Magical Chase Waiting List

[nectarsis]

Magical chase is an elusive game whether you wanted it years back or today.

If you are fortunate enough to procure M.C the game it shouldn't matter the price but the satisfaction of finally scoring it for the collection.

MC wasn't that hard to find bitd.  Every store here that carried turbo had it on the shelf.

That last statement is just one of the BIG reasons why this mediocre game has jumped to retarded levels $ wise so quickly/recently.  I still stand behind the fact that if MC was a dirt common game, it would rarely get mentioned (DEF no top tier TG/PCE shooter).

[exile]

Zeta

Where did you live in the 90's? I never saw M.C in NYC (I did see bonk 3 and D.W.D) M.C was one of those games that I didn't know existed until TZD when I started buying games.



P.s. Your right D.W.D does suck

[exile]

No arguments from me Nectarsis, That game isn't all that. I'm not even trying to get every game on the Turbo, but I'm a huge shmup fan, and would like it fot that reason. I doubt I'd ever pay those astronomical Ebay prices to score the copy. Sadly, there are plenty of people who would.

[SignOfZeta]

I lived in Midland Michigan, which was not exactly a mecha for gaming at the time. The reason why you didn't see MC at your local EB is probably because someone bought it. At most stores that never happened and they left the store via UPS back to the main warehouse.

[Black Tiger]

Zeta

Where did you live in the 90's? I never saw M.C in NYC (I did see bonk 3 and D.W.D) M.C was one of those games that I didn't know existed until TZD when I started buying games.

I guess you didn't read EGM then.

If Magical Chase was sold at a store near the Alaskan Panhandle, then it was available everywhere Turbo games were sold.


What I'd like to know is, all the people who are just dying to get a hold of Turbo Magical Chase, but won't settle for any of the viable alternatives:

-What exactly will you do with it once your dream comes true? I can't imagine that playing it can be at the top of the list, if the PC Engine version is out of the question.

[exile]

I must have missed the EGM that covered the game. Truthfully I was so heavy into the Genesis and NES I probably didn't have sense back then to scoop up a duo and its final batch of games. In New York its tough to score moderate to limited release games. Back in the days, we didn't have big box stores. No Toys R Us,Target, Walmarts etc. probably why I never saw certain games on the shelf when they were new. Once Funcoland hit the scene, I was able to find games that I thought never released. Its also interesting how a game like Suikoden 2 for the PS was scarce in the city, but when I traveled South to Virginia I was able to cop a used copy for 14.99 months after its release.

[esteban]

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

[Gogan]

The more ppl talk about this stupid game, the higher the perceived value is to sellers, thus driving up the price even more.

If you want it, buy it, if not, stfu.

f*ck magical chase, really sick of hearing bout this.

[Jibbajaba]

Playing it on a flash card is as close as I'll ever probably get to owning MC.  I'm not going for a complete collection like so many of you are.  I just like to play games, so I am just trying to collect the good ones, both TG16 and PCE.  There are way too many games that are a lot better that cost a lot less than the PCE version of MC.  For games where the price to fun ratio is too high, well that's what I have the flash cart for.

Chris

[geddon_jt]

I thought I would chime in and just give some comments, unrelated to the "value/rarity" argument and discussion...

for me, there are some things about Magical Chase that make it quite unique in the Turbo library and fun to own. This is just my take for what it's worth, many of you might think these are ridiculous but so be it.

1. This is a late release third party title made by Quest. Quest went on to make the Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre series, which I am quite fond of. Its quite cool to see that by 1993 TTI was allowing the developers to put the actual logo on the front of the box. I'm not sure that any other Quest game in the US for any system has their name right on the front of the box.

2. There are somewhat major changes to the graphics between the US and Japanese versions of Magical Chase. For example, stage 1 has a kind of brick/mossy look to the bottom part of the screen, versus a cartoony tetris-like look in the Japanesve version. I seem to recall other differences, such as the item shop, but it has been a little while since I've played it. Also both versions of the game generally has some very impressive graphics for the console. For example, even the stage 1 miniboss has a very cool spinning animation effect reminiscent of the SNES mode 7. It begs the question why these changes were made to a very late gen release on a dying console. I like to think its because perhaps someone at TTI saw this as an opportunity to really show off the system technologically as one that can stand toe to toe and even exceed many SNES / Genesis titles of the day in the sound and graphics department.

3. The last days of the Turbo suffered from major identity crisis problems. TTI couldn't decide what they wanted. We had tons of pretty crappy Amiga ports, FMV games, weird US developed titles, and then the gold nugget sprite based titles from Japan. The good Japanese game ports were few and far between by 1993 and we all know that these are the games that hold up the best today. MC falls into that category (unlike a game like Darkwing Duck, which some people have compared MC to on the rarity side of things). MC got the royal treatment in this regard.

The fact that not everyone has the means to own the game is absolutely unfortunate. However, the game does have some unique aspects and merit besides the collectability aspect. That's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.

[nectarsis]

That's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.

The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.

[geddon_jt]

That's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.

The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.

I understand, but I have heard the argument made that it doesn't make sense that those games don't sell for the same money as MC given the similar print runs/release date etc. My point was there are more relevant factors than just the production quantity alone.

[Black Tiger]

That's part of the reason why the frequent comparisons to games like Order of the Griffon and Darkwing Duck aren't really spot on... just my opinion.

The comparisons to Darkwing, and Order are merely for similar print run totals, nothing more.

I understand, but I have heard the argument made that it doesn't make sense that those games don't sell for the same money as MC given the similar print runs/release date etc. My point was there are more relevant factors than just the production quantity alone.

How about the fact that OotG is exclusive to North America, while Magical Chase and Dynastic Hero are plentiful in Japan and always available? Plus Dynastic Hero is available in English on Virtual Console and Magical Chase is just another shooter on on a console with an abundance of them. RPGs tend to demand a higher price, especially rare English language ones for niche platforms (look at common Turbo games like Dragon Slayer, Dungeon Explorer II, Ys I & II, Ys III, Exile WP, etc).

There are somewhat major changes to the graphics between the US and Japanese versions of Magical Chase. For example, stage 1 has a kind of brick/mossy look to the bottom part of the screen, versus a cartoony tetris-like look in the Japanesve version. I seem to recall other differences, such as the item shop, but it has been a little while since I've played it. Also both versions of the game generally has some very impressive graphics for the console. For example, even the stage 1 miniboss has a very cool spinning animation effect reminiscent of the SNES mode 7. It begs the question why these changes were made to a very late gen release on a dying console. I like to think its because perhaps someone at TTI saw this as an opportunity to really show off the system technologically as one that can stand toe to toe and even exceed many SNES / Genesis titles of the day in the sound and graphics department.

You must be thinking of the 3rd stage main boss with fake "mode 7". Both it and the first stage mini boss (which doesn't do any kind of mode 7) are the same in both versions.

I really doubt that TTi made any of the graphical updates to the game. I'm guessing that Quest had alternate versions of aspects that didn't make it into the PCE version, so they handed their most finalized version over to TTi. A good sign of this is the hidden music track that isn't used in the game, but it shows up on the tutorial of Magical Chase GB. Now there's a version that should sell for much more than the TG-16 game.

Although Magical Chase is a cool game that does several things that Turbo-haters like to say are "impossible" with the hardware, Mode 7-like stuff is in many Turbo and PCE games. That one boss's scaling effect actually couldn't be done like that with Mode 7 either.

[BlackandBlue]

I am willing to sell my kidney and possibly a lung for this game!  I need my liver though, so don't ask (I'm looking at you Sparky). 

[alexsduo]

Exile: thanks for an honest post, I like your attitude.  But, I am not talking about someone who is no longer in the community.  They would clearly post on ebay or craigslist to sell.  However, there are certainly people who no longer want the game, beat it, would rather have the money, or a ton of other games or etc.  Or just really love PCFX or other gamers, and would want someone to carry on their copy for a price.  The problem is that the "going rate" on this forum is like $300 tops loose, and maybe double that on ebay. So there is a large discrepancy between what turbo collectors think of value compared to some idiot who heard it was rare and wanted to spend a lot of money...

Mathias: I feel like it for life too, I wouldn't want to part with them...

Vestcoat: I feel you, but I would take a PC engine copy, as I like the PC engine as well. 

I would be interested in both PCE and TG16 releases, as I just like collecting...

Zeta:  I would argue that MC is valuable, ableit it very overpriced.  Even if leet gamers don't think it is worth more than 50, there are total nubes who would pay serious money, hence making it valuable.  Just like a fur coat is valuable, but I wouldn't pay what it was "worth" as I don't care about it.  I have darkwing duck and have played it once, and then tried to snap it in half... I may try it again in several years...

Necromancer:  another post about my penis and my ejaculations? 

It was about 1 am, and I could not figure it out, as I consider it Dungeons and Dragons game, so I was not sure what he meant. 

You accuse me of being part of the problem, but you really don't explain how or why.  I already agreed that I was wrong for posting so much about MC.  You seem to know me well, although you have never met me, nor spoken with me directly. I am proposing an idea that in theory would take ebay out of the mix completely, for rarer stuff, although it probably would not work. 

Even if I was to try to "flip" MC to get paid, how would that work exactly?  My time (as well as everyone else's) is certainly worth money, and considering the amount of posts I put on the net, when I do get the game, it will have cost me well more than the asking price, and then to make a couple hundred online, is certainly not worth it.  And it doesn't come up that often on auction sites, you guys would be able to connect me very quickly with my fleebay name, and I would be disrespected and shunned more so than now....

My brother and I shared a turbo grafx when it came out, we got games every once in a while from babbages.
I truly loved the system, the games, and colors, the black sleekness of the system, and the tiny cards.  We kinda stopped playing it, and I played a couple times in high school.  And then I went away to school, bought a dreamcast, played a bit, and during that time I remembered how much fun the TG was.  And I have gotten back into collecting obviously, hence the interest in completing my collection. 

Necromancer  You are certainly the most elite entity on this forum, your almost 8000 posts are filled with love, respect and visions of masturbation. 

Anyone can be condescending and rude, on the internet, in fact it is very easy. It is a lot harder to be nice and patient.

at least I don't have a picture of my face with mc in the background, sorry RV...

I would love to hear more about where the obsession/normalcy of collecting begins and ends.  Is there a difference in buying a diamond ring for your girl, or wanting a Toyota Supra, or insert x here.  Presumably, some of you are married, bought your girl a diamond ring, and African kids arms were cut off or people were killed and etc... Or how about the new condo or house you are looking to buy, and whatever other stupid material possessions.  I am not saying I am above that either... I was trying to get a list of interested parties, in case someone leet gamer wants to sell a copy for $X...

I never saw the Chase in stores, although I probably wasn't looking, and had not heard of it, so I had no reason to look.

this post is way too long and off topic, probably, sorry ladies and gents.