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« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2012, 11:10:34 AM »
But I've been talking about how common it's been since post-TTi to now, not how there were stacks and stacks in stores bitd.
Read my post again.  I'm not talking about the number of copies that were in stores (Games To Go was a second hand store c.1995-98).  I'm talking about why there are most likely fewer copies of MC in existence than any other Turbochip.  
What makes you think it is a third party release?
OK, it was a no-name Quest game released by TTI.  It's still the second-to-last Turbochip, it's not Bonk 3, and there's the bulldozed stock report.  Whether or not you believe it, these are the only things we have to go on aside from personal accounts of how many times each of us have happened to see individual games.  If anyone can present a plausible theory for why Darkwing Duck or Hero Tonma are rarer, I'm all ears.

I was always under the impression that Steve got his hands on everything. There was no bulldozing specifically because of him (TZD).
It seems unlikely that a startup company could afford all of TTI's unused stock.  See the link above.

BTW, is Steve's record store still around?  I thought that went under too.
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« Reply #121 on: January 27, 2012, 11:18:00 AM »
Seems plausible enough .. but it's still all circumstantial. I'll wait until I hear back from a traceable source (like Steve) before I decide what I think.

Yeah, you can still email Steve at ampie.com
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« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2012, 11:23:54 AM »
OH I was reading on the other thread about that Sapphire reprint. They were done buy some guy in Germany through a pressing company in China. Same guy who did that "official" release of Space Fantasy Zone. his website was something like. anime.sapphire.de

I talked to him once. Said he did about 100 of the SFZ. Not sure about the Sapphire. I think (to protect himself at the time), he claimed that they were "found" in a Chinese warehouse.

Kinda wish I'd gotten one of the SFZ, but I never would ahve opened it... couldn't bring myself to buy it just as a trophy. I think the lowest he'd go on them was about $125 shipped anyway. He finally sold out of them.
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« Reply #123 on: January 27, 2012, 11:25:17 AM »
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« Reply #124 on: January 27, 2012, 11:31:26 AM »
The bulldozer story is true. Waiting on permission to post my source so it's official and credible.
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« Reply #125 on: January 27, 2012, 11:32:52 AM »
Oh, the Magical Chase at Radio Shack ... did they have to special order it for you? Or was it there on the shelf? Radio Shack was one of TZD's longest running retailers. I could still walk into a Shack here in Roanoke as late as 2005 and they would be able to order Turbo games for me. Steve at one point did confirm for me, it was him they were ordering from.


Not sure why you're cling to this "not in stores" business...I know you're newer here, but any of the MC discussions have multiple posts of people (like myself as well) seeing MC in a variety of stores.  EBGames Southridge Mall, Milwaukee, WI.... MC on the shelf with 2-3 behind the counter back in the day.   Seen also at Toys R Us...this is far from a mail order/special order only game.
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Re: Magical Chase Waiting List
« Reply #126 on: January 27, 2012, 11:39:02 AM »
OH I was reading on the other thread about that Sapphire reprint. They were done buy some guy in Germany through a pressing company in China. Same guy who did that "official" release of Space Fantasy Zone. his website was something like. anime.sapphire.de

I talked to him once. Said he did about 100 of the SFZ. Not sure about the Sapphire. I think (to protect himself at the time), he claimed that they were "found" in a Chinese warehouse.

Kinda wish I'd gotten one of the SFZ, but I never would ahve opened it... couldn't bring myself to buy it just as a trophy. I think the lowest he'd go on them was about $125 shipped anyway. He finally sold out of them.

The Sapphires he made were very nice. However, anyone who pays more than $5 for the SFZs is a f*cking chump though. They are CDRs, for f*ck's sake...

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« Reply #127 on: January 27, 2012, 11:43:06 AM »
I kind of figured they were CDRs with pretty packaging. Never get one myself.

Pardon my newness, just wanting to be clear on issues.
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« Reply #128 on: January 27, 2012, 11:47:12 AM »
Oh, the Magical Chase at Radio Shack ... did they have to special order it for you? Or was it there on the shelf? Radio Shack was one of TZD's longest running retailers. I could still walk into a Shack here in Roanoke as late as 2005 and they would be able to order Turbo games for me. Steve at one point did confirm for me, it was him they were ordering from.

lol, they wouldn't special order a game for $5. :P It was in a clearance bin along with Cotton and a Duo Tap and a Duo Pad or two that I bought for the same price. Before that visit to the store, I had been mail ordering Duo games like DEII, Madden and Lords from them for $20 each for about a year. Radio Shack in Canada was not affiliated with the American company. They licensed the name and carried a lot of the same things though.

They definitely never dealt with TZD, since they refused to sell to Canadians. When they eventually gave us the privelage of dealing with them, they wanted something ridiculous like $30 shipping per game. Whatever it was, it made the games much more (double?) expensive than anywhere else online. I don't remember if I actually went through with a transaction with TZD in the last year or so, but I at least contacted them to find that they were finally charging reasonable prices to sell to Canadians.

Radio Shack in both Canada and the U.S. was definitely one of the longest running NEC and TTi retailers. I doubt that Radio Shacks in the U.S. kept selling Turbo games for TZD through the 32-bit generation. They definitely stopped in Canada when TTi went under.


Read my post again.  I'm not talking about the number of copies that were in stores (Games To Go was a second hand store c.1995-98).  I'm talking about why there are most likely fewer copies of MC in existence than any other Turbochip.

Yeah, but none of that is unique to Magical Chase.

I believe that there may be as few copies of Magical Chase in existence as any TurboChip, but I've still seen it around as often as other games and for a long time, much more than games like Darkwing Duck. Plus I've yet to find games like Darkwing Duck, Ghost Manor and Hero Tonma, in the wild, but I did find Magical Chase bitd. There may even be fewer copies of MC than any other TurboChip game, but it can't be a big difference, unless only a few hundred were made and for some reason they're always for sale.


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What makes you think it is a third party release?
OK, it was a no-name Quest game released by TTI.  It's still the second-to-last Turbochip, it's not Bonk 3, and there's the bulldozed stock report.  Whether or not you believe it, these are the only things we have to go on aside from personal accounts of how many times each of us have happened to see individual games.  If anyone can present a plausible theory for why Darkwing Duck or Hero Tonma are rarer, I'm all ears.

I only skimmed the posts for a while, but I didn't see anything in that story claiming that they singled out Magical Chase for destruction.

I don't doubt that many people are sitting on copies of Magical Chase though, like TZD did. Many "investment" minded people were hoarding games like MC back when it was only hard to find, but hadn't skyrocketed artificially.


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I was always under the impression that Steve got his hands on everything. There was no bulldozing specifically because of him (TZD).
It seems unlikely that a startup company could afford all of TTI's unused stock.  See the link above.

BTW, is Steve's record store still around?  I thought that went under too.

Does it seem likely that once they gave up on trying to sell the stock at the prices the few takers could only afford to buy so much of, that instead of calling them up and saying "just take the rest", they instead spent money on destroying everything? If they were looking to lose money, why not just destroy everything in the first place?


Making theories about why Magical Chase could technically be the rarest of all doesn't prove anything unfortunately. If we could magically find out how many copies of any game currently exist and it turned out that MC was way lower than the rest, then these kinds of theories would offer possible explanations. But we don't even know how rare any game really is. All that we do know is that there are a lot of people with an interest in keeping MC inflated and are actively working towards feeding every aspect of the hype. At this point, with the game being held hostage by buttery 133t collectors, it's the same difference.
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Re: Magical Chase Waiting List
« Reply #129 on: January 27, 2012, 11:48:03 AM »
If you can get one of the Sapphires for a decent price, say, $35, go for it. They are nearly indistinguishable from the real deal.

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« Reply #130 on: January 27, 2012, 11:48:53 AM »
Yeah Happy Conosle Gamer said something to me the other day about TZD being "not-Canada friendly." (He's up in Vancouver.) I never knew. But yeah, you make complete sense.
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« Reply #131 on: January 27, 2012, 11:50:32 AM »
I think the guy still custom makes the SFZ. SOmething on his website about "sold out, but please inquire" I don't think he'd take a reasonable price though. I'd just want it for all the pretty paper packaging bits anyway.
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« Reply #132 on: January 27, 2012, 01:57:40 PM »
1600 copies of Magical Chase were destroyed on bulldozer day. TZD got 100 copies plus whatever was out there retail.
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« Reply #133 on: January 27, 2012, 02:02:04 PM »
 only 500 copies of dynastic hero were made, but apparently (and this all from memory) TZD had every single copy. Now here's what's interesting ..... m&m3, godzilla, bonk3 cd, super air zonk .... also only 500 ... meaning dynastic is no more or less rare than any of those. please post if you have additional info to add or corrections.
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« Reply #134 on: January 27, 2012, 02:04:00 PM »
Dungeon explorer 2 was two print runs of 500 each. Beyond shadowgate, terraforming and cotton around 250 each plus whatever was out on retail. The rest was destoryed.
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