game it is overall, but as far as Bonk games go, it's broken, bland and fugly at times.

If only someone would port it to Turbo/PCE with improved color and gameplay... :pray:
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2011, 12:43:52 PM »
All Bonk games are pretty bad (I feel the same way about Sonic games), but I enjoy the first one the most.  I like playing through stage one and defeating the boss.  After that the power goes off.  Bonk 2 has better music and seems bigger and more colorful, but it's still Bonk.  Bonk 3 is just stupid.

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2011, 01:46:18 PM »
If only someone would port it to Turbo/PCE with improved color and gameplay... :pray:
This is something PD wants to do, but I'm not so sure... how do you really fix a fundamentally broken game like that?

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2011, 02:08:04 PM »
Or Someone please port Bonk 2 to the Snes with multi scrolls and higher quality music.  :roll:
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2011, 02:17:24 PM »
I would like to apologize for lying. I was having too much fun playing a dumb S**t on this forum.

I am actually a pretty big fan of the PCE.  :roll:

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2011, 06:08:27 PM »
OK, on Brothers Duomazov, the red text on the black background is not only ugly but a major pain (literally) to read, causing much eyestrain on me. From a usability perspective it's a rather poor choice.
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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »
Strange, it's very clear on my LCD monitor. This is the first I've heard of this... Anyone else have this issue?

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Re: Why the PCE? Why Not the Genesis or Snes???
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2011, 07:11:25 PM »
It's the color contrast, among other things. The red doesn't contrast distinctly enough against the black. The thin line font doesn't help that, much. The solution is to use a color that contrasts more against the black. Truth told, dark backgrounds with light text, though popular, are harder to do right than most people think. It's subject a lot more to individual variations in perception than dark text on light backgrounds, and thus tends to be more fiddly. I found the entire site's color scheme a little on the unattractive side, but the yellow text at least is comfortably readable against the black background. The red just ain't doin' it, though.
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